Jazz suggestions

It is not really a Garcia-oriented band. It is more about funky jazz and horns and Merl Saunders.

After spending 20 years digging into the canon, I'm seeing a certain perfection in 1970s straight ahead Jazz, mainly from these two albums:

(1970) Ahmad Jamal Trio - The Awakening
(1977) Ron Carter - Third Plane

The level of tasteful interplay between keyboard and bass on these albums is both soothing, and staggering.

listened to that ron carter on the bus t'other day because the dude next to me was blasting some jazz in his headphones and i got jealous. tis true. tis outstanding. will check out 'the awakening'

OP description sounds like maybe Herbie Hancock's movie score work, Lalo Schiffrin, various CTI stuff.

yeah probably.
third plane and awakenings are good examples of 70s jazz that isn't really "out" but is still exploratory/fresh/adventurous. both beautifully recorded too.

speaking of carter, it says on his website that he's played on 2500 albums! which seems impossible? maybe they're counting compilations, repackages, etc.

Well, Jazzdisco.org has this:

http://www.jazzdisco.org/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=Ron+Carter&submit=Search!&whence=0&lang=en

And I just watched this Gary Giddins interview, last week, which attempts to address this:

http://fora.tv/2010/10/18/Jazz_Legacies_A_Conversation_with_Ron_Carter

OP description sounds like maybe Herbie Hancock's movie score work, Lalo Schiffrin, various CTI stuff.

Or the soundtrack to The Taking Of Pelham One Two Three

Dude got around. If you do three sessions a day, five days a week, for 30+ years, and 70% of them are released in some form or another, that could easily add up to 2500 records.

I often find I don't like 70s straight-ahead records because they tend to be very dry and have this pyongy sounding bass.

Dude got around. If you do three sessions a day, five days a week, for 30+ years, and 70% of them are released in some form or another, that could easily add up to 2500 records.

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While that sounds a bit unrealistic, Carter's career is more like 50+ years, and there are probably a whole bunch of live records too.

dunno about carter -- obviously he was on every other record in the 60s-70s, but post 80s, was there that much demand? i guess he may be playing on random things no one really knows about, film scores, tv commercials and the like.

anyhoo, whatever, ron carter RULES.

i don't know, it seems possible since he was a steady session guy throughout the '70s and '80s, not to mention the '60s records and latter day stuff.

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here's something from do the math:
But there is no way for me to verify Ron's claim that he is on 2000+ discs. He began recording in about 1960, so that would mean an average of 40+ records a year, which frankly seems impossible. But he was extremely active as a session musician in the 60's, 70's and 80's. Also, his output in Japan is a whole other chapter, including a lot of records that are little-known over here. (UPDATE: Tom Lord's discography until 2008 lists 1104 sessions.)

man ron carter looks great. 74 years old.

All Music has 28 releases featuring Ron Carter for 1969, e.g., and I'd assume their list isn't exhaustive. Maybe 2000 is a stretch, but not a huge one. Maybe he's counting stuff he's sampled on, compilations, idk.

BTW even in the 90s he seems to have like 10-15 releases a year featuring him just as listed on AMG.

that gary giddins interview is great, thanks.

Yeah, that interview definitely added real depth to my interest in Carter.