Personally, I am slightly disappointed, but it may be a grower. I feel like it is most natural to compare the album to "Odelay", but I feel the tunes were stronger on "Odelay".
Also, the fact that Beck's previous album was my favourite by him has made me kind of disappointed, but knowing his release scheme (post modern/groove based - singer/songwriter - post modern/groove based - singer/songwriter etc.) I know that he will eventually not do a proper followup to "Sea Change" until his next album anyway.
Still a lot of interesting stuff going on in the background, so I guess it is a grower. And the tunes are stronger than on "Midnite Vultures", which I eventually like anyway. So I guess it's OK, even though it may be a disappointment to me at first listen.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― ZionTrain, Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)
I have just heard four (4) tracks from the upcoming Beck record
― I got the job because I was so mean, while somehow appearing so kind. (AaronHz), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)
how stupid is the NME review of the new beck album?
does anyone have the final mix of the new beck album?
― I got the job because I was so mean, while somehow appearing so kind. (AaronHz), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― I got the job because I was so mean, while somehow appearing so kind. (AaronHz), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)
It'll sell a shitload. "E-Pro" is Beck's biggest hit since "Loser", by far.
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 24 March 2005 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)
Btw. "Devil's Haircut" was a decent hit, wasn't it?
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 24 March 2005 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)
Yeah, but moreso on MTV. Beck's never been much of a Billboard presence, his only #1 prior to "E-Pro" was "Loser" (which I believe went to #1 on the Hot 100 as well, which is pretty crazy)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 24 March 2005 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― charleston charge (chaki), Thursday, 24 March 2005 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 24 March 2005 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)
And Guero is a perfectly fine record. I'd probably like it less if Sea Change didn't exist, but the minor moments (the Ernie Isley-type guitar in "Earthquake Weather"; the 30-Beck choir on "Girl"; the split-second hoe-down sample in "Hell Yes") are interesting enough.
― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Thursday, 24 March 2005 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)
You'd have to be pretty sheltered to find vision/genius/genes in this. He's a great performer when the muses align, but the back catalog on its own is backwash. Latin Playboys anyday. No elderly white rappers please. Gimme Paleface. Before the lines sink much more: isn't the pattern basically Hire Dust Brothers/Don't hire Dust Brothers/Hire Dust Brothers/Don't?
The guy's perpetually unobjectionable, but as a fence-sitter to modern rock I have to marvel that he appears on K-Tel comps with someone as genuinely strenuous as Björk.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:13 (twenty-one years ago)
I can say with utmost certainty that my record collection is better than yours.
― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Thursday, 24 March 2005 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)
Guero's more like a "whole is greater than the sum of its parts" kind of deal, these are actual songs that really hold together well, the flip side of that being of course that not as much really jumps out at you, which is why I think alot of people are slow to get behind it, 'cause we're not used to that from Beck.
The more I listen to it though, there's isn't a single song that doesn't sound terrific to me, except ironically enough maybe "E-Pro."
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)
not to say there aren't some standouts- grrl, for instance, makes me smile ,and despite the serial killer lyrics, still exudes a morbid happiness. and yesh, the 30+ beck chorus.
i dunno. it's beck. not breaking any new ground, just holdin steady.
― eedd, Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)
i guess i think it's easy to place time by beck with his songs. i mean, you hear 'pay no mind' and immediately go to 'mellow gold' or 'forcefield' go to 'one foot in the grave'. 'stereopathetic' seemed to be the oddity, just a collection from his tapes. and so on.
but, this one seems to lack that quality. and that's still not a knock on it.
i wish i knew the titles, there's a real spacey one with some nice heavy gtr goin on in the back that i'm just in awe of. 'broken drum' maybe? i dunno.
maybe this album will inspire a whole new wave of 'beck backlash'...
wait, did it ever stop??
― eedd, Thursday, 24 March 2005 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Friday, 25 March 2005 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)
I know, I know, but after all this time I'll still waiting for the festival to kick in. Lots of cool intentionally thwarted production ideas, but I hate it when people credit him for that just because his face is on the disc.
Okay, never mind, I'm just going to go steal some child's Easter candy now -- enjoy the new Beck, everyone!
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 25 March 2005 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)
the sndtrk to the Y2K meltdown.or mine at least.
