Questions for Jeff Mangum

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I've been back in touch with Jeff from Neutral Milk Hotel lately and he seems in pretty good spirits. After a few months of emailing back and forth, I finally broached ths ubject of doing an interview since we both had a good time doing that back in '97/ '98 and in that interim have spoken intermittently of doing it again...

Anyway, to start with at least, I have 7 questions to ask the man, via email. I want to send them to him quickly. This is serious, but I am really curious to see your smart-ass replies! Thanks.

Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Saturday, 7 May 2005 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Could you ask him if he is going to release the rarities comp anytime or if he has scrapped that?

buck van morrison (Buck Van Smack), Saturday, 7 May 2005 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

By his own description he found himself inspired by many obscure/off-beat/cult artists he discovered in a college radio station, I seem to remember -- he now finds himself one of them in turn. So how does it feel, or is it just strange to him?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 May 2005 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Will he ever make another album?
And is he ever tempted to track down the Decemberists guy and give him a swift kick in the babymaker?

On a Strict El Cholo Diet (Bent Over at the Arclight), Saturday, 7 May 2005 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a good question, Ned.

I can't seem to come up with anything right now.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 7 May 2005 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Ben, you ask that last question of everyone.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 May 2005 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, three good questions all so quickly -- esp. that one from ned -- i'm glad i asked y'all! thanks.

there is some stuff i don't really know how to broach, particularly his withdrawal from "the public" after essentially being stalked by a bunch of fucking loons who flocked to athens after the release of "aeroplane" and made his life a nightmare simply because they liked his music so much they had to be near him.

i remember at first being really amazed/ impressed when nmh toured behind that album how the audience was singing along in unison to most songs almost louder than he was -- in retrospect i find it creepy.

because he's my pal, i have a very un-journalistic attitude towards this subject, you know? like, there's details i'd never print that any pitchforker would be dying to let the world know, out of a simple desire to see him not stalked by little indie-loons anymore. so that's partly why i ask for help -- it can be hard to have perspective when you feel so close/ protective, i guess.

Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Saturday, 7 May 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, three good questions all so quickly -- esp. that one from ned -- i'm glad i asked y'all! thanks.

You're quite welcome! Weird thing is I'm *not* a hyperfan by any means, don't even own the albums but one or two songs were extremely good. But I remember him mentioning that in a story many years back and thought, "Hm, shoe being on the other foot now, what's his take?"

Yeah, the whole bizarro cult of him was *crazy*...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 May 2005 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't have a question, but i have been listening to Jeff a lot lately -- particularly "Live at Jittery Joe's" and a bunch of live mp3s I've come across. The thing that strikes me the most (aside from the lyrics, obviously) is his voice. Really quite powerful in a way that doesn't come across on his studio records (which I love).

I'd be interested to know about the status of the rarities comp also. "Oh Sister" and "Little Birds" alone deserve wide release. Jeff was/is truly an incredible talent.

By the way, did anyone see that Rolling Stone right before the invasion of Iraq where they asked musicians what they thought of the impending war.....and they actually had a comment from Jeff saying how one shouldn't rush to decry to the war. I was taken aback not only that he seemed to be wavering about violence (when so much of Aeroplane was about the effects of war) but b/c it was the first public comment I'd read from him in years.

PB, Saturday, 7 May 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

is he ever tempted to track down the Decemberists guy and give him a swift kick in the babymaker

After that would he then call Robyn Hitchcock to come violate his own babymaker or does the violence stop at your own limited knowledge?

Garibaldianne (Garibaldianne), Saturday, 7 May 2005 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

That's sort of a bizarre comparison, and I like both artists. Aid my limited knowledge--which albums give you the feeling that Mangum apes his style from Hitchcock, esp. so directly he'd be part of a violence chain?

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 7 May 2005 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that Meloy sounds a bit like, and uses similar verbage to, Hitchcock. Especially "I often dream of trains" era Hitchcock. Mind you, I don't think Meloy is ripping him off, at all. Certainly no more than Hitchcock ripped off Barrett. Logical progression and all that.

There are a lot of lazy journalist who say Meloy is ripping off Mangum, I think that's bullshit. Anyone with an ounce of musical knowledge can hear a bunch of Hitchcock influence in Decemberists. I am trying to point out that if Meloy is ripping off Mangum, then Mangum must be ripping off Hitchcock.

I don't believe anyone is ripping off anyone. Rather, lazy people are parroting lazy journalist in saying that Meloy is ripping off Mangum.

I've asked this on other boards: Please tell me exactly which NMH song I should put on to hear the Decemberists blueprint. I really, really want to know. It possible it's out there, but no one has ever ponied up and answered this direct question (and make sure the NMH song in question doesn't sound like Hitchcock or the Soft Boys, cause, y'know)...anyone?

Garibaldianne (Garibaldianne), Saturday, 7 May 2005 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

To be more direct: I guess I would be asking the "On a Strict El Cholo Diet" guy, which song is the rip off, or are you a parrot?

