Name your favourite track on Wedding Present's Seamonsters

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Mine was Rotterdam for over 10 years and then it became...

Octopussy.

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― Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 25 March 2005 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"Suck"

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 25 March 2005 08:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to have a friend from California who was really really nuts about the Weddoes, his favourite was Blonde I think.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 25 March 2005 08:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Also my other friend's favourite is Heather.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 25 March 2005 08:32 (twenty-one years ago)

How could it be anything but 'Octopussy'?

"Take off your clothes and lie down over there"

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 25 March 2005 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

'Dalliance' is my favourite Weddoes song full stop/period. what an amazing song, probably the most bitter and deranged song Dave ever wrote. and what an awesome album in general. i *heart* Seamonsters.

― Lee F# (fsharp), Friday, 25 March 2005 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)

'Octopussy'
'Heather'
'Dalliance'
'Dare'
'Lovenest'
'Rotterdam'
'Blonde'
'Corduroy'
'Suck'
'Carolyn'

I guess.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 25 March 2005 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)

it used to be "suck". now it's probably "heather". or ... hellfire, bimble, all of them. you're talking about one of my favourite albums of all time. this is difficult.

if i can cheat, then i'll say "crawl", which is my favourite weddoes song ever. and, y'know, it's on the remastered CD as a bonus track :)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 25 March 2005 09:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Probably my favourite Peel session of all time, in terms of hearing it when it was first broadcast and listening to it over and over, was the one where three tracks from Seamonsters, plus 'Niagara' were premiered. I haven't listened to it in so long the official versions have totally supplanted it in my memory, though I remember being a bit thrown at the volume of the drums on the Albnini 'Blonde'.

Was this session ever released?

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 25 March 2005 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

('Albnini' is a typo, not a cute insult)

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 25 March 2005 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Alba, yes it came out on cd with some other peel sessions - hard to find though

i agree, a brilliant session, and add my vote for Crawl sneaking in as best seamonsters era track. or octopussy...

― bedoah, Friday, 25 March 2005 11:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't "Crawl" come out a year before Seamonsters or something? There was that transition period between albums where the sound gradually got darker, harder, starker. The re-recorded "Brassneck" single prob the first indication of intent.
But "Crawl" is fantastic though, I've still got the played-to-death "3 Songs" ep 7" single stuffed away somewhere. I hope.

Faves: first it was "Octopussy", then "Heather" , then "Suck" (I remember making a mixtape at the time for a girl I fancied, I put 'Suck" on there just to, y'know, drive the point home). Now? Probably "Dare" actually. I love it when Gedge is trying to have it away with someone else's woman.

― David Merryweather (DavidM), Friday, 25 March 2005 11:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Love nest, surely. I thought it would thoroughly own this thread.

― hmmm (hmmm), Friday, 25 March 2005 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

There was that transition period between albums where the sound gradually got darker, harder, starker. The re-recorded "Brassneck" single prob the first indication of intent.

I think the first experiment with this direction was 'One Day This Will All Be Yours' on the Kennedy 12", which I was completely besotted with for a while. Still can't make out the lyrics.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 25 March 2005 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

"On that fateful day the budgie had a stroke"

Sometimes I hate what the internet has done.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 25 March 2005 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I've still got the played-to-death "3 Songs" ep 7" single stuffed away somewhere. I hope

i got a second-hand copy of this as a birthday present from a dear - although now long-lost - friend. she was a very prim and proper indian girl, who'd had an old-school english-style education back home, and was now slowly being corrupted by tossers like me in edinburgh.

anyway, for my 19th/20th birthday (can't remember which; it'd have been a wee bit after the single actually came out, certainly), she got me three indie records. seriously: she'd actually gone into avalanche in edinburgh and asked for "three indie singles, please". i got "three songs" and ... fuck knows, two other things that probably weren't very good. but that was the first time i heard "crawl". i don't think she realised just what a hugely important present that turned out to be.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 25 March 2005 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post: gedge's lyrics never work when you see them written as texts. it's all in the delivery: the way he elevates the crushingly mundane to the height of passion.

hang on, we'll be back to arguing about "my favourite dress" in a minute. i'm getting back to work.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 25 March 2005 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

"Corduroy"

Although I do find the enduring depth of love for Seamonsters awe-inspiring and just a wee bit puzzling. : )

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Friday, 25 March 2005 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Seamonsters' guitars let us feel manly about our patheticness.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 25 March 2005 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

you should build a time machine so you can go back and sell that as the perfect seamonsters review.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 25 March 2005 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I am finding that building a time machine is increasingly central to my plans.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 25 March 2005 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

if you manage to get it built this afternoon, fast-forward to 6.30pm, at which point you'll find keith, phil, myself and a couple of others in mono.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 25 March 2005 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dare." Albini's production ruins the album for me.

― Kent Burt (lingereffect), Friday, 25 March 2005 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Dalliance, also the best WEdding Present song ever

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 25 March 2005 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dare".

