Ragga Ragga Ragga 2005!

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Anyone got a promo yet? Or a tracklist?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 March 2005 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Goodz on it?

VIC MACKEY (nordicskilla), Friday, 18 March 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Or Jamakabi?

VIC MACKEY (nordicskilla), Friday, 18 March 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Also is there any word on a Bubble Up Riddim CD?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 March 2005 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha no, but I think So Solid (or some of them) are on the new South Rakkas Crew riddim Bionic Ras.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 March 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

The Bionic Ras tracklist:

CAPELTON – Long Time
SIZZLA KALONGI – Spring Break
BOUNTY KILLER – Mad Love
VYBZ KARTEL F. MARLENE – Goodas
MR. EASY & KID FAREIGNA – It’s Your Body
FRANKIE PAUL – Those Girls
KID KURRUPT F. JAYMARIE – Look Out Weekend
MAD COBRA – Rain Check
GABRIEL – Lock Off Anthem
NINJA KID & BAJIE MAN – Adi O
MAKA DIAMOND – Money O
KID FAREIGNA – Good Good Good
BEENIE MAN – U Tight
DYNAMITE MC – ALL NIGHT PARTY
JD (SO SOLID CREW) – What U Want

KANANGA & ZAIRE – How Di Ting Go
BRICK & LACE – Tonight
MARLENE – See It Deh
TORNADO – Printa
JAH’ZAY & SANKE – Pony
BIG FISH – Pancakes
BIGGA BOSS – Bashment Girl
SOUTH RAKKAS CREW – Bionic Riddim

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 March 2005 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Who are Scare Dem Crew?

They have Ears on their mixtape.

VIC MACKEY (nordicskilla), Friday, 18 March 2005 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't these not come out til summer? I wasn't able to pick up a copy until July I think, but it had come out a bit earlier than that.

deej., Friday, 18 March 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Scare Dem Crew were Elephant Man, Harry Toddler and two other guys whose names escape me. I didn't know they still put out stuff though.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 March 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Greensleeves sez Ragga Ragga Ragga 2005!'s date is March 29th now. The Bionic Ras CD is set for late April according to the SRC website and apparently it is coming out on their OWN sublabel Riddim Riddin.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 March 2005 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Harry Toddler!

VIC MACKEY (nordicskilla), Friday, 18 March 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Well I'm crazy, Greensleeves website sez March 29.

xxp got to it first... alex have you heard the Bomb a Drop riddim? its bananas.

deej., Friday, 18 March 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.greensleeves.net/bio/biogbombadrop.html

listen to "On the Beach."

deej., Friday, 18 March 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Who the hell are Martina and Idona? (I must listen at home dee.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 March 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

"Let Dem War" is a great title.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 March 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I honestly have no idea who they are. If someone finds a full length mp3 though, let me have it. I've been salivating over these samples for 2 weeks now.

deej., Friday, 18 March 2005 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

grime scare dem = not ragga scare dem

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Saturday, 19 March 2005 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

April 19th, no tracklist yet though.

http://www.vprecords.com/onesheet.php?cat_number=VP2287.2

Also could grime artists stop taking dancehall artists names, please I keep getting excited everytime I see Baby Cham's name and then I realize it isn't actually that Baby Cham.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 20 March 2005 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracklist:

1-Macka Diamond/Mad Cobra Mih Nuh Dun
2-Nina Sky/Cham Turnin Me On
3-Delly Rank/Voicemail/Bogle We Di Time
4-Macka Diamond Mr Teki Back
5-Vybz Too Fucky Fucky
6-Beenie Man Ziggy Zung
7-Macka Diamond/Lexxus And Banz
8-Vybz Dutty Panty
9-Sizzla I'm Wit The Girls
10-Voicemail Do What You Feel Like
11-Vybz/Spragga Correction
12-Mad Cobra Switch
13-Beenie Man Three Laws
14-Capleton Free Up
15-Vybz School Bus
16-Beenie Man Dance to the Chaka
17-Bounty Killer Warlock Walk
18-Busy Signal Wuk Gal

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Excitement! I've hardly heard any of these I don't think. Sometimes falling behind pays off.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 26 March 2005 07:26 (twenty-one years ago)

perhaps not with this partic comp :(

ppl might still find it fabulous anyway, i dunno

(ha why not call it spraggot correction!)

