Coming In A Girl's Mouth by Momus: classic or dud?

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What is the cultural meaning of coming in a girl's mouth?
Do I wish to feed her or fill her mouth with filth?
Is it just to test whether she accepts my messiest mess
Or simply paint a funny milk moustache across her face?

Or is there in this thrilling ritual something messianic
Some sort of baptism by sperm?
Like my cock is John the Baptist saying
"One day someone greater than me shall come"
Or some Moses who leads an entire nation across her tongue
To liberation

That must be it ..... why else fill a girl's mouth saltily full
With a fluid the consistency of honey, tapioca and motor oil?


slavoj zizek's rugger bugger brother, Monday, 9 May 2005 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

saltily full?

cindy margolis holocaust (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)

bapjizm

willem (willem), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

At a soundcheck once that I saw he turned the lines into "What is the cultural meaning of sipping from a can of Coke?," having received one from the Spaceland staff.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

wtf?

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

a can of coke, presumably?

Although he could have been sparing the Spaceland staff member's blushes?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

But what is the cultural meaning of putting a pubic hair on a can of Coke?

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i believe anita hill.

cindy margolis holocaust (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

classic - one of the only ones by him i know but classic

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

(Note to self: do not drink from Momus's Coke can.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

At the very least it's a bit rude.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

slavoj zizek's rugger bugger brother, that is a truly great name.

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 9 May 2005 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

might be, but zizek himself is a gloating embaressement to philosophy

egon krenz (slaytrack), Monday, 9 May 2005 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

(Note to self: do not drink from Momus's Coke can.)

:)

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Monday, 9 May 2005 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Classic, but not as good as his 'Penis Song':

Buckminster Fuller, inventor of the geodesic dome
Once gave a lecture he entitled 'Everything I know'
Taking the title literally, he spoke four years or so
And I intend to do the same, so make yourself at home
(Pull up a chair, smoke a cigar or something)
Cynthia Plaster Caster once took my cast and showed me
In a penis exhibition in a gallery on Broadway
So many people saw my penis in its glass case
They recognise my penis now before my face

Subject for today: does knowledge elevate or demean us?
Everything you didn't want to know about my penis

A baker has a penis thing for flattening the dough
But stick it in the oven and it rises up, like so
The man who chops the melons up with a long and pointed knife
Has a penis with a mottled skin, I know, I asked his wife
(Very curious)
A priest beneath his cassock has a penis just the same
Some call the hypothalamus the penis of the brain
One man's sport is fly fishing, the other's pocket billiards
Congratulations, Watson, on your almost-Freudian brilliance

The comedian from hell always thinks he can entertain us
With everything we didn't want to know about his penis

Like the heather of the Highlands, mine is tipped with flecks of purple
With a head as wise as Solomon, although shaped like a turtle
It wears a flesh-tone roll-neck and the neck goes up and down
It comes out in the evenings and on Friday paints the town
Obsessively, compulsively, it only wants one thing
To fill your chosen orifice with ropes of pearly string
Delivering its message to your womb or to your tongue
And then going slack and flaccid when its pressing work is done

In witty conversation, by drip or intravenus
I drop everything you didn't want to know about my penis
(Some sort of Tourette Syndrome)

It's a very fine philosopher, debating right and wrong
Shows promise as a songwriter (it writes most of my songs)
Don't bury it in boxer shorts but wear it like a tie
Or avant garde jewellery hanging from your fly
(Very chic!)
Jean Luc Godard once declared, to gales of mystified laughter
That some men wash their hands before they touch it, others after
And if you slot it carefully where the sun will never shine
You'll feel what's mine becoming yours, what's yours becoming mine

Ladies and hermaphrodites, my tender-hearted readers
Everything you didn't want to know about my penis

There was a bohemian monk
Who went to bed in a bunk
He dreamt that Venus
Was stroking his penis
And woke up all covered in .....

Thought for the day: does abstinence dirty us or clean us?
Everything you didn't want to know about my penis

It's a tribute to the power of something otherwise mundane
That waving it under a stranger's nose is said to scar his brain
I'm doing my bit to see the power of taboo remains intact:
I keep a penis on my head but never lift my hat
(I keep a penis on my head but never lift my hat)

And if I've bored you stiff with this riff about my penis
I wouldn't let a little thing like that come between us

And if you can think of another song even more atrocious
Well supercalifragilisiticexpifuckingdocious


Dr Kamal Abbasi, Monday, 9 May 2005 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Ach. Someone yousendit! Oh and if momus is watching, it's not me.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 9 May 2005 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Wasn't this the track that prompted Betty Page to give Hippopotomomus 0/10 in the NME?

Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 May 2005 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a nice little Jack Handy poem but I question whether I need to hear it sung.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 9 May 2005 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Wasn't this the track that prompted Betty Page to give Hippopotomomus 0/10 in the NME?

-- Alba (albab...), May 9th, 2005 11:49 AM. (Alba) (later) (link)

No, I think that was "I Ate a Girl Right Up." Yummy.

J (Jay), Monday, 9 May 2005 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

classy through and through.

latebloomer: the rebel sound of grits and bacon (latebloomer), Monday, 9 May 2005 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

HOTT SLAVOJ ZIZEK WEDDING PHOTOS

http://jdeanicite.typepad.com/i_cite/images/zizek_wedding_2.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 May 2005 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

THATS THE BEST ONE NEXT TO WALTER FUCKIN CARLOS.

The Queen of Cans and Jars (AaronHz), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone that doesn't spell it "cumming" is wussing out.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Add this one to the "songs Xiu Xiu should cover" thread.

j. niimi (litotesia), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 07:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't really get Momus. He writes so well and with a beautifully wry wit on his livejournal. But his lyrics sound pretty awful to my ears - clunky, little sense of rhythm, didactic under the ludic veneer, literal rather than allusive. Sort of what you'd expect some 17 year old who's read a lot of Oscar Wilde to come up with. Maybe I'm missing something, I don't know.