Garibaldianne (Garibaldianne), Saturday, 7 May 2005 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

lately I've heard more NMH influence in pre-"Black Sheep Boy" Okkervil River than anything the Decemberists have done.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Saturday, 7 May 2005 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

it would be nice to hear jeff talk about that 'orange twin field works' disc that he released, of field recordings from Bulgaria. i only just heard it but damn, it's fantastic.

jwd, Saturday, 7 May 2005 08:11 (twenty-one years ago)

FWIW I was friends with Jeff in the early nineties when I lived in Louisiana. I can never once recall seeing a Hitchcock record in his collection or him even mentioning him once and the guy (JM) lived and breathed music at the time. Not to say he didn't discover Hitchcock later on but his songwriting was largely developed by the time I left there in late 95.
I find it similar to how his first single, Everything Is was described in one of it's first reviews (either in the CMJ or Puncture) as sounding like The Jesus and Mary Chain and seemingly every subsequent review or reference there after made the same inference. I also remember him asking me what the Jesus and Mary Chain sounded like as he'd never heard them. So much for a big influence.
As for the Decembrists connection it seems very slight to me other than a similar vocal quality. The two songwriting styles seem very different to these ears be that good or bad.
Oh and to the person interviewing him do ask him if were ever gonna have a Clay Bears reunion, that should be a nice icebreaker.

dbricks, Saturday, 7 May 2005 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

ok u got me curious now - like how crazy were these fans? i didn't know about that, but i'm sure he was giving a voice finally to all these misunderstood folks who ever thought about boys in jars and flesh licking fetuses or whatever he says. i'm curiuos if that is really why he left public eye tho....he's so talented, yet i could never imagine how his career would have evolved tempered by maturity etc. i don't know if that is a rude question, but just curious if he was making some sort of difficult artistic transition during that time and not only wanted to depart from some of his fans but also from that early style of adolescent angst type songs aka where you can almost sense/smell the sex, sadness, anger, magic of just being alive. as good as it was, couldn't see how it would have kept up into adulthood. even the rest of elephant 6 have kinda suffered from staying in that mode too long- IMO. he seems too talented to make same mistake.

hopefully not a rude question

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Saturday, 7 May 2005 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Does he find it funny that so many people (or was it just me) think his name is Magnum? I mean, I did for years and years.

I can't think of any really serious questions. But, I look forward to reading the interview at some future date.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 7 May 2005 09:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, and hard "g" or soft "g"? I never knew.

That Orange Twin Field Works thing is indeed great, I listen to it way more than ITAOTS (which is one of those records I love so much I'm almost afraid to go back). I'd be interested in knowing if he'll put out more such stuff....

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Saturday, 7 May 2005 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Please ask him some questions about Seattle.

I'm curious to know why he moved there, where he lived - like what neighborhood - and what effect Seattle had on him. From what I've read, Jeff did not play out much while in the Pacific Northwest. Yet the region plays such a pivotal role in NMH's development. Nancy Ostrander of Seattle's Cher Doll label first released a NMH record; NMH recorded at YoYo Studios in Olympia and played 1994's YoYo-A-GoGo; and Tullycraft name-dropped them in "Pop Songs Your New Boyfriend's Too Stupid To Know About" at least a year before On Avery Island. So it's clear that Jeff had at least a small group of supporters in Seattle, yet that part of his career has been ignored. I'm also curious to know who was in the Seattle NMH lineup - did he have a regular group of musicians by that point? Did he ever play any shows besides YoYo?

mike a, Saturday, 7 May 2005 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

By the way, did anyone see that Rolling Stone right before the invasion of Iraq where they asked musicians what they thought of the impending war.....and they actually had a comment from Jeff saying how one shouldn't rush to decry to the war. I was taken aback not only that he seemed to be wavering about violence (when so much of Aeroplane was about the effects of war) but b/c it was the first public comment I'd read from him in years.

That's true, but much of Aeroplane's commentary was toward Anne Frank, or what he imagined her life to be during the war. I never got a "war is bad" vibe from Aeroplane. He says he wanted "some kind of time machine" to save her; perhaps he thought that she would have died even sooner if not for the Allies.

mike a, Saturday, 7 May 2005 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post

Robyn Hitchcock and Jeff Mangum do not sound alike, nor is there songwriting even remotely similar.

Colin Meloy and Jeff Mangum have slightly similar-sounding voices, but that's where the similarities end.

Sometimes music sounds similar to other music. Sometimes it doesn't.
You'll get used to it.

cdwill, Saturday, 7 May 2005 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess this won't be answered (thanks to those POS obsessive fans) but I would like to know if he's ever going to make another record, or even if he's at least still writing/playing folk music even to himself.

I can completely understand and sympathize with him on the stalkers. Poor guy...

nobody, Sunday, 8 May 2005 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd ask him if he's seen William Schaff's awful-beautiful fine art reactions to his work.