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Saturday, 26 March 2005 07:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Tell me prima is the dancehall falloff still in full effect? Lacking access to 1xtra has made me realise how reliant i was on robbo ranx and seani b to keep with the program.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 26 March 2005 08:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Is "Dance to the Chaka" on the infamously goofy Chaka Chaka riddim that everyone keeps talking about? That's not a good sign (although the fact that "Thug Boat", Elephant Man's ode to a certain crappy TV show theme, is not probably is.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 26 March 2005 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)

well singles-wise i could have argued 04 was 03's equal! and prob have been alone in that. but in the sense of a propulsive giddy movementarian thing randomly feeding off its present and the world around etc d-hall has certainly become a little withdrawn, and so the terms d-hall expects of its dabbler, shall i say without a hint of disparagement, (THIS TIME) have become that much stricter.

perhaps the work of d-hall's more auteur-like ie lenky, south rakkas, ward 21, has been more hermetic of late, too much so for ppl to build upon? also in that critix will cherrypick these, stick em on their pazz n jop and claim d-hall is in its rudest health and it's all just a synechdoche too far. but then does that even have any bearing here. then again u could just as easily say they only seem so hermetic cos others havent done any work around them. 'the chicken needs egging on'!! / 'egg sez "wot are u chicken??"' / 'it's all about the buc-bucs!' (ok no) = etc etc i am so brilliant zzz

on occasion i half-heartedly blame coolie dance's amelodic legacy (riddims kopa > military, say) which WILL NOT GO AWAY and a variety of uninspired electro-clonkers (krazy gym, klymaxx?? i forget how these even go) but i'm still loath to dismiss n totalize cos the odd derivative thing still grabs me in fresh new ways like chat or fungus riddims, and lately other genres cant do even that with their own inbred formalisms (hello rap)

this prob isnt the ragga x3 2005 i would have curated but it wouldnt make a huge difference generally. 'switch' is the best thing on that by miles.

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Saturday, 26 March 2005 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

yes its the chaka; choosing beenie's over any of ele's 3 versions is a bizarre and hateful move!

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Saturday, 26 March 2005 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)

5-Vybz Too Fucky Fucky

He's got troubles.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 26 March 2005 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

and Dutty Panty... eww, bomboclaat.

amon (eman), Saturday, 26 March 2005 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

this is...not great.

strongo, Saturday, 26 March 2005 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Sigh well I guess Greensleeves string of good to excellent comps had to end at some time.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 26 March 2005 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

military drums rolls have gotta go!

strongo, Saturday, 26 March 2005 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Will the future be Drop Leaf (and DROP LEAF 2!)?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 26 March 2005 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Woah "Switch" is really really good--I don't think I was ever aware of this riddim either. Chatt?!? (I like that they kept "F*gg*t Correction" exactly the same, just changed the name haha WTF?)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 27 March 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

For a moment I thought you guys were talking about Will Smith's "Switch".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 27 March 2005 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I like "Switch" all right, whats so bad about the comp jess? I've only heard "Switch" and the Nina Sky track and, erm, "Spragga Correction."

djdee (djdee2005), Sunday, 27 March 2005 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Jess always hates things on first listen unless they're the best thing ever.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 27 March 2005 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I think this is one of his good qualities BTW.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 27 March 2005 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Are none of those on bomb-a-drop? Whats the deal w that?

djdee (djdee2005), Sunday, 27 March 2005 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't see how we can be talking about a fall-off when there are rhythms like:

don corleon's jonkandoo — a total pearler of a production including too fucky fucky (on the ragga ragga ragga comp), this is one of the worst versions, too, btw. head for "hey ladies" by tok, "da size" by macka diamond and sean paul's "eye deh ah mi knee" if you want the real juice.

stone love's rose gold — a brilliant fanfare of a rhythm, really loose and swinging with great horn stabs and an almost mariachi quality to it; the macka diamond cut on this, the name of which temorarily escapes me, is especially great.

