― WillSommer, Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― little ivan, Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)
Please kill me.
Oh well. Read it anyway. It's amazing. And Our Band Could Be Your Life. If you're interested in criticism, check out Psychotic Reactions and Carbeurator Dung or anything by Lester Bangs or one or two Greil Marcus books (The Basement Tapes). I'd stay away from Camden Joy, contrary to popular opinion.
I need something that doesn't take too long to get into
But you're going to college, man! Just buy Adorno's Essays on Music and accept that the next 4+ years of your life are going to be like that mwahahaha...
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)
I also enjoyed Last Night a DJ Saved My Life and there's the ever-classic Generation Ecstasy.
― deej., Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Elisa (Elisa), Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― don, Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― don, Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― deej., Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:45 (twenty-one years ago)
I had never heard of Tate until I saw him speak not long ago. He is a BAD. ASS. Does he still write for The Voice? I feel like I never see him in there. Does he have a blog?
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:56 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm mostly interested in reading a book of his since his prose is fairly magnificent.
― deej., Thursday, 17 March 2005 06:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 17 March 2005 07:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― wtin, Thursday, 17 March 2005 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― bg, Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)
If you want a cracking funny read on hip-hop, though, pick up The Rough Guide to Hip-Hop by Peter Shapiro, which has just been updated and enlarged (it was a pocket-size the first time, now it's 8 x 10). Best line goes to the Bad Boy Records writeup, when he notes that Puff Daddy, having been responsible for 40% of all 1997's number ones, moved to the Hamptons "so he could live by the sea, just like his magic dragon namesake."
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― John Fredland (jfredland), Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)
Same here! (Of course there's also the Led Zep bio.)
― nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― bg, Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 17 March 2005 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)
Next week on "The O.C.": Seth and Ryan get into a fatal disagreement over "James Taylor: Marked For Death," while Summer meets a new hottie who shares her disgust of Nick Hornby.
― Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― don, Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)
Dino by Nick Tosches (about Dean Martin; as deep as Catch a Fire by Timothy White, as entertaining as that Motley Crue book)
Backbeat: Earl Palmer's Story, by Tony Scherman (oral history/autobiography of the New Orleans drummer; had me at "Louis Armstrong was a pimp"...)
We Got the Neutron Bomb: The Untold Story of L.A. Punk by Marc Spitz and Brendan Mullen (better than Please Kill Me, kind of like L.A. punk itself)
― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)
I was torturing this guy in the garage of my mom's house in this nice suburban neighborhood with my whole family inside eating Easter dinner... and I'd got this guy tied up in the rafter with a rope around his legs and I'm beating him with a two-by-four. I said, "Hang on a minute," and put the two-by-four down and walked into the house and kissed my aunt and said like, "Oh hi, how you doing?" I grabbed a deviled egg, told them I'd be back in a minute, and I went back out, grabbed the two-by-four, and kept workin' on the guy. I finally had to get out of Vicious Circle 'cause of the violence. There were constant stabbings and beatings and people cruising by my house at night, shooting up the neighborhood....
I did something pretty bad to somebody and they retaliated with guns. It was a big deal, I had to split to Alaska for a while, they cut the lines on my car, blew up my car... fuck...I don't wanna say who they were, but they weren't punks... boy, they were pissed off.
― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)
i went on holiday with the Deborah Curtis book and the Nick Drake biography once. happy times, let me tell you.