Sean M (Sean M), Sunday, 8 May 2005 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd be curious to hear about how much he kept track of the growing myths about neutral milk hotel after he stopped performing. He posted on at least a message board or two which meant had to be SOMEWHAT cognizant of what was going on. Was it gratifying to know there was this burgeoning admiration for his music? Did he feel guilty about it? Does he feel the pressure now to live up these expectations?

MerkinMuffley (MerkinMuffley), Monday, 9 May 2005 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Garibaldianne, if you are attempting to suggest that Colin Meloy's singing voice does not sound an awful lot like Jeff Magnum's quite distinctive singing voice, you've taken the concept of "limited knowledge" to striking new heights.
We don't even need to bring Robyn and Co. into this.

On a Strict El Cholo Diet (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 9 May 2005 06:05 (twenty-one years ago)

dbricks, I think it was Meloy being said to have been influenced by Hitchcock, not Mangum. by the way, anyone interested in that topic should check out the Jukebox Jury I ran recently with Meloy, by McGonigal's friend and mine, Mark Baumgarten: http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0511/050316_music_jukebox.php

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 9 May 2005 06:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice article, Matos. The bit on Bright Eyes was brutal!

Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 9 May 2005 06:14 (twenty-one years ago)

wow. what a great concept for an interview.. do you guys do that a lot? (matos, i mean)

poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 9 May 2005 06:32 (twenty-one years ago)

alla friggin' time--the above-linked has a box at the bottom w/several others.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 9 May 2005 06:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Darnielle: It’s the Fall! Didn’t recognize it ’til the voice came in. But is there any song in the history of indie music that’s been more sung by people while wandering around their houses by themselves, with no music playing? “Hip Priest-uh!”

that is fucking hilarious.. i swear to god I was listening to the Peel session of "Hip Priest" on the most recent Slates re-issue earlier, and afterwards I was just kind of bumming around my apt., doing dishes going "HeeEEee IIiiIiss NooOOott.... Uh-PREe.SHE-A-TED." hahaha

poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 9 May 2005 07:05 (twenty-one years ago)

(wait. those are the lyrics, right? He is not appreciated? oh well..)

poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 9 May 2005 07:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah those are the lyrics. I got my last clean dirty shirt outta the wardrobe...

Nice interview. But the concept belongs to The Wire, right? I don't understand, does it predate their own "Invisible Jukebox"? Isn't it identical?

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 9 May 2005 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)

the concept predates the wire

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 9 May 2005 08:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, yeah, concepts are hard to date... by "it" I was referring to "Jukebox Jury" specifically. Whether or not it came first.

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 9 May 2005 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok, this is kinda cowinky-dinky. Pitchfork JUST updated with an LCD Soundsystem interview in the same format. (Referring to The Wire version as a "pissing contest" to boot...) Wha—?

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 9 May 2005 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I believe the first mag to use it as a format is Downbeat in the '40s or '50s ("Blindfold Test").

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

the concept predates the wire

One guitar magazine I read as a kid (I think it was Guitar for the Practicing Musician) did it....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

ask him why paypal refuses to take my money so that i can buy the new kicker album off of the track and field website! guh.

keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)

the concept predates the wire

It first appeared in the May 9th, 2005 on-line edition of Pitchforkmedia.com in the form of an interview with LCD Soundsystem frontman James Murphy.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 02:52 (twenty-one years ago)

oh. damn. i didnt' see Gene Scott's post upthread..

poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Did you send your questions to Jeff? Did he respond?

PB, Thursday, 30 June 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
I sent the questions and Jeff... never responded.
Um, oh well?

Thanks for everyone's time and stuff.

yetimike (McGonigal), Thursday, 21 July 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
Garibaldianne, if you are attempting to suggest that Colin Meloy's singing voice does not sound an awful lot like Jeff Magnum's quite distinctive singing voice, you've taken the concept of "limited knowledge" to striking new heights.
We don't even need to bring Robyn and Co. into this.
-On a Strict El Cholo Diet

Yes, that's exactly what I was suggesting. And you will notice that you never provided the specific example I asked for. I have asked this many places; please tell me which NMH song I should go to so that I can hear the exact "voice" or "phrasing" or whatever that Meloy is ripping from Mangum.

That's all. Just the song.

Garibaldianne (Garibaldianne), Sunday, 23 October 2005 04:43 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
Can I bring this back up? What was the decemberists / nmh songs which are so alike, or whatever....

Barney, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:06 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

Will he ever make another album?
And is he ever tempted to track down the Decemberists guy and give him a swift kick in the babymaker?

― On a Strict El Cholo Diet (Bent Over at the Arclight), Friday, May 6, 2005 7:10 PM (5 years ago)

Ben, you ask that last question of everyone.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, May 6, 2005 7:11 PM (5 years ago)

Ned = hero

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 10 March 2011 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

The very best show I've ever seen was NMH , Denver 1998. I haven't seen Jeff play since. I'm hoping (perhaps beyond hope) that I'll get a ticket for LA. I'm just wondering how the shows are - anyone?

Jen Echo, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

I just now realized that his name was not Magnum.

beachville, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:23 (fourteen years ago)


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