Ward 21's Irob - i know this crew has a few haters here, or at least people who are less than enthusuastic about them, but i can't see how anyone can think this is anything less than a stone-cold killer. it pretty much takes terror squad's lean back and brutally batters it round the head with a sledgehammer. i'm big on ward 21's own lady musgrave and anthony b's blue mountain peak, but bounty killer's the baddest (a rework of "badder dan dat" on the kashmir rhythm) is a spectacular, almost breakcore monster of a version.

admittely, two of these rhythms definitely fall within the post-coolie dance category and one is heavily hip-hop-influenced but these still all add up to some of the most exciting music of the year and some of the best ragga in about 12 months, as far as i'm concerned.

fassy, i'm curious as to your thoughts on all this as i'm tempted to say that your reaction, and to a certain extent jess's, too, is simply based on the fact that we've all been pretty spoilt over the past three years or so, and now that dancehall has simply and inevitably failed to keep up the *ridiculous* quality of what we all refer to know as the golden age, you're claiming that things are an awful lot more bleak than they actually are.

the other two in scare dem crew were nitty kutchie and boom dandimite, if it's of any interest. all of them have done bits and bobs separately and they've only recently regrouped, as far as i know.

stelfox, Sunday, 27 March 2005 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't even really comment on what exactly was so bad about it, because i listened to it once, at work, under not great conditions. there were a few riddims which featured multiple times which did absolutely nothing for me at all, minimal clonking things or the martial drum paradiddle thing i talked about above. there were a few good/great things on there, but not enough to justify $15.99 or whatever.

strng hlkngtn, Sunday, 27 March 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

plus the lack of any "bionic ras" makes me itchy with the anger

strng hlkngtn, Sunday, 27 March 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

people hate Ward 21? because last time I thought about it they were, like, probably the best thing ever

whatever (nordicskilla), Sunday, 27 March 2005 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Can I ask when the golden age of ragga is/was? 99-2003/2004?

whatever (nordicskilla), Sunday, 27 March 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post)Well that's not entirely Greensleeves' fault. They can only license what they can and South Rakkas are putting the CD comp out themselves (unlike Red Alert and Clappas.) It is weird that they used nothing from Bomb-A-Drop, which is pretty good, and there is a lot of Vybz again (but I guess he's the man right now so what are you gonna do) and no Ward 21. And I guess that Bomb-A-Drop and most of the Joonkanoo tracks'll gets pushed back to the next comp now (since both just got released.) That Chaka Chaka riddim is dreadful though and excepting some specialness, by and large, I have to agree that this is weaker than the RRRs of the last two years. Still decent though.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 27 March 2005 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Stelfox, I thought Prima was vaguely defending ragga circa 04/05?

I don't think people hate Ward 21 round here at all (U Know How We Roll was one of the best albums of '03!), but I personally have always been resistant to some of the lazy thinking according to which Ward 21 are somehow the respectable face of dancehall as opposed to merely being fantastic practitioners of the style - ie. people who big up Ward 21 and hate on TOK. It's not simply that I don't agree with that line of thinking - I don't even understand it! Ward 21's stuff strikes me as being as slack, violent, funny, commercial, experimental, eerie, silly and inspired as any other dancehall - where's the radical demarcation?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 28 March 2005 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't get the Ward 21/T.O.K. thing either (I was reading a blog recently that compared Ward 21 to the Ruff Ryders and T.O.K. to Boyz 2 Men which makes virtually no sense.) I think put too much weight on the fact that Ward 21 produce a lot of their own riddims and that those riddims are bigger hits for other artists. That gives them a certain auteuristic and "false" underground cache that no other dancehallers really have.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 28 March 2005 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

