Trying to find original copies of records in order to avoid bonus stuff

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I saw someone else do this on the OOP thread and was glad I wasn't the only one. Anyone else a member of this club?

So far I've done it with Pavement and The Congos records.

― Steev (Steev), Sunday, 24 April 2005 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I did it once with Orbital's In Sides when they tacked the theme from "The Saint" on the re-issue.

― Failin Huxley (noodle vague), Sunday, 24 April 2005 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"...of albums," that should read.

― Steev (Steev), Sunday, 24 April 2005 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I did this with The Smiths - Meat Is Murder cd, I hunted down the UK Rough Trade one because I didn't want to hear How Soon Is Now all the time. I had it on another cd anyways.

― svend (svend), Sunday, 24 April 2005 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

you can always just burn the tracks from the reissue in their original order onto a CD-R.

― latebloomer: But when the monkey die, people gonna cry. (latebloomer), Sunday, 24 April 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

"Press stop".

Unless you feel that remasteres don't sound as good. Occasionally they are over-normalised, getting that clostrophobic "everything's too loud" feeling. I do tend to normalise everything I mp3 down to about circa '92 levels.

Still, seems an odd club. Unlike a George Lucas situation where elements are being added into the original piece, aren't bonus tracks pretty uniformly stuck at the end of the normal sequence, excepting certain earlier Jazz reissues?

― I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 24 April 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Avoiding the Congos reissue is silly. The sound on the two disc Blood & Fire (I think) is unbelievable.

― stephen morris (stephen morris), Sunday, 24 April 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I'd like to get a SST copy of Sonic Youth's Evol just so I don't have to hear "Bubblegum" at the end.

― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 24 April 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'm not just the president-- I'm also a member."

Albums ruined by bonus tracks

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Sunday, 24 April 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

actually, i value sound over sequencing (except for extreme cases), so I just buy the re-master with bonus tracks and suck up my neuroses..

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Sunday, 24 April 2005 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought all versions of Evol have Bubblegum tacked on.

http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/lp/lp4.html

what would've been nice is to have the xpressway loop play for the remainder of the CD.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not much a fan of reissues that stick "single" versions and 12" versions of songs already on the album. Some of the demo tracks are pretty garbage too; I guess I'm more a fan of the finished product than the journey?

― Steev (Steev), Sunday, 24 April 2005 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, stereo and mono tracks too. It never really adds to my experience.

― Steev (Steev), Sunday, 24 April 2005 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't normalisation just a measure of overall volume? If you normalize things down you're only reducing the quality are you not? Don't you mean compression? That's what people usually moan about. If that is what you mean, I don't think it would be possible to decompress an mp3.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Sunday, 24 April 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

The only time I could ever fathom buying an original copy of a record is when all remasters/reissues have been shite. (The Who Sings My Generation and The Moody Blues' Days of Future Passed come immediately to mind.)

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Monday, 25 April 2005 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I did mean compression/dynamic gain, and you're right that normalising down (or up, if from vinyl) doesn't fix any clostrophobia--but it does prevent my ears from being blasted if I've got tracks from different vintages play sequentially (say, on random). Still, I find that there are more improvements via remastering (2nd time+ on CD) than there are losses of quality, so I tend to prefer newer remasters. The only time I ever personally feel I'm encountering over-compression is on newly recorded music, especially hip-hop. I assume modern radio rock/pop is mastered this way consistently, but I don't hear much of that sort of music.

― I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 25 April 2005 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I assume modern radio rock/pop is mastered this way consistently, but I don't hear much of that sort of music.

You're lucky - brick-wall limiting is a tool of the devil.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 25 April 2005 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I still want a Mrs Robinson-less It's a Shame about Ray.

― wombatX (wombatX), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

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