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 25 March 2005 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

If I remember correctly, the cd single for....was it "Corduroy"?...had a great cover of "She's My Best Friend" by the Velvets.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 25 March 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be the "Dalliance" single, Alex in NYC. I've got the 10" single! B/W "Niagra", "She's My Best Friend" and "What Have I Said Now?" (live)

― David Merryweather (DavidM), Friday, 25 March 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

No, Corduroy was on the Three Songs EP which came out in about September or October 1990 (with Crawl and Come Up And See Me) (and a live version of something from Bizzaro, so it actually had four songs), and it was a different version to the one on Seamonsters.

She's My Best Friend was on an EP that came out about the same time as Seamonster (May? June? July? 1991), probably Dalliance but I can't quite remember. It is a great version, but on my record the
hole was slightly off centre so the songs kept speeding up and slowing down.

Ah, too slow.. xpost.

― The Horse of Babylon (the pirate king), Friday, 25 March 2005 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Lovenest! - damn does that midsection rock out..

While in high school, I often put Dalliance as the first song on mix tapes and then gave them to people to listen to while I rode in their car. Albini's production is always a bit misleading at first: The beginning is so quiet, that my unsuspecting friends would turn up the volume to a level that blew all of our minds when the rocking finally came!

― Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Friday, 25 March 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Listened to the whole album earlier tonight. Just plain ridiculously fabulous stuff. And a blessing too cause I really didn't think they were a band I'd want to pull out anymore - I'd come to associate them with some people I was hanging around with a few years ago and didn't think Wedding Present would really have a third lifetime with me.

I do think Fiendish cheated with mentioning "Crawl" though. I mean that doesn't count here as part of the album to me, and if it had actually been a part of the original album I would have chosen it as my favourite track easily. "Crawl" and "Niagara" would make my top 5 WP songs.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:17 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread has prompted me to re-listen just now too! It's good innit, but it's almost as though Gedge sustained a wrist injury or something prior to recording!

I guess it's the Albini factor, but the emphasis is put firmly on the drums here, while the guitars drift around them as big thick blobs. And it's largely the drums which shift the tension up, from those lazy 'boom-boom-tsk's to the brutal 'tatatatatatatat's. It is the WP version of the quiet-loud-qiet-loud arrangement, and is a pretty long way from the more evenly-paced frenzy of "Once More" or even "Kennedy".

Now I'm thinking that's why I like "Corduroy", as that's where they briefly unleash the trebly frenzy of old, having saved up that half-forgotten secret weapon for that chorus alone.

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Saturday, 26 March 2005 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Dalliance. No, Corduroy.

Ignore that. Dalliance.

Bugger, forgot about Suck.

Eeeewwwwww too difficult.

― Si Carter (Si Carter), Sunday, 27 March 2005 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Corduroy, easy. But Octopussy makes me all liquid inside.

― nicole simone (nicole simone), Sunday, 27 March 2005 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh Errrr Missus!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 27 March 2005 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i just listened to this yesterday, but im not sure i can make a choice. wheres nabisco? he'll definitely have an opinion...

― peter smith (plsmith), Sunday, 27 March 2005 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

1. octopussy - falling leaves
2. dare - close
3. blonde
4. heather - mine! (fantastic intro)
5. dalliance
6. rotterdam - gallant
7. carolyn - affectionate
8. suck
9. lovenest
10. corduroy

― youn, Sunday, 27 March 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dalliance" for me, with "Suck" close behind.

― buck van smack (Buck Van Smack), Monday, 28 March 2005 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i adore you - suck it all right out of me

― adorer, Monday, 28 March 2005 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

blonde is open and spacy like octopussy but not like autumn, more like winter.

― youn, Monday, 28 March 2005 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

"dare" by a country mile.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 28 March 2005 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

dare is claustrophobic. i think dylan does something similar in visions of johanna, but the effect is different cos i think there's an escape or retreat. i'm thinking of the line about the hall.

― youn, Monday, 28 March 2005 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

SUCK! Heavy Heavy Heavy AWESOME!

― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Monday, 28 March 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

"Lovenest".. for that middle section, and then the 2 minutes of amp noise that sets up the segue to "Corduroy"

― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 28 March 2005 07:48 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

It's now "Corduroy" - the last 50 seconds of the song...YEAH!

― van igloo (van smack), Sunday, 16 April 2006 22:49 (twenty years ago)

Scratch that. I now think it's "Octopussy"

― van igloo (van smack), Sunday, 16 April 2006 23:02 (twenty years ago)

ten months pass...

Scratch that, now it's "Blonde".

― Bimble, Sunday, 11 March 2007 00:44 (nineteen years ago)

Honestly, I was never enthralled with Steve Albini's production on this Gedge's vocals are buried too far down and much prefer the Peel Session versions.

Oh, and it's gotta be "Corduroy".

― Mr. Odd, Sunday, 11 March 2007 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

four years pass...

"Dalliance"! Er, then "Rotterdam".

― Come and get it with King (G'Day) Boy (G'Day) Pato (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 4 September 2011 13:02 (fourteen years ago)

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