TS; Daft Punk vs Kraftwerk

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Synths, robots, heartbreaking melodies, vocoders, dancefloor muscle and a certain elan when it comes to dressing. So what comes on top, Teutonic precision or Gallic flair?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I go with Kraftwerk, but then I'm old school.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

kraftwerk, but daft punk is certainly great

― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Kraftwerk. But they have a few years' head start.

― Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

it depends on what period kraftwerk we're talking about! if we're talking about kraftwerk NOW, then daft punk wins. but early or mid-period kraftwerk blows pretty much every other band, robot or non-robot, out of the water.

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't stand Daft Punk at all. Kraftwerk wins.

― What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Daft Punk. I love Kraftwerk, but they're not responsible for "Digital Love".

― C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Kraftwerk.

Discovery is excellent, and Homework is alright, but one great album and one good album vs., oh, Computerworld, The Man * Machine, Trans Europe Express, Radioactivity, Autobahn, even Ralf Und Florian and Electric Cafe,...

oh hell! Kraftwerk and Kraftwerk 2. Fuck Daft Punk. Kraftwerk, no question.

― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

EVEN???? Ralf Und Florian?

Sir, I do protest!!!!

― Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Ralf Und Florian is the one out of the first three I listen to the least. It's pleasant.. about as pleasant as Electric Cafe, but compared to the very first two? It holds a candle to them, but a dim one, me thinks.

― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

it's a good morning record

― Silky Sensor (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

kraftwerk, without a nanosecond's hesitation. next.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Being that there would be no Daft Punk without Kraftwerk, I have to say Kraftwerk.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

This one is easy, Daft Punk.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe this should be robots vs. anime

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, Kraftwerk are like the Beatles of electronica, sure they're great, but I don't find myself listening to them directly.

Also Ned, Daft Punk are also robots of course.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

(sorry to use the awful word "electronica" - ew)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Being that there would be no Daft Punk without Kraftwerk, I have to say Kraftwerk.

Do you read things written on ILM or just post to it? ;-)

(notice winky)

― deej., Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Also Ned, Daft Punk are also robots of course.

(True, but since Kraftwerk never went anime of their own volition I figured that the distinction could be made.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Kraftwerk are playing at my house.

― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

kraftwerk. they not have written anything like "digital love" but their overall catalog is so much better.

― j-dizzle, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

kraftwerk

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

computer love >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digital love

(and I like digital love, but come on now)

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

"Digital Love" is now my second favorite song of all time.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

If Kraftwerk are the Beatles of electronica, what does that make Daft Punk?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Daft Punk are the XTC of electronica

*dodges Miccio's bullets*

― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

It's worth noting that Daft Punk just barely qualified for the Foghat rule. Their THIRD major release was double live, not their fourth.

― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Daft Punk should totally have a double live album!

Also, XTC are terrible.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

geniuses not being quite as good as they used to be TS-

'Human After All' vs 'Electric Cafe'

― Owen Hatherley (owen), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

my well-documented adoration for Kraftwerk aside, i think Spencer is pretty on-point here.

also, Daft Punk never did the hippie bicycle-riding thing...they should get points for that. if you're a real robot, you wouldn't buy into that Tour de France garbage.

also where's the love for 'Homework'? 'Homework' is only 'alright'?! That album was a stone-cold classic!

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

*dodges Miccio's bullets*

why do you think I'd be offended? Alex is the one who cares who XTC is compared to.

(x-post) I haven't heard Homework and I'm wondering if I might love it a lot more than the last two (wouldn't be hard, really)

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

"Digital Love" ain't all its cracked up to me, if truth be told.

Also, XTC are terrible.

You should wear a cold pint of beer for that.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

cracked up to me

er...to be.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Homework is a bit overrated, but it's great indeed, and it did change a lot in club music. Kinda like Dre's The Chronic for hip-hop. I just wouldn't use the phrase stone-cold classic personally.

Daft Punk should totally have a double live album!

I thought they did(?) Alive 1997, right?

― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

overrated by whom? Discovery is the one that gets all the props and accolades around these parts, not Homework. Esp. not overrated by the American press!

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

In Europe it's Homework that is considered to be the classic. Discovery was "fun".

I say both are classics.

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Btw, which of Kraftwerks albums is most pop?

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Homework certainly got a lot of props when it first came out even in the U.S., and continued to do so until the follow up. Yeah, Discovery has taken the crown now (in the U.S.), but that doesn't change Homework's history of accolades.

― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Lovelace, i'd say The Man * Machine or Computerworld. Also, Electric Cafe somewhat.

― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

does homework, have, to use the terminology of Scott Stapp, more THUMP than Discovery? Cuz Discovery needed more thump.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Miccio be right.

― Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Yoo Doo Right

― Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Homework seems to be the generally recognized "classic" here in the US as well. Discovery is classic mostly on ILM.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think the US recognizes Daft Punk

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

except maybe from gap ads

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Their live album is absolutely tremendous. It's in my top 5 of live albums. It will be solely responsible for the tinnitus I will be affected by any time soon(should've been affected by it a looong time ago!).

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Homework seems to be the generally recognized "classic" here in the US as well. Discovery is classic mostly on ILM.

Sanity prevails.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I am firmly in the ILM camp.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i might actually prefer Tour De France 03 to Human After All

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Both albums have five or six great songs and the rest is kind of bleh.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

TdF03 just seems to have got better over time for me - I think it's fantastic, I think it came from seeing them live last year and then listening to bits of the album on the Amtrak

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

fab vs rob

― dave q (listerine), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Daft Punk never did the hippie bicycle-riding thing...they should get points for that. if you're a real robot, you wouldn't buy into that Tour de France garbage.

Cycling is a classic example of cybernetic enhancement of the human body. Early pro-cycling encomiums are totally Futurist. It's all about the Man-Machine, innit?

― Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Homework and Discovery are both classic.

And the live album is as good as either.

Also Bangalter has done lots of non Daft Punk stuff too, which I think still should be considered here, I mean the Stardust/Together stuff is as good as anything on Discovery anyway.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)

you could make a pretty good double CD compilation of Bangalter's (Trax On Da Rocks etc.) and Le Knight Club's solo stuff (Saturn! Boogie Shell!) yes

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 24 March 2005 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

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