well, yeah i'm actually agreeing with fassy, too (stop the presses, hold the entire internet, etc). i think he's got it right in many ways.
it just sounds like, while i'm with him on the idea that dancehall's demands of the listener have made the whole experience a little more constricting than it was a while ago, we're not recognising that *our demands on it* might be a tad unrealistic - i'll say it again: we've been really spoilt of late and seem to expect the music to keep up a pace that was crazy wonderful for a while but ultimately unsustainable in the long term.
as for the ward 21 hate thing, i just remember a few people a while back, maybe playing devil's advocate, taking the stance that they were not as interesting as people made out simply as a reaction to the "oh look, they're really avant garde and experimental coz they use eerie, dark and odd noises and pretend they're insane".
i, for one, do think they're incredible and that all this hyperbole does, for once, apply. however, i've always said that vis a vis artists like tok, ward 21 are only *as* good and *as* experimental.
it's just that both crews approach music in radically differently ways: the ward as deranged, immersive antifunk; tok going for suface gloss and that manic anarchopop thrill that only they do so well. this is totally evident in the way they portray and market themselves, too (ward 21 continually mugging off at the cameras and naming themselves after the mental wing of kingston general hospital and tok pushing themselves as the slickest of goodtime boybands - both of them succeeding, too), so the ruff ryders>boyz 2 men analogy alex seems to dislike so much is actually pretty accurate.
the only thing wrong with it (and i haven't read the piece he's referring to, so i'm only asuming) is that it appears that the person responsible is saying that somehow this makes ward 21 the *better* choice, which is, of course, pretty facile, especially if you're a genuine fan of this music, understand it as the pop music it absolutely is, and appreciate that there's room for many different takes on the format.
for what it's worth i'm not overly keen on this comp compared to previous years and do think it includes a lot of mediocre stuff at the expense of better material (whover said about greensleeves' licensing arrangements affecting this is absolutely spot-on, though. but it's still a pretty good overview for people who either can't or don't want to spend all their time and money on 7"s.
just a thought: maybe we should compile our own best of the past 12 months and offer it up for download - i'd be willing to host it for a couple of days - anyone in?

stelfox, Monday, 28 March 2005 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I think yr spot on stelfox - I would never expect any genre to be the fountain of goodness that dancehall was especially in 2003.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 28 March 2005 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)

and yeah, i think fire links needs a good slap for chaka chaka. it's a total mess of a rhythm and not even funny.

stelfox, Monday, 28 March 2005 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i didn't notice the "spraggot correction" comment until just now, either. best laugh i've had in a couple of days.

stelfox, Monday, 28 March 2005 12:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Boyz II Men is still a weak analogy as Boyz II Men 1) pretty much only sing and 2) have songs about completely different stuff than the Ruff Ryders do (and anyone T.O.K. clearly are the dancehall version of Bones, Thugs & Harmony--why would you want to look for another point of comparison?)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone=anyway

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Boyz II Men is still a weak analogy as Boyz II Men 1) pretty much only sing and 2) have songs about completely different stuff than the Ruff Ryders do

um... and *your* point is?

stelfox, Monday, 28 March 2005 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

That T.O.K. don't only sing and their songs are about basically the same stuff as Ward 21.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, if you say so

stelfox, Monday, 28 March 2005 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe I'm missing the huge marketing differences here in the states, cuz sonically I'm not hearing it (B2M to RR here is a pretty big difference.) If anything I would say the group aspect (and the way in which each group uses their vocals) make them more similar to one another than they are to any other big dancehall acts.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 28 March 2005 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

well i wouldn't say there is any marketing beyond what they do themselves in JA and on a very grassroots level, but aside from the odd dabble tok don't really produce, whereas ward 21 are actually a production outfit as well as a vocal crew. note that i'm not using the term "band" because tok explicitly put themselves fwd as a "band". in fact, roshaun and alex actually compared themselves to nsync(!) when i interviewed them a while ago. the bone thugs and harmony comparison is a bit better admitedly, but i think you're splitting hairs with that dude's analogy and being unnecessarily dismissive, especially when tok themselves wouldprobably agree with him to a point.

stelfox, Monday, 28 March 2005 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I actually didn't realize until I just did a bit of reading now that T.O.K. initially modelled themselves after Boyz II Men.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 28 March 2005 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

chi-chi man come to the end of the road

strng hlkngtn, Monday, 28 March 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry

strng hlkngtn, Monday, 28 March 2005 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

If anything I would say the group aspect (and the way in which each group uses their vocals) make them more similar to one another than they are to any other big dancehall acts.

i would strongly disagree with this, though. the only similar aspect about them is the group configuration (four guys, same age-ish etc). their respective versions of pretty much any rhythm they're both featured on are absolutely poles apart, especially lately. ward 21 have got darker, more mumbly, gruff and murky in their sound whereas tok are going balls-out pop, even moreso than usual.

