John Prine: C or D? (plus RFI: new album)

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I only got his 2CD a few weeks ago, totally unaware that his first CD of originals in years was coming out this year. Anybody heard it yet?

Oh, and classic classic classic.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 00:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I only have the Sweet Revenge album. And I love it. Classic.

buck van morrison (Buck Van Smack), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 00:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Easy classic.

Roadkill Bingo (Roadkill Bingo), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 01:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

we did at least one other john prine thread, i think...

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 01:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yeah, prine vs. newman. I am not reviving it cuz I love both.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 01:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

C

earinfections (Nick Twisp), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 02:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Classic. 'Sweet Revenge' is my favorite, though 'Storm Windows' is right up there, too. I think 'Bruised Orange' falls down on its last two tracks; otherwise, it's also brilliant. He's pretty awesome. I love that Roger Miller is one of his major influences.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 03:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ok, well, classic obv.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 04:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yah. Spotted him from a 3rd story window in Georgetown, DC a few years back and ran down to do the whole hand-shake thing. (Made easier by having seen his show the previous night.) Just your average humble genius songwriting legend -- from what I could tell -- who needed some advice on where to eat. Nothing special.

Classic. From here to there up, down and sideways.

Evanston Wade (EWW), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 04:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The, uh, "King of the Road"/"Kansas City Star" Roger Miller, that is.

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Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 06:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Classic and classy. I mostly know his famous songs, the ones on all the compilations, but his Christmas album's also good, and the duets album he put out a few years back is great (especially the songs he did with Iris DeMent, whose voice is a good match with his).

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 06:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Classic, with no reservations.

The first record is a masterpiece, and next two are very fine. In Spite Of Ourselves (the duet record) is also excellent.

Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 12:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Classic. His voice sometimes bothers me, but the songs are wonderful.

Lyra Jane (Lyra Jane), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 12:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i'd just like to say that i just "got" john prine last week. it finally made an impact on me. i get it now, people! where is my medal!?

katie hasty (katie, a princess), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

My dad's favourite singer (since my dad doesn't mess around with terms like "singer-songwriter"), so I grew up with him, but didn't "get" him beyond being fascinated with the wordplay until I was about 22.
Stone cold genius. "Quiet Man" is one of my all time favourite songs.
I have a weird affection for Common Sense, too. Esp. "Saddle in the Rain."

Huk-L, Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Definitely classic. That 2 CD set you got is one of my favorite comps ever by anyone. The version of "Angel From Montgomery" on there is probably one of two or three intentionally maudlin songs that really gets to me every single time I hear it (and I have heard it a lot). I'd agree with whoever said Sweet Revenge is his best, miccio; you should get that for "Mexican Home" and "Grandpa Was a Carpenter" alone (it's the album that has xmas in prison, blue umbrella, sweet revenge, and please don't bury me from the comp). For more recent stuff, I think the place to start is the live album from the mid 90s, which I think is just called "Live on Tour."

I picked up the new one yesterday and its...about what you'd expect if you've heard the last few things he's done. It's pretty much just straightforward PrineRock. Lots of roots flourishes and pretty straightforward lyrics. I wouldn't really reccomend buying it unless you already have pretty much all his other stuff. This probably sounds like a slam, but it's not, I LIKE the record, but it's not sounding like an essential album to me right now.

I can't relate to whoever said they had a problem with his voice. His voice is what makes it for me, even when the songs are a little shaky, as they have been lately. Seeing him on the 21st here in Seattle, couldn't be more excited.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

God this really makes me wish I had that set at work right now. I could really go for some "Fish and Whistle."

P.S. The "Anti-War" song on the new album, predictably, is awful awful awful.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"Angel From Montgomery", when he says, "I am an old woman," you believe him.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Well, I got my window shield so filled
With flags I couldn't see.
So, I ran the car upside a curb
And right into a tree.
By the time they got a doctor down
I was already dead.
And I'll never understand why the man
Standing in the Pearly Gates said...

"But your flag decal won't get you
Into Heaven any more.
We're already overcrowded
From your dirty little war.
Now Jesus don't like killin'
No matter what the reason's for,
And your flag decal won't get you
Into Heaven any more."

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That's definitely another song that should've made it into the anthology.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"While digestin' Readers' Digest at the back of the dirty book store"

Huk-L, Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It's really his wit that made him an instant favorite for me. I loved him the second I heard "Bowl of oatmeal tried to stare me down...and won."

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The thing about that is that, especially on those first few albums, his comic timing was really hot too. Especially that line. And then when he stretches out "Personally" geez!

