We all need someone who can fact check, as the song goes.
― Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 13:23 (two years ago) link
Anyway, I definitely enjoyed reading what he wrote, just nitpicking as per thread title like mark said.
― Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 13:27 (two years ago) link
Really like the sequence when the Velvets are getting a tarot card reading, John notices the camera is on and laughs loudly at a joke Sterling makes, then ignores the camera along with the rest of the Velvets except for International Velvet who is hamming it up, whilst Amy Taubin comments on the unhealthy atmosphere at the Factory for the womenfolk.
― Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 14:41 (two years ago) link
Which led me to https://www.artforum.com/print/202108/amy-taubin-speaks-with-todd-haynes-about-the-velvet-underground-86709
That Godard quote is pretty well-known, he didn't just pick it up browsing an old issue of Cahiers du Cinéma.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 25 November 2021 15:24 (two years ago) link
Lack of proofing suggested by using Gesamtkunstwerk twice? I mean it may be the right term both times but it clangs awkwardly the second (well actually the first more than the second, but you know what I mean).
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 25 November 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link
Thanks for sharing that Artforum piece.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 25 November 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link
Sure.This thing is structured so there is almost an hour of buildup. The classic original foursome (Angus is only mentioned as a denizen of 56 Ludlow Street) and sound clicks into place at the 50 minute mark. Then forty more minutes with John and Andy and Jonas and other avant-garde footage. Doug arrives with a half hour to go. The previous style of footage is almost all gone except for Lou's Screen Test, otherwise it is mostly generic Sixties NYC and Hippie footage along with some castoff Monty Python animation. The third album, lost album and Loaded along with with Lou and Sterl's departures (did they get the order right?) are dispensed with within fifteen minutes. The rest is noise drone post-mortem with Danny Fields etc.
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:29 (two years ago) link
I guess it is kind of nice that it end with Andy and Lou and then the final version of "Heroin" at Le Bataclan '72 iirc.
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:34 (two years ago) link
And then ATP over the credits.
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link
Maybe a future extended director's cut will mention Willie Alexander, Walter Powell and the ski lodge but I doubt it.
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:37 (two years ago) link
No Ian Paice no credibility.
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link
Lol
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link
Apparently, he can’t remember it.
― Mark G, Friday, 26 November 2021 00:07 (two years ago) link
Ian Paice?
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 00:42 (two years ago) link
On the Squeeze album with Doug Yule in the 70s
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 26 November 2021 01:37 (two years ago) link
Right. He can’t remember playing on it?
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 01:58 (two years ago) link
ohhh sorry thought you were wondering why him
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 26 November 2021 02:42 (two years ago) link
XPost correct
― Mark G, Friday, 26 November 2021 08:47 (two years ago) link
he remembers perfectly well it's just more yule erasure by the metal establishment
― mark s, Friday, 26 November 2021 11:34 (two years ago) link
my thought on greil's grasp of avant-garde film is that i don't think he's a scholar (not the way amy taubin is a scholar for example) but he def has a feel for the territory: perhaps from thinking abt (of course) debord (soc-spec, howlings, in girum…) and he's written abt bruce conner back in the day (i know bcz i ran a nice piece by him in the wife when i had that power) so
― mark s, Friday, 26 November 2021 11:37 (two years ago) link
the WIRE
borat voice: my WIRE
Autocorrect is a scourge
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 26 November 2021 11:38 (two years ago) link
it is but this was absolutely fat fingers
― mark s, Friday, 26 November 2021 11:54 (two years ago) link
It’s my wire and it’s my lyre
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 11:56 (two years ago) link
“Take my Wire, please!”
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 26 November 2021 11:58 (two years ago) link
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 12:29 (two years ago) link
Before the scourge:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDm_cptMRNI
I used to think Gerard was a joke with all that whip dancing, but I’m starting to warm up to him.
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 13:58 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfUkipNBq70
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 14:32 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGrMhyqcI08
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link
I’ve decided I like Mary Woronov much better when she is talking about her own would-be boyfriends and dishing on the other Factory denizens rather than just shooting hippie Phfishes in barrels.
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link
Swimming Underground: My Time at Andy Warhol’s Factory (the subtitle sometimes changes) is really well-written, for one thing.
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link
Never knew about this guy: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/18/arts/allen-midgette-an-ersatz-andy-warhol-dies-at-82.html?referringSource=articleShare
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 23:00 (two years ago) link
The sore thumb in the Greil piece is the Godard quote, which he really doesn't need: I've done it too, it's a crutch, it's overselling, it's a little touch of (I guess unwitting)self-parody (has he written so much about Elvis that he's a little touch off Elvis), it's too late to stage an intervention, but it's also the dues we pay to read his music, man, so be it.
― dow, Saturday, 27 November 2021 03:04 (two years ago) link
But also, far as I know, it's the most vivid mult-d film review-as-tenacious-tracking shot since this one:https://www.filmcomment.com/article/the-power-the-gory-martin-scorsese-taxi-driver-manny-farber-patricia-patterson/
― dow, Saturday, 27 November 2021 03:15 (two years ago) link
it's a crutch a symptom of somehow feeling like you need one, no matter how good the rest of it is. Also a symptom of knowing you might be wrong about how good the rest of it is, aieeeeeeeee
― dow, Saturday, 27 November 2021 03:18 (two years ago) link
also scraping the absolutism off godard is like stripping an insect of its exoskeleton: highly likely it stops doing the work you're requiring of it!
(which come to think of it may actually be GM's underlying half-intuited concept and he ran out of time to hit it more exactly and fashion it less thirstily)
(seeing as there's a haynes-ray connection -- with far from heaven -- that he doesn't make out loud)
― mark s, Saturday, 27 November 2021 12:08 (two years ago) link
"just like nicholas ray said" <-- right there dude
― mark s, Saturday, 27 November 2021 12:09 (two years ago) link
Couldn’t hit it sideways
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 November 2021 15:02 (two years ago) link
Always though of Far from Heaven as more Sirk, but yes, Ray fits as well.
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 November 2021 15:03 (two years ago) link
lol oops yes
― mark s, Saturday, 27 November 2021 15:14 (two years ago) link
split slightly and caused little rhythmic sirks of red to pulsate gently in the morning sun <-- right there dude
― mark s, Saturday, 27 November 2021 15:16 (two years ago) link
Doug Yule / Doug Sirk, what's the difference?
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 November 2021 15:18 (two years ago) link
David O. Selznick/Steve Sesnick etc
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 November 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link
ppl coming round to my way of critical thinking at last
― mark s, Saturday, 27 November 2021 15:25 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkiIwV6m0zk
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 November 2021 15:35 (two years ago) link
Another VU:Michael J. Kramer@kramermjThe new Todd Haynes doc tries to make the Velvet Underground into the Beatles, while the new Fab Four doc Get Back makes the Beatles into a durational Warholian VU experience.8:15 AM · Nov 27, 2021· Which was my impression of 1970 Lindsay Hogg making-of Let It Be doc, though I preferred Warhol or whoever made any Warhol-branded film up to that point (did indicate that Yoko was *not* the real prob).
― dow, Saturday, 27 November 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link
this doesnt seem a very accurate review
― mark s, Saturday, 27 November 2021 18:45 (two years ago) link