incidentally, another great thing about that tok interview was having alex singing tarzan boy by baltimora down the phone when i mentioned "she's a ho" on the trifecta riddim. this just after we had a somewhat stilted conversation about their views on homosexuality—the guy out of baltimora was obviously quite gay, i told him... to no great avail.

stelfox, Monday, 28 March 2005 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I would agree that each group goes for a different effect, but the actual way the voices themselves play off each (from gruff to smooth), little things like echos, layers and interjections, even some of the harmonic elements, I'd say both groups still mine a similar territory.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i really do think they represent completely opposite endsof the spectrum, but sure, they're a good conterpoint to one another.

stelfox, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha I guess what it comes down to is that they are the opposite ends of a rather slim spectrum that for me comprises them and two other hardcore dancehall "groups" (Scare Dem Crew and the Innocent Cru) which in my book makes them more alike than most stuff.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i'll give you that.

stelfox, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I tend to side with Alex on this minor debate but I suspect it's because I essentially listen to all dancehall with "pop" ears. Ward 21 have to be fairly blatant about their non-pop elements (eg. "Petrol") in order for me to pick up on them. Mind you I think that TOK frequently "fail" to be particularly straightforward pop - stuff like "Gal Yuh A Lead" or "Galang Gal" actually strikes me as more otherworldly and alien than most dancehall.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Beenie Man's "Three Laws" is maybe the worst anti-oral sex (it's not the worst anti-gay sex song though) ragga song I've heard (note: this is not a contest to find a WORSE song.) Between this and the Chaka Chaka song he's not doing well on this comp.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i am now wondering about this supposed drop off because i am listening to biggest ragga dancehall anthems 2004 for the first time since the 1st of the new year. and it seemed incredibly boring to me when i first heard it, but...it's all surprisingly entertaining if not as consistently wig movin as 2003's (and before.)

ragga X3 2005 really did sound disappointing though. not looking forward to writing about this.

strng hlkntn, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Ragga Dancehall Anthems 04 works best if you mentally retitle it "It's A Crazy Ragga Dancehall Party!!!" There's something very superficial and silly about all of it, but that doesn't have to be a bad thing.

It's may not be coincidental that the relatively darker-feeling reggaeton has blown up so much at the same point in time.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

well, i've fucked up my back, am in some considerable discomfort and can't sleep, so here goes again: i agree wholeheartedly that ragga ragga ragga 2005 is pretty dull, but please folks, don't use one comp as an excuse to say that the well is drying up. that would be lazy and reductive in the extreme. it's just not a great choice of tracks, though greensleeves may have their reasons for this - other comps in the pipeline, big rhythm albums only recently being released and not wanting to double up on tracks, vp or other companies owning the rights on a lot of other more interesting rhythms etc. as i said, i'm sure between us all we could compile as shit-kicking comp covering the same time frame so let's not lose sight of that.

stelfoxx, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

talking of reggaeton, has anyone here heard latino pride by dj skribblw and dj sal parm? if not, you really, seriously need to.

stelfoxx, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

skribble

stelfoxx, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think ragga/dancehall is weak at all (maybe down a little from the highs of a couple of years ago, but certainly not by much.) And any weakness in the Greensleeves comps is mostly made up by slightly stronger batch of VP comps last year. I do wish RRR05 was better esp. since there were definitely better tracks to choose on the Jonkandoo and Bomb-A-Drop riddims and Greensleeves used to be really peerless at doing these. I'm guessing that licensing problems (most of the big acts now being on VP/Atlantic) have a lot to do with preventing them from getting the best stuff these days.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Bubble Up tracklisting announced!

