ONE ALBUM somebody who "hates" [AN ARTIST] should hear

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Frank Zappa - Sheik Yerbouti

― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Thursday, 21 April 2005 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

David Crosby - If I Could Only Remember My Name

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Thursday, 21 April 2005 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeez, just by the title alone I love it!

― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Thursday, 21 April 2005 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Tool - Lateralus

Mudvayne - Lost and Found

― Kenshin (Kenshin), Thursday, 21 April 2005 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

How would Lateralus convert someone who hates Tool? Doesn't it pretty much epitomize everything they're known for?

― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 21 April 2005 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

How would Lateralus convert someone who hates Tool? Doesn't it pretty much epitomize everything they're known for?

Well, yeah, but I guess that's the point, really, to play one album that really represents everything they have to offer that "is awesome". Know what I mean? Lateralus won't convert anyone who hates it, but that's not the point of this thread necessarily (to me, all Tool sounds EXACTLY THE SAME).

― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Thursday, 21 April 2005 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Frank Zappa - Sheik Yerbouti

GAAAHH -- NOOOOO!
Well... maybe. It was my first FZ album, and it was enough to get me to buy all the rest, but it hasn't been my favorite in 25 years. If I was trying to get a hater to like FZ, I wouldn't recommend any one album, I'd burn my Rough Guide to Zappa for them.

― Curious George (1/6 Scale Model) (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 21 April 2005 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

KISS, Dynasty. Sophisticated and melodic, for those who thought they were capable of neither.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 21 April 2005 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Nebraska - Springsteen
Selling England by the Pound - Genesis

― Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Thursday, 21 April 2005 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Sheik Yerbouti kicks butt, dude. Close enough but too short: One Size Fits All, Apostrophe, Overnite Sensation...

But, Sheik has Flakes, Broken Hearts Are For ASSHOLES (one of my faves), Jones Crusher, Bobby Brown, Baby Snakes, Tryin' To Grow A Chin (AWESOME!), City of Tiny LIghts, DANCIN' FOOL (!!!), Yo Mama... and a whole bunch of great solos and intstrumental oddities that are not over-the-top (which could be considered "annoying")...

It was not the first Zappa I heard, but it was the first Zappa I LOVED. It was the one that convinced me to sift through the rest of the Zappa catalog (and it seems you'd agree on that).

― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Thursday, 21 April 2005 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Paul McCartney - The Lost McCartney Album (original double LP version of McCartney II)

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 21 April 2005 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Overnite Sensation for zappa n00bs, doy.

― Christopher R. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 21 April 2005 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The album that first made me think "hey-now-Zappa-ain't-so-bad-after-all" was Freak Out. Not much else since has impressed me.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 21 April 2005 03:57 (twenty-one years ago)

marillion: marbles
fiona apple: extraordinary machine

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 21 April 2005 05:40 (twenty-one years ago)

------Paul McCartney - The Lost McCartney Album (original double LP version of McCartney II)

Ah, fuck. I'm sad now.

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 21 April 2005 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Smashing Pumpkins - Adore

It worked for me. (Thanks, ILM!)

― Curt (cgould), Thursday, 21 April 2005 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Obvious answer, but if people hated Talk Talk for being skinny-tied New Wave also-rans, they should really hear The Spirit of Eden.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Crosby seconded. One of the best all-purpose records ever made. Great for hazy afternoon olive parties and THC gallery openings.

― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone who hates King Crimson should hear Kansas.

nyuck.

― driede mousedropping (Dave225), Thursday, 21 April 2005 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Fugazi, The Argument

― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 21 April 2005 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Anybody who hates the Dave Matthews Band should hear Under the Table and Dreaming
Anybody who hates R.E.M. should hear Chronic Town
Anybody who hates The Flaming Lips should hear Hit to Death in the Future Head

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 21 April 2005 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Under the Table and Dreaming
Where can one hear this without going out of his way? Because I hate me some DuMB, and I'm still waiting for someone to explain why they're so great.

― driede mousedropping (Dave225), Thursday, 21 April 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoever hates Paul McCartney hates music, and should probably not listen to any other album than their own family album.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 21 April 2005 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

..which is a GREAT segue to plug my upcoming album The Donut Debonair Family album Doughn't Sugar Makes Things A Little Sweeter?... We hope you enjoy it as much as we had making this record. *smiles are for free!* :) :) :)

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 21 April 2005 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

That said, for all the XTC hataz who love that experimental dub shizit: The Dub Experiments (which is really Mr. Partridge's Salvage/Take Away album plus the Go+ EP that came as a bonus with Go 2 back in the day)

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 21 April 2005 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

what if the thing i hate about XTC is their too-self-conscious weirdness?

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Primus-haters, I present unto thee: The Brown Album.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

What if XTC never were being self-consciously weird in the first place?

(They never pretended to be anything other than huge Beefheart and Residents fans anyway, and they come across as quite earnest on all their records despite even that, even on White Music. Quirky? Sure. But self-consciously weird? Uh, no.)