― Lee F# (fsharp), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)
if you ever find dave rimmer's "once upon a time in the east", abt berlin east and west b4 the fall of the wall, i utterly UTTERLY recommend it: tho it's only somewhat abt music - unlike his earlier (and also good) "like punk never happened"
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Richard C (avoid80), Thursday, 17 March 2005 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)
Joe Carducci's Rock and the Pop Narcotic is being reissued sometime this year.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 17 March 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 17 March 2005 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― don, Friday, 18 March 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Quit glaring at Ian Riese-Moraine! He's mentally fraught! (Eastern Mantra), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― JoB (JoB), Friday, 18 March 2005 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 18 March 2005 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― don, Friday, 18 March 2005 06:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ashandeej, Friday, 18 March 2005 06:41 (twenty-one years ago)
Electronic and Experimental Music by Thom Holmesalso; Wireless Imagination (d kahn / g whitehead)Paul Griffiths - A Concise History of Avant-Garde MusicPaul Griffiths - Modern Music And BeyondCurtis RoadsWilliam Duckworth : Talking MusicCage: Silence / A Year From MondayCage / Feldman: ConversationsJames Tenney : Meta / HodosKarlheinz Stockhausen - Stockhausen on Music (Compiled by R Maconie)Sound By Artists (ed. Dan Lander)Chris Cutler - File Under PopularAttali - NoiseRussolo - The Art of Noises (get a hold of a copy any way you can)Trevor Wishart - On Sonic ArtDouglas Kahn - Noise Water Meat
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 18 March 2005 07:13 (twenty-one years ago)
i think the attali book is lousy at book length—it's a good short polemic idea bulked out to a contradictory nonsense schema—and wireless imagination is patchy (which is a pity, cz it's a great idea for an essay collection)
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 18 March 2005 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 18 March 2005 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 18 March 2005 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)
The Elvis Guralnick books - again, you don't have to care about the subject matter to enjoy them (personally, I was so-so on Elvis before readin' 'em, am now an unabashed fan), and the second one is one hell of a car wreck: the descent starts like twenty pages into it, and by the end of the book you can't even feel sorry for the guy anymore, you just wonder why he hasn't kicked the bucket already.
"Where Did Our Love Go?" by Nelson George has some nice anecdotes, and is probably the best book on Motown around, tho to be frank I didn't learn all that much from it.
"The Heart Of Rock & Soul" seconded, and throw in the "New Book Of Rock Lists" too, if only for the sheer joy of reading the sentence "Tragedy The Intelligent Hoodlum Lists..." over and over again (not that book of rock jokes, tho, that was awful.) And also "Fortunate Son: The Best Of Dave Marsh", great stuff on Elvis, Muddy Waters, latino rock, etc.
I remember reading Maryiln Manson's "The Long Hard Road Out Of Hell" in my early teens and being surprised by how good it was (I'd always loathed the guy's music.) Dunno if it holds up.
"Sweet Soul Music", hell yeah.
I've read the entirety of Christgau's consumer guide online, and there's some great, great stuff there. So the books are recommended, too.
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 18 March 2005 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― shookout (shookout), Friday, 18 March 2005 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)
yay I've been wanting to read that one for a while!
adding to my prev post here leroi jones 'blues people' which I just finished this morning: most gd bks on music accept that they aren't just abt notes and chords.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)
You mean it's not long enough? I loved the book. Should re-read it...
I also loved the Lexicon Devil (bio on Darby Crash) though it's certainly not essential...
― nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jason Toon, Friday, 18 March 2005 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)
the ONLY thing wrong with JMC's line is that he somewhat slightly seems to accept the assumption that the social dimension—the "dance"—isn’t also always part of all music in the West (though he does this in the context of getting ppl to see/hear/look for the fuller sense of the meaning of music): taking his insights abt Africa (Ghana, to be more accurate) and applying them everywhere else is revelatory
Most of it is a charming telling of him learning African drumming in Ghana
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 18 March 2005 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)
And I hope someone someday undertakes a lengthy Sabbath bio.