Huk-L, Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Love him. "Christmas in Prison" is one of the most beautiful songs in the world.

rebecca s (rebecca S), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...
No love for The Missing Years here? One of his best inmho.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Saturday, 21 January 2006 06:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The Missing Years was my first, and I loved it immediately. One of my favorite lyricists ever. Yet my fave album of his might be In Spite of Ourselves, which is all covers but one. Go figure.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 21 January 2006 07:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

in spite of ourselves is great, partly because it showcases his singing, so loose and grizzled and funny, and the duet partners are all really good. that album makes me happy like few things.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 21 January 2006 07:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

He's got grate taste in covers too, that's another reason why that album is so great. All those songs are gems.

Keith C (lync0), Saturday, 21 January 2006 15:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

So where do I start?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 21 January 2006 16:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

In Spite of Ourselves is genius. And the one original is probably my favorite song on there. I always think about compiling of a CD of the originals, which I'm sure somebody has done. I'm just lazy when it comes to small projects like that.

TRG (TRG), Saturday, 21 January 2006 16:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'd start where I started, with The Missing Years. Sins of Memphisto and, of course, Jesus, The Missing Years, makes it worthwhile, but it's all really good - he does everything so effortlessly, so charmingly...he really makes it look easy. And then you listen to half a dozen other...ahem...singer songwriters and you see that isn't. He was good from the getgo - his first album 'John Prine' (at least I assume it's his first album) is excellent.

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Saturday, 21 January 2006 16:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Can't go wrong with the first album (s/t)

Keith C (lync0), Saturday, 21 January 2006 17:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I would start with the Rhino anthology Great Days. It covers up thru the Missing Years. Then get In Spite of Ourselves and Lost Dogs and Mixed Blessings and his latest Fair and Square and you probably have all the Prine you MAY need. Then again maybe the thing to do is just get the debut and go from there.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Sunday, 22 January 2006 04:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I am so psyched, got great seats for Prine in concert here. Anyone here seen him lately? I am assuming he plays a lot off the new album, which is ok with me as I love it.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Saturday, 4 February 2006 04:53 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I was really glad to see Prine won the Contemp Folk Album award over Springsteen and others at the Grammys this year. I also loved his comment that beating was not what was great about it, the fact that he beat Columbia and his record company has 3 employees is what he liked. Sometimes the good guys finish first.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Friday, 10 February 2006 05:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Sorry meant to say that beating Springsteen was not what was great about it. Bedtime.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Friday, 10 February 2006 05:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
If you don't find "Hello in There" touching, you are probably a heartless bastard.

M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 18:35 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I've lately fallen in love with the glossy sounds of Common Sense.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 18:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Thanks everyone. I bought the eponymous in February. It's fantastic: a human low-key Dylan, with a folksy humor that's from cloying.

I may get the '90s album produced by the Heartbreaker next.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I've lately fallen in love with the glossy sounds of Common Sense.
-- Huk-L (handsomishbo...), July 25th, 2006.

I have a weird affection for Common Sense, too. Esp. "Saddle in the Rain."
-- Huk-L (handsomishbo...), April 27th, 2005.

Lately is a word I seldom use (correctly).

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

that album from last year was pretty great, and the first track on it makes me cry like a child

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 21:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I've been listeing to Diamonds in the Rough a lot recently, the oddly neglected classic. "Souvenirs." "Rocky Mountain Time."

"The waitress yelled at me. So did the food."

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Thursday, 27 July 2006 11:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
"Saddle in the Rain" is so classic. And Rebecca S is OTM about "Christmas in Prison."

clotpoll (Clotpoll), Sunday, 1 October 2006 20:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

DITR: "I Guess They Oughta Name a Drink After You."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 2 October 2006 04:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Classic. Classic, classic.
It was 12 o'clock before I realized I was having no fun.

wolfwolfwolf (wolfwolfwolf), Monday, 2 October 2006 04:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"All the Best," from The Missing Years, is one of my gold standards for lyric writing. It's absolutely perfect.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 2 October 2006 12:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

finally got The Missing Years. Not at the level of the s/t or Storm Windows, but the production glitz (John Mellencamp co-write) suits him.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 27 January 2008 20:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

He also co-wrote Mellencamp's "Jackie O" on the great great great Uh Huh.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Monday, 28 January 2008 06:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

So you went to a party with Jacqueline Onassis
If you're so smart, girl, why don't you wear glasses
So you can see what you're doin' to me

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Monday, 28 January 2008 06:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

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Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 January 2008 11:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

The one from a year or two back, Fair and Square? Outstanding. Has held up, gets deeper every time I've listened since the week it came out.

J0hn D., Sunday, 8 June 2008 05:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

so are any of the eighties albums worth owning in their entirety? I heard "Maureen, Maureen," liked it a lot.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 12:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

I think German Afternoons is worth owning. It's got one of his most fun songs - "Let's Talk Dirty in Hawaiian". I like Aimless Love too, it's got a great singalong about a family falling to the bottom of a bottomless lake. Oh and that's the album with "Maureen, Maureen" on it.

erasingclouds, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 14:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

I've acquired more and more, Sweet Revenge the latest. "Blue Umbrella" and "A Good Time" are as funny and sharp as songwriting get.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 28 September 2008 14:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

he's also prime Sunday morning music.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 28 September 2008 14:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5174X5AJ9PL.jpg

Perfect record.

ian, Sunday, 28 September 2008 16:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

...but really sad at times.