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

The Bangles: All Over the Place (I put "James" on a mix CD last year, and at least five people said "wait, is this the same Bangles? Were they usually this good?")
Yoko Ono: Plastic Ono Band (won't convert most Yoko-haters, but knocked me upside the head the first time I heard it)

― Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Who could actually hate XTC, though?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex, trust me, don't go there. I speak as an XTC fan that's had to explain myself many times. That said, I can easily see why people would detest Andy Partridge's voice, for starters...

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose. I mean, I can see how XTC may not be someone's particular cup of tea, but to HATE them? Seems a bit extreme to me.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Honestly, Alex, I can't see why people would HATE Good Charlotte, as oppose to just blissfully ignore them, myself... but I guess certain things hit our center points of negativity in different ways.

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Fair point, I suppose.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Um... "Hooray for Peter Pumpkinhead," "Dear God, I wrote you a fucking letter" ?!?! Yeah, I can see how someone would hate XTC. But, there are some good songs on one of their albums (which surprised me) that I had a cassette copy of back in high school.

― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoever hates techno/dance in general should listen to "In-Sides" by Orbital

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 21 April 2005 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Momus: Oskar Tennis Champion

― Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 21 April 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Honestly, Alex, I can't see why people would HATE Good Charlotte, as oppose to just blissfully ignore them, myself..

But XTC don't have really loud noisy annoying guitars and really whiny annoying singers.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 21 April 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone who hates electronic music but enjoys experimental indie or similar should check out Dave Seaman's Global Underground Reykjavik double disc. The first wraps Boards of Canada and Ulrich Schnauss in a lush breakbeat sandwich, and the second disc has glittering, gentle-but-not-morr-music-gentle house/trance songs.

Pushing my luck here, but same goes for anyone who thinks Paul Oakenfold is a total waste of space on the planet. His GU NYC Vol.7 album from 1999 has a lot of classy house tracks that anyone who likes downtempo should enjoy.

― Rachel S (rachels), Thursday, 21 April 2005 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

U2: Pop

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 21 April 2005 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

U2: Pop

Ah yes, the one album someone who LOVES U2 shouldn't hear.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

right, exactly. that's how these things tend to work...

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 21 April 2005 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Sleater-Kinney: The Woods (it worked for me)

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Friday, 22 April 2005 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Along similar speaking-from-experience lines: Jay-Z, Reasonable Doubt

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Friday, 22 April 2005 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone who hates YoungMarbleGiants should listen to Colossal Youth

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 22 April 2005 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Foetus - Nail
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Of Natural History
Tom Waits - Nighthawks At The Diner

― John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 22 April 2005 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

you're joking peepee right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 April 2005 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

*smirk*

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

> U2: Pop

> -- joseph cotten (josephcotte...), April 22nd, 2005. (later)

This is very, very correct if you trace back to the original question.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 22 April 2005 04:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Haven't heard an entire LP myself, but many early Osmonds tracks ROCK most astoundingly. As does Bob Seger's Mongrel and Ramblin' Gamblin' Man, or ANY pre-Silver Bullet Band Bob, for that matter.

And though I've said it before, Billy Joel haters definitely should hear that Attila LP. (Altho there's a good chance that they'll hate him even more! But in an entirely new way.)

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 22 April 2005 08:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Rolling Stones: "Their Satanic Majesties"
Kiss: "The Elder"

(Both in the same league as U2's "Pop")

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 22 April 2005 09:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I would've thought Hot Rats was the Zappa album for people who don't like Zappa. Hasn't worked for me, though.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 22 April 2005 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, a lot of people would find Hot Rats boring. Sheik Yerbouti has some great catchy tunes, funny stuff that is actually pretty funny unlike the rest of Zappa's "humor" and a couple of great instrumental moments.

― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Friday, 22 April 2005 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Oddly enough, these were Zappa's only two hit albums in Britain (though the Mothers did have three).

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 22 April 2005 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Yellow Snow was his biggest hit. I think it broke the top 40. When I listen to it, I can't even imagine what people in the 70s were thinking.

― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I never really got Dylan - though my mum's an obsessive. What album would reverse this?

― Huey (Huey), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Same goes for the Stones.

― Huey (Huey), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:22 (twenty-one years ago)

For Dylan - the 1966 live Royal Albert Hall 2CD set, and in particular the second CD with the Band backing him; even as a non-believer I can listen to it and understand all the fuss.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Sonic Youth -- "Dirty."

― Lyra Jane (Lyra Jane), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

For R Stones: Beggars Banquet

― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks:

For Dylan - the 1966 live Royal Albert Hall 2CD set, and in particular the second CD with the Band backing him; even as a non-believer I can listen to it and understand all the fuss.

Just listened to this - "got it" slightly more (if only for the mood of the recording, as opposed to his great worthiness as a lyricist/musician).

For R Stones: Beggars Banquet

Just listened to this - still didn't get it. However, now listening to it backwards (thanks, WaveLab) and I LOVE IT. (And Satan).

― Huey (Huey), Sunday, 24 April 2005 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

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