― eedd, Friday, 25 March 2005 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)
For me, Beck is best at being melancholic in a highly melodic and downbeat way. But he is good at being fun as well? ;)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 25 March 2005 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)
(or is that only on this import?):http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0007V5WUK/ref=ase_goldenfiddlec-20/104-1885227-1019915?v=glance&s=music
― Bent Over at the Arclight (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Waking Up Onstage at Jumbo's (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Telephonething, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)
but the 8-bit remix EP -- OMG, best beck stuff in yeaaars.
― Sean M (Sean M), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)
I can't decide if I even want to hear this album (I never heard Sea Change and can't say I regret it)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)
actually, by this album and sea change's tone, he sounds genuinely, seriously depressed.
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)
― mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)
― BARMS, Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)
and yeah, the lack of rad singles doesn't help.
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)
This album is fucking great and possibly his best realized piece of work.
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Friday, 19 November 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)
i agree!! i thought i was the only one. it's the only beck i can deal with these days tbh.
― I love you girls but that music is for radical faeries (Matt P), Friday, 19 November 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)
whooooooooa this is much better than I remember
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)
Pretty sure I'd like it if I remembered to replay it. "Scarecrow" always got me. I still hear that remix of "Girl" all over the place.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 November 2010 21:53 (fifteen years ago)
huh, this one struck me as the most skippable of beck's 21st century albums - maybe i'll revisit. kind of hated "girl".
― tylerw, Friday, 19 November 2010 22:15 (fifteen years ago)
was this Beck's New Jersey? or was it Sea Change.
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 May 2013 20:42 (thirteen years ago)
having just gotten around to listening to it for the first time. sorta amazed it did very well. there's hooks scattered throughout but it's not anywhere as packed or busy as Odelay/Midnight Vultures
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 May 2013 20:44 (thirteen years ago)
was this Beck's New Jersey?kill me
― billstevejim, Friday, 10 May 2013 20:45 (thirteen years ago)
this was great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSrGYsciyjA
― piscesx, Sunday, 12 May 2013 01:23 (thirteen years ago)
the riff he's playing sounds like a modified versh of phil collins' another day in paradise
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 12 May 2013 01:30 (thirteen years ago)
The last great Beck album, for mine.
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 26 November 2021 04:15 (four years ago)
With some editing (i.e. cut to ten tracks across a good LP length), I think The Information could have been a solid A album, and as-is I think it's still better than Guero. Regardless, Guero is still excellent, an A- album to me. I do wish they used the 8-Bit remix of "Hell Yes" ("Ghettochip Malfunction"), and it seemed strange that they didn't when that version was the lead single, complete with video.
― birdistheword, Friday, 26 November 2021 04:36 (four years ago)
i love the ghettochip malfunction remix
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Friday, 26 November 2021 05:17 (four years ago)
I thought E-Pro was the lead single? My second least favourite after Girl.
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 26 November 2021 10:38 (four years ago)
I was able to look it up, and this ancient Glorious Noise article cleared it up. "Hell Yes (Ghettochip Malfunction)" came out first as a video that was dropped on January 24, 2005. HOWEVER, they had to update/correct their report with the following: This is a special “online-only” video (i.e., not the first single).
https://gloriousnoise.com/2005/new_beck_video_hell_yes
"E-Pro" came out later in March (the album came out later the same month), but that was officially the lead single.
― birdistheword, Friday, 26 November 2021 15:46 (four years ago)
I like Guero. It's just a good pop record. Maybe too long, but overloading albums was definitely a thing in the early 2000s.
Much more interested in the confusion over what the actual lead single was. I love instances like that. It was very common in hiphop at the time too. Song would come out on a promo 12" single or something and then a month or so later, there would be an even bigger push for a newer song / video.
—(of course in hiphop the first, lesser promoted one was usually geared towards mixtapes and street buzz, while the bigger push was intended for the radio)—
I also really like the idea of a lead single being a remix that isn't even on the proper album. Frustrating for discography continuity maybe, but I love finding "wormholes" like that in catalogues. I remember "E-Pro" getting the big push at the time.
― please don't refer to me as (Austin), Friday, 26 November 2021 16:15 (four years ago)
yes I remember "Hell Yes" as the first single.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 November 2021 16:16 (four years ago)