― 57 7th (calstars), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)
new-ish Poison Girls history is excellent:
https://pmpress.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1829
― Serfin' USA (sleeve), Tuesday, 21 April 2026 17:31 (one month ago)
new gary stewart bio is terrific, though occasionally it's a harrowing read. things get pretty dark!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 21 April 2026 17:34 (one month ago)
I'm also enjoying "The Story Of Crass", also published by PM Press
― Serfin' USA (sleeve), Tuesday, 21 April 2026 17:35 (one month ago)
Can't vouch yet, but I like Erin and her writing:
Hear “American Girl” or “Born in the U.S.A.” and, like it or not, chances are you begin to hum along. The soundtrack of grocery stores, pool halls, bowling alleys, flea markets, chain restaurants, drug stores, and political rallies—heartland rock, while beloved by some and derided by others, is inescapable even today. As rollicking as the music it describes, acclaimed music critic Erin Osmon’s Won’t Back Down tells the story of the origins, chart-topping development, and tangled legacy of heartland rock, the music that ruled the airwaves of the 1980s and remains instantly recognizable to millions.Spinning an entertaining and eye-opening account, Osmon delves into the complicated afterlife of heartland rock’s classic albums and songs, including Bruce Springsteen’s “Born to Run,” Bob Seger’s “Against the Wind,” John Mellencamp’s “Small Town,” and Tom Petty’s “I Won’t Back Down.” She demonstrates the centrality of often-overlooked women like Melissa Etheridge, Bonnie Raitt, and Lucinda Williams—explaining how some of the most popular music of the time was made beyond its white-male stereotypes. She traces the genre’s connections to country and Americana, and reveals how legendary figures like Prince were inspired by and expanded heartland rock. And she shows how its success revitalized the careers of figures like Bob Dylan and Neil Young. Through it all, she explores the ’80s cultural developments that fostered the genre—such as the rise of MTV and the switch to CDs—and argues that the music played a vital role in opposition to ’80s conservatism and in support of LGBTQ rights, labor issues, and the environmental movement.A fair-minded critic with an ear for a great behind-the-scenes story, Osmon makes clear that at its best, heartland rock connected with millions of overlooked people longing to be heard.
Spinning an entertaining and eye-opening account, Osmon delves into the complicated afterlife of heartland rock’s classic albums and songs, including Bruce Springsteen’s “Born to Run,” Bob Seger’s “Against the Wind,” John Mellencamp’s “Small Town,” and Tom Petty’s “I Won’t Back Down.” She demonstrates the centrality of often-overlooked women like Melissa Etheridge, Bonnie Raitt, and Lucinda Williams—explaining how some of the most popular music of the time was made beyond its white-male stereotypes. She traces the genre’s connections to country and Americana, and reveals how legendary figures like Prince were inspired by and expanded heartland rock. And she shows how its success revitalized the careers of figures like Bob Dylan and Neil Young. Through it all, she explores the ’80s cultural developments that fostered the genre—such as the rise of MTV and the switch to CDs—and argues that the music played a vital role in opposition to ’80s conservatism and in support of LGBTQ rights, labor issues, and the environmental movement.
A fair-minded critic with an ear for a great behind-the-scenes story, Osmon makes clear that at its best, heartland rock connected with millions of overlooked people longing to be heard.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 April 2026 14:34 (one month ago)
Can anybody recommend a good book about the Doors?
I read No One Here Gets Out Alive in 6th grade. Wondering if there's any more recent and more interesting books on the Doors as a whole and their context(s) and not just all the stories about the lizard king and all that.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 28 April 2026 14:49 (one month ago)
― Galactic Poetaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 April 2026 14:56 (one month ago)
(xpost) Of all people, Greil Marcus wrote a Doors book:
https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/greil-marcus/the-doors/9781610392365/?lens=publicaffairs
I remember being confounded when I'd heard it was coming out--seemed like such a mismatch. I read it, but don't really remember anything.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 28 April 2026 22:31 (one month ago)
It's been a very long time since I read it, but I thought John Densmore's book was pretty great.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 29 April 2026 00:15 (one month ago)
Greil’s book on The Doors is good! More straightforward writing-wise than his usual, full of personal anecdotes about seeing the band live.