1 LENGTH & STRENGTH - MACKA DIAMOND
2 IT SWEET ME - ELEPHANT MAN
3 NO MAN CURSE - WAYNE MARSHALL
4 A NUH YOUR FAULT - VOICEMAIL
5 GOD BLESS - ASSASSIN
6 IT DRH YAH - DEGREE
7 DON'T WANNA DANCE - TAMI CHIN
8 STICKY - ZUMJAY
9 CREEPING - M'LONIE
10 MICHELLE - DANNY ENGLISH
11 JESUS IS SWEETER - NICKI TUCKER
12 AIN'T SCARED - BLING DAWG
13 EVERTHING IS OK - HAWKEYE
14 CHANGE YOUR WAYS - CHICO
15 LIVING MY LIFE - RED ROSE
16 WANNA BE YOUR MAN - NICKY B
17 RUFF & SWEET - LENKY

No Sean Paul?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 April 2005 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

"we be burning", or "legalize it" or whatever it's actually called is getting some radio play i think, right? so maybe they're keeping it for the next album (which should be really good, yeah? he's had quite a run of good-to-excellent versions)

jermaine (jnoble), Monday, 11 April 2005 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"We'll Be Burning" is the version on Bubble Up ("Legalize It" is on some other riddim) and WAS already on Strictly The Best. VP is a pain in the ass sometimes.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 April 2005 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

the sp in question on the stepz riddim was released twice on 7: first on rennaissance as 'legalize it', then same tune again this time under vp called 'we'll be burning'. this is the version that made the strictly the best comp, which was itself released a couple of months before bubble up.

(don't overlook the stepz one either - the chorus arguably sounds better, certainly nobler there. altho militaristic sounds a drudge now granted)

when the same chat later emerged on bubble up the promo cds and thus the mp3s had it down as 'legalize it', but the 7 was again to read 'we'll be burning'.

er so basically the bubble up one has never been released, and might be a good bet for an album i guess. altho the only other good s paul of late that springs to mind is him on kopa riddim??

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Monday, 11 April 2005 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Confusion. I have the "We'll Be Burning" 7". I just assumed the track on Strictly The Best was the same one.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 April 2005 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

the only other good s paul of late that springs to mind is him on kopa riddim

i can't think of any other actual good recent s pauls offhand! it just seemed right when i wrote it, oh well.

jermaine (jnoble), Monday, 11 April 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

erm sorry if i killed the voib there.

hold tight the genre gatekeeper (mwah), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

S'okay. I've not heard most of the Bubble Up stuff (Bling Dawg, the Sean Paul track.) What's good on the riddim?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Chico!

Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually I wanted to ask (and Chico made me remember to) but is it just me or is there a dearth of good dancehall names lately? Voicemail? Busy Signal? What's wrong with these people?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

assassin ws my favourite i think. in retrospect jealousy made me overlook that nicky b's was v cute and shaded chico's. and ele did the shirelles

i think it was... double barrell riddim? but a b-side there starred a japanese toaster called RANKIN TAXI

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

[i]the only thing wrong with it (and i haven't read the piece he's referring to, so i'm only asuming) is that it appears that the person responsible is saying that somehow this makes ward 21 the *better* choice, which is, of course, pretty facile, [b]especially if you're a genuine fan of this music, understand it as the pop music it absolutely is,[/b] and appreciate that there's room for many different takes on the format.[/i]

Contradictory.

elflaconeri, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"he only other good s paul of late that springs to mind is him on kopa riddiml"

check out the applause riddim version called "temperature"

captain easychord (captain easychord), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

he's actually great on the jonkanoo or whatever the hell it's called, too

stelfox, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not quite clear why it has taken him so long to release a follow-up actually (or why T.O.K. and Elephant Man can't get their shit together lately either.) They seem to be wasting a lot of good press, frankly.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Which of course loops back to VP being a pain in the ass (although in this case it may as much if not more an Atlantic thing.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

"Creeping" is so great!

Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

They seem to be wasting a lot of good press, frankly.

are you sure about this. i've seen an exponantial amount more negative press than positive re dancehall over the past 12 months and think that could well be playing a part, especially with albums they hope to crossover into the mainstream demographic

stelfox, Thursday, 14 April 2005 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Press was a poor choice. Hype or momentum is what I meant. This is probably the most open urban radio has been to playing dancehall in while, I would think that record companies would be inclined to exploit the crossover potential on urban radio (esp. since appetites for it seem to wane suddenly.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 April 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

BTW according to VP's website Unknown Language is APPARENTLY coming out on June 28th 2005 (although obv this should be a believe it when you see it type thing.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 April 2005 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
http://www.vprecords.com/onesheet.php?cat_number=VP2290.2

Sleepy Dog Riddem Driven. I like everything I've heard on this.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.