QuantumNoise, Sunday, 28 September 2008 16:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

I find a certain comfort in that, but my wife simply has to reject Prine when she's not in the right mood.

QuantumNoise, Sunday, 28 September 2008 16:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

Nobody's gonna say a bad word about the guy? Fine. Let me do it.

I can't do it.

He's too awesome. Nobody can do more with three chords and a two-note melody. The Missing Years and the Great Days comp plus the debut just about did it for me for a decade and a half, but lately I'm feeling the need to own 'em all in their entirety.

(Even "Let's Talk Dirty in Hawaiian" -- not my favorite of his songs, particularly as he misses an opportunity to use the best pun ever: "lack-o-nookie" as a Hawaiian word...)

staggerlee, Sunday, 28 September 2008 22:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

love this guy

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 05:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

(did anyone ever see daddy and them? is it terrible?)

us_odd_bunny_lady (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 05:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

better than bob dylan

THERE I SAID IT

pies. (gbx), Sunday, 25 July 2010 05:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

It may have been the Nanci Griffith duet version of "Speed of the Sound of Loneliness" that finally made me notice him, but after seeing him with his great small band, and hearing various live albums and reissues from his independent label, I would pay whatever to see him play anywhere.

When I did see him, it was a high ticket price benefit for M.D. Anderson (where he underwent cancer treatment). I was in tears several times throughout the evening. "Sam Stone" in particular.

here's a version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tafy0RVXNOo&feature=related

making posts (Zachary Taylor), Sunday, 25 July 2010 08:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

^

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Sunday, 16 January 2011 07:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

love John Prine so much. ..

actually had to *leave* his concert -- after TWO hours -- this last march because, if I didn't, I would miss the last train (John played a concert at the high school suburb where he grew up. Maywood. awesome show. John talked and talked and talked. but what great stories!! the GREATEST stories. basically, a history of the evolution of suburban Chicago. and i am not even talking about the songs, I am talking about his introductions and his stories and perspective on the whole weird history, and his rise to fame, and his relationship with Roger McGruinn ... geez, but yeah, at a certain point, after 2+ hours, I had to check out .. I needed to catch the last train back from Maywood into Chicago, else I'dve been stranded ... John Prine, I love you man

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 16 January 2011 08:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

this guy is really good at song titles
"the oldest baby in the world"
"he was in heaven before he died"
"aw heck"
etc.

also "hello in there" has got to be one of the most depressing songs

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 22 September 2011 16:41 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm only listening to the s/t right now. i think maybe i should gradually make my way chronologically through his oeuvre, or at least the classic years.

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 22 September 2011 16:41 (six years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

so this local bar has had an annual John Prine singalong for years and years now, and I finally made it down for the first time in like a decade. this guy has so many hidden gems... "Talk Dirty In Hawaiian" and "Unwed Mothers" and "The Speed Of The Sound Of Loneliness" all blew me away. I guess I need more than the perfunctory Prime Prine LP.

I have a vivid memory of watching some film in elementary school in the 70's and it was about how old people are people too and we should be nice to them, and the theme music was "Hello In There".

sleeve, Thursday, 2 January 2014 19:00 (four years ago) Permalink

He's one of those rare songwriters (like Richard Thompson?) hampered by being too good for too long. Where do you start? Where do you *stop*? I can see why Prine may be an imposing rabbit hole.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 January 2014 20:37 (four years ago) Permalink

aren't those from his mid eighties albums? The only ones I don't own.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 January 2014 20:40 (four years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

enjoying the hell out of this beat-up Sweet Revenge LP right now

gonna check out the duets album next... I have all the 70's LPs now.

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 01:27 (three years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Happy birthday, dude!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 October 2015 20:46 (two years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

hello in there is killing me tonight

dynamicinterface, Thursday, 19 November 2015 02:18 (two years ago) Permalink

He's incredible

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 19 November 2015 11:52 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

New album out April 13!

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Thursday, 8 February 2018 15:36 (six months ago) Permalink

woah, gorgeous song!

Simon H., Thursday, 8 February 2018 16:46 (six months ago) Permalink

"Egg & Daughter Nite, Lincoln Nebraska, 1967 (Crazy Bone)"

na (NA), Thursday, 8 February 2018 16:57 (six months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

I don't know how indelible it will turn out to be, but parts of the new album sound really nice.

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:40 (four months ago) Permalink

Summer's End is a new classic, either way.

bzfgt, Thursday, 12 April 2018 18:58 (four months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

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