― mom jeans VS yacht rock (m coleman), Wednesday, 29 April 2026 00:52 (one month ago)
thanks all.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 29 April 2026 05:06 (one month ago)
More straightforward writing-wise than his usual
Agree, because Marcus isn't quite a huge Doors fan, he can be more casual than when he's trying to tie everything in to "America" or some other larger abstraction. He talks a lot about the revelations of their bootleg concert recordings - there's a funny description of a bewildered version of "The End" where the audience is yelling the lyrics back at them before they've been delivered.
I'm reading a book about post-rock called Fearless just because I spotted it on the library shelf. Sort of anecdotal rather than theoretical, but it seems to do a good job bringing together acts that I know and ones I've barely heard of, and probably the most expansive writing you'll find on a group like Codeine (at least on paper).
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 30 April 2026 14:41 (one month ago)
I've had to turn off every John Densmore interview I've ever tried to listen to, just can't take him talking about what a cool jazz cat he is for some reason.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 30 April 2026 14:47 (one month ago)
lol
― Galactic Poetaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 April 2026 14:48 (one month ago)
The advance hit my bank account this morning, so I might as well announce this here: I'll be putting out a 25th anniversary Revised & Expanded Edition of my first book, New York Is Now!: The New Wave Of Free Jazz, with Zer0 Books this fall. I'm working on the edits and new material now.
― wipes chooser (unperson), Friday, 1 May 2026 14:52 (one month ago)
Open source book on music from San Antonio
https://archive.org/details/the-history-of-music-in-san-antonio
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 10 May 2026 03:57 (three weeks ago)
Congrats, unperson!
― completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 12 May 2026 14:49 (three weeks ago)
yes congrats and also ty curmudg
― Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Tuesday, 12 May 2026 14:53 (three weeks ago)
congrats unperson!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 May 2026 14:56 (three weeks ago)
Cool! Congrats unperson, looking forward to it!
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 00:58 (three weeks ago)
Yes, great news regarding new edition and best of luck with getting it out and getting attention for it.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 May 2026 04:14 (three weeks ago)
Revisiting it has been quite an experience. I mostly remembered all the things I regretted or was unhappy with, but on re-reading it, it's pretty decent. I'm deleting one chapter entirely, and editing a few others (I had a tendency to write page-long paragraphs back then, and am splitting those into three or four shorter paragraphs in the new version), and adding postscript material on what some of the featured artists have been doing in the last 25 years. Plus eulogizing those who've died (David Ware, Charles Gayle, Roy Campbell), of course.
― wipes chooser (unperson), Wednesday, 13 May 2026 04:41 (three weeks ago)
Forthcoming book:
Gilles Peterson & Stuart BakerNow is the Time!: 21st Century British Jazz
https://www.resident-music.com/product/peterson-gilles-stuart-baker-now-is-the-time-21st-century-british-jazz
due: 19th October 2026
publisher: Soul Jazz Records
― djmartian, Friday, 15 May 2026 10:07 (three weeks ago)
"Near complete." Hmmm, I doubt that, given how much of the wider UK jazz and improvised music community Peterson overlooks (too weird? too abstract? you're not in the club!). I thought Andre Marmot's oral history, Unapologetic Expression, did a good job of documenting this scene, but it only tells part of the story. My concern is this becomes the only story, leaving out anyone who doesn't fit the groovy and tasteful neo-fusion aesthetic being pushed by the music biz. Definitely space for a book on the awkward buggers who don't fit in...
― Composition 40b (Stew), Friday, 15 May 2026 10:27 (three weeks ago)
I'm absolutely loving "In the Dreamlife You Need a Rubber Soul,” an oral history of The Clean. It's amazing how many letters and photos the band and its circle saved.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 May 2026 12:58 (three weeks ago)
Ordered the mammoth new Velvets book that is coming out soon. What was the consensus on the big Lou book that came out not too long ago? I want Lou & Laurie stories.
― Cow_Art, Friday, 15 May 2026 18:49 (three weeks ago)
Man my Unterberger Wl/WH and Beatles sessions books are back in the US and I miss them. Great books. Dunno if I need an exhaustive Velvets bio at this point in my life but am so SO tempted.
― completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 15 May 2026 20:10 (three weeks ago)
Saw a FB post about the Velvets book today, first I'd heard of it. The one thing that gives me pause is how great the Todd Haynes film was--800 pages, and I'm not sure if it's doomed to fall short of that.
― clemenza, Friday, 15 May 2026 20:35 (three weeks ago)
I was checking out the uncut Tune In Vol 1 and there’s this incredible story where teenage John and Paul steal a bunch of blank hall passes and start selling them to their classmates. Harrison hears about the scheme and almost injures his hand reaching into some garbage incinerator to get more blank passes to sell. If this story isn’t in the “non-uncut” version it’s a tragedy
― brimstead, Friday, 15 May 2026 22:13 (three weeks ago)
new gary stewart bio is terrific, though occasionally it's a harrowing read. things get pretty dark!― tylerw
― tylerw
― dow, Saturday, 16 May 2026 02:22 (three weeks ago)
Cheerz, unperson---was already thinking of buying that, will now wait for new edition!Speaking of jazz, was also thinking of Litweiler's The Freedom Principle, which I read in the early 80s, soon after it first came out (there may have been later editions). You can think of a lot of trends and situations that he doesn't mention, because they haven't happened yet, but he describes how artists and approaches of different eras reach or aim for freedom, and then settle down, or just become---familiar. Jazz turns into jazz history.Like all jazzheadz, he's got his favorites and targets, but also is sometimes ready to be schooled, happy to have his mind boggled by Ornette's vision of disco, and Cecil Taylor's singing like Screaming Jay Hawkins (as he hears it, and I know what he means).He led me to a lot of excellent music---mind you, what he nevertheless goes on about re settling bugs the shit out of some readers, like this one:http://www.jazzshelf.org/freeprinciple.html#:~:text=In%20The%20Freedom%20Principle%20%2D,liberation%20(be%20it%20an%20individual's
― dow, Saturday, 16 May 2026 16:50 (three weeks ago)
Truly Gifted Kids: A Book About A Band Called Prefab SproutNige TassellNew Modern13-08-26
https://bsky.app/profile/newmodernbooks.bsky.social/post/3mmt22bm5dk2a
― djmartian, Wednesday, 27 May 2026 08:59 (one week ago)
I'm reading the Cameron Crowe memoir, which I got as a gift. It's not bad, but it's constantly wobbling somewhere in the cusp of being a lot better. It's almost as if Crowe had just seen "Almost Famous" and was reminded of all his personal stories he put in there, them essentially repeats them here. As a lucky dude in the right place at the right time, he got access to all sorts of people, but he's also kind of a hack who doesn't have much to say about them. He's also kind of a cipher. At any given time any band seems to become his "favorite" band, but there's no weight to his endorsement. That's a good trait for an interviewer, but not for a critic, and while he's more of the former than the latter, his fanboy tendencies do him no favors, as cool as the access he got may have been. There's a wide gap between him and, say, Bangs, and whenever Bangs pops up in the book you're reminded of Crowe's inherent inoffensiveness and lack of edge/insight.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 June 2026 21:34 (four days ago)
Yeah, I have always thought that, despite having been married to an actual rock star, he had a really facile take on such people, none of the love/hate, good, bad and ugly insight that comes with real deep and potentially adversarial fandom or criticism.
― Dr. Winston O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 2 June 2026 21:54 (four days ago)
Relevant answer here if you can access it: https://greilmarcus.substack.com/p/ask-greil-may-10-2024
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 June 2026 21:57 (four days ago)
unperson, are they gonna have kindle version?
― EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 June 2026 21:58 (four days ago)
Relevant answer here if you can access it: https://greilmarcus.substack.com/p/ask-greil-may-10-2024🕸
― Dr. Winston O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 2 June 2026 22:08 (four days ago)
Now thinking AF is like if James Lipton made a film about actors.
― Dr. Winston O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 2 June 2026 22:10 (four days ago)
I assume so; it's the same publisher that did my 2022 book Ugly Beauty, and there was an ebook edition of that.
― wipes chooser (unperson), Tuesday, 2 June 2026 22:25 (four days ago)
Scans about right. Again and again in the book he'll come across a wary interview subject, burned by bad Rolling Stone coverage - Allman Brothers, Jimmy Page - and his pitch is always "I'm a fan, and I'm going to write a piece for the fans!" He doesn't show much self-awareness that between stuff like that and ingratiating himself to labels and publicists by writing press kits, he's essentially a shill, though the way he writes about this non-strategy he seems to think he's some clever master of band psychology or something. On the plus side, *because* he is considered a safe-space, he *is* able to get people like Allman, Bowie or Page on the record where others couldn't, and safe-space or not people like that and others still had interesting things to say.
That's the thing about interviewing people. If you have a good interview subject, that's 90% of it right there. The other 10% is providing good (or even adequate) prompts and staying out of the way. That's what makes someone like Rick Beato a good interviewer. He often talks to relatively inside-baseball folks with stories to tell, asks them pretty straight-forward questions, then just let's them talk. When he does land a pretty big get, his questions are run of the mill enough that their charisma and experience answering similar questions takes over and they know just what to say.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 June 2026 13:36 (three days ago)
I do like Almost Famous a lot, without thinking for a second it's accurate and not a little self-serving. "You are home" to punctuate the "Tiny Dancer" sequence is one of my favourite movie moments this century.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 3 June 2026 14:36 (three days ago)
I haven't seen the movie for ages, but I guess I don't dread seeing it again, either. If his book is at all accurate, there are a few scenes in there that are more or less direct from experience.
What a cliff that guy ran off, an impressive run from his teens til he hit a dramatic midlife crisis around age 50, when his output suddenly sucked punchline-bad, he got divorced from a literal rock star, his "Almost Famous" musical flopped, he had a kid with a girlfriend 25 years his junior ...
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 June 2026 16:37 (three days ago)
if you can stomach the overwhelming earnestness, Springsteen's autobiography is a pretty good listen/read. it reads like a human wrote it, which is seemingly of increasing importance
― dread_billy (boneskull), Wednesday, 3 June 2026 21:03 (three days ago)
Was thinking I had already posted on here about this, but not seeing it, so here's repost from Rolling Country:
Rosanne's autbio, Composed, takes you right through her life, from childhood w formidable parents, psychology w/o psychobabble---then her father astutely gets her a job w CBS Records in London, where she starts making her own connections---goes right though what was happening during the recording of each album, also a lot about the experience of performing live, medical stuff, also kid by kid, just whatever, w/o overcrowding. (Not a huge amount about her private life w Rodney, and it may not mention their coke years at all, come to think of it.) Says her current/long-time hub, John Leventhal, has encouraged her to write a follow-up, Decomposed, so maybe someday---
― dow, Wednesday, 3 June 2026 21:30 (three days ago)
What a cliff that guy ran off
I'll say. I actually had mixed feelings about his films in general. As Marcus and others suggested of his print work, there's a shallowness and eagerness to please in his film work. Say Anything is probably the only one I'd go back to, partly because his shortcomings play better with those characters in that context, but there's no denying he was on a roll in terms of professional success. Almost Famous isn't great either, but it's still one of his better films and it finally landed him an Oscar. I had zero knowledge of anything happening after that, so when I looked him up to see what was going on 15 or 20 years after the fact, I was taken aback. One horrendous misfire after another (casting Emma Stone as an Asian???) and most startling of all was the divorce and what indeed read like a terrible midlife crisis.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 3 June 2026 21:55 (three days ago)
Aloha is a truly deranged film. Not good at all, but a car crash worth watching. At one point a character refers to Facebook as a place that "helps teens meet and date". There's a Barbarella poster in a kid's room. Lots to ponder.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 4 June 2026 09:45 (two days ago)
You know what's really strange? I've never met anyone, ever, that actually read the book "Fast Times at Ridgemont High." And in fact, it seems to be totally out of print, going for hundreds of dollars on eBay and the like. Considering it's the basis for an iconic film and written by a name author, that's pretty odd. Here's a brief interview I found with a (non) explanation:
The first time Cameron Crowe based a movie on a true story was nearly 30 years ago, when he wrote a screenplay from his first book, Fast Times at Ridgemont High: A True Story. The Amy Heckerling-directed film became a sleeper hit and a cult classic. At 22, Crowe had spent a year as a senior at Clairemont High School in suburban San Diego, chronicling the experiences of his “classmates.” Typical of Crowe, the book played both funny and sweet. But if you want to read that book, be prepared to open your wallet: Fast Times has been out of print since the early ’80s, and copies can be found on eBay and other sites at prices ranging from $125 to $345. And Crowe tells THR he likes it that way:Why hasn’t Fast Times been republished?It’s the one thing that I still have the rights to, and I like that there’s one thing that’s not readily available. I like knowing that if you really want it, you can find it, but nobody’s pushing it in your face. I have been approached about republishing, but I haven’t done it. I like it too much as a kind of bootleg.Are you surprised about the prices?I like those prices.How do you feel about the book now?I love the book. It’s one of my favorite things that I’ve ever written. The book opens the door where all the stuff I learned as a journalist can be applied to a non-celebrity and it’s just as interesting. You can interview a kid sitting in his room, and it’s more interesting than Rod Stewart. It very much opened a door to being a screenwriter because it let you know that it was a level playing field, story-wise.
Why hasn’t Fast Times been republished?
It’s the one thing that I still have the rights to, and I like that there’s one thing that’s not readily available. I like knowing that if you really want it, you can find it, but nobody’s pushing it in your face. I have been approached about republishing, but I haven’t done it. I like it too much as a kind of bootleg.
Are you surprised about the prices?
I like those prices.
How do you feel about the book now?
I love the book. It’s one of my favorite things that I’ve ever written. The book opens the door where all the stuff I learned as a journalist can be applied to a non-celebrity and it’s just as interesting. You can interview a kid sitting in his room, and it’s more interesting than Rod Stewart. It very much opened a door to being a screenwriter because it let you know that it was a level playing field, story-wise.
My theory? The book is full of shit and/or totally fabricated, and he doesn't want to open himself up to that charge. I found this old AV Club piece on the book:
https://www.avclub.com/book-vs-film-fast-times-at-ridgemont-high-1798214433
One conspicuous bit from Tasha's take:
Crowe did something authentically brave and interesting and unique, and he had a chance to file a detailed report on an extraordinary experience that virtually no one else is likely to have. Instead, he gave us a clunky, choppy novel billed as "a true story," though it contains any number of things that are hard to take as fact.Without the intro, there'd be no reason to believe that Fast Times is based on real life instead of being pure clumsy fiction.
Without the intro, there'd be no reason to believe that Fast Times is based on real life instead of being pure clumsy fiction.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 June 2026 21:37 (two days ago)
I watched some of Almost famous to see Philip Seymour Hoffman as Lester Bangs. Was just like Wolfman Jack counselling Robbie Benson about zits in that ancient Clearasil commercial.
― dow, Thursday, 4 June 2026 22:12 (two days ago)
"I like that there’s one thing that’s not readily available"
"I love the book. It’s one of my favorite things that I’ve ever written."
I would believe this from Neil Young but otherwise it sounds like absolute horseshit
― Cow_Art, Thursday, 4 June 2026 22:13 (two days ago)
Lol dow at Wolfman Jack/Robbie Benson Clearasil commercial. Zits be not proud!
― Dr. Winston O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 June 2026 00:25 (yesterday)
One conspicuous bit from Tasha's take:Bonus points for Harlan Ellison reference.
― Dr. Winston O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 June 2026 00:30 (yesterday)