Frank White, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I am not, in any way shape or form a Momus fan. For all his rambling on he just can't pen a good tune.

That piece of writing right there however, is everything I look for in literature. I honestly very truely love it, and respect him for wallowing in a place nobody else goes with such honesty and courage and humor.

Susan Sontag is fuckin dead man, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)

'Coming In A Girl's Mouth' may be dealing with a subject no one else wants to touch, with, as you say, honesty and humour. But perhaps it would have made a better blog entry than a song lyric. 'What is the cultural meaning of coming in a girl's mouth?' is such a poor opener in so many ways. It has no flow, it's essay-ish, it's literal, it's telling and not showing. Although the opener of 'The Penis Song' is so awful that it must be deliberate. Monty Python's penis song is about a million times better than Momus's.

Frank White, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I didn't know they were lyrics. I just thought it was something he wrote.

Yeah, terrible lyrics. Same reason I don't like Zappa.

Susan Sontag is fuckin dead man, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

It's easy to achieve trad power by trad means. You know, evoke a bit of alienation and you've got a Radiohead song, and it's "powerful". What's much more difficult is to ditch the stuff we know works and try something new, naked, direct.

Coming in a Girl's Mouth is part of a batch of songs I wrote in 1998 which were influenced by writing e mail. The idea was to make songs which had the directness and informality of e mails, but also had something 18th century about them (powdered wigs, Alexander Pope, satire and parody, salon poison, snuff, an arch manner). Computers had ushered in a new Enlightenment, something like that. There was a lot of porn and a lot of commentary too. There was Reason and its opposite. So put them together.

The idea was also to incarnate a certain idea of "the European libertine" and heighten it for Americans, and particularly gay Americans (at the time I was angling for the Kiki and Herb audience at Fez, NYC, I think). So I think of this as a rather gay song, despite the hetero context. You know, a song John Waters would have a character sing.

And 1998 was also the Golden Age of bukkake, so that was a natural subject. I remember walking around Chalk Farm with Anthony from Jack, telling him that I'd decided to write a song with that title. It just had to be done. Not only for the sheer outrageousness of it, not only because Primal Scream would never dare write it, but because I really wanted an answer to the question in the first line. What does it mean? How do we feel about it? Why do I like to do it? How do we disentangle love from power, clean from dirty, S from M? It's comedy, but like a lot of comedy it thrives on crisis and isn't too far from the biggest philosophical and psychological questions.

And although the first line is clunky, and the diversion into the John the Baptist stuff loopy, the last line is good poetry, I think: "honey, tapioca and motor oil". (Especially with the gestures when I do the song live: ticky tacky finger gestures, oil-pouring gestures, feigned revulsion.)

One more thing to add: my songs are usually very topical, and this was also the time of the Clinton fellatio scandal. This stuff was in the air during a presidency in which an intern might be given gifts of Nicholson Baker novels and Walt Whitman poems. God, I miss those days!

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, the other thing to say about these songs is that there's no repetition musically. There's no intro, verse, chorus, bridge thing going on. The musical form is given by the structure of the thought expressed. Now, that might seem to make the music subordinate and inferior, but the opposite happens: the music becomes complex. It becomes something closer to lieder than a pop song. The melody wanders and diverges and never returns to anything familiar. In a very short space of time, a couple of minutes, there are so many chords, so many new sections coming along. The trad pop listener expects one of them to become a chorus, a refrain, to get repeated, but that never happens. And, you know, I think people can deal with that level of uncertainty. They don't need mallet-heavy repetition, and when you have variation without repetition it doesn't mean "there's no melody". On the Little Red Songbook album "Coming in a Girl's Mouth" seems like a populist throwaway number, but formally it's one of the most difficult songs on there for this reason. It's purer than most of the other songs in its refusal to repeat any part of its structure.

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It's easy to achieve trad power by trad means. You know, evoke a bit of alienation and you've got a Radiohead song, and it's "powerful".


Can't you simplify ALL art this way?

Susan sontag is is is isi is, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Coming in a girl's mouth by Momus would have to be a dud, because I don't really know the guy and having him standing there would probably make both the girl and I rather uncomfortable. Especially if he were just staring at us, or worse, trying to ignore what's going on...

Oh, wait, you're all talking about the song...nevermind. The song is pretty good.

John Justen (johnjusten), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread is worthless without a YSI.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

what a depressing thought.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

this past weekend i was informed that zizek is very close to the slovenian word for "tit" or "boob"

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Momus, I am so mad at you for the phrase "Golden Age of bukkake".

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I was trying to figure out that one. I guess the prehistory of bukkake was less skilled.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHAHAHA "Oops! I missed."

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It was a fucking mess.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

You kids think you've got it all going on these days, but now, 1998...now THAT was a year for bukkake...

Oh, the sweet stardust memories.

John Justen (johnjusten), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"We really need to establish standards here."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.iso.org/iso/en/ISOOnline.frontpage

Would this fall under "Conformity Assessment"?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

From the online glossary of Theosophy:

"Golden Age. The ancients divided the life cycle into the Golden, Silver, Bronze and Iron Ages. The Golden was an age of primeval purity, simplicity and general happiness."

Therefore, bukkake has fallen from it's former glory into being impure, unhappy, and far too complicated.

Hard to argue, I suppose.

John Justen (johnjusten), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there a subtle complexity to ejaculating on a face that I'm missing here? Are you required to draw pictures now?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, but only simple dot to dot ones at present. Wait till the ridiculous Bronze age for the the real pissing about. Hang on - maybe that's the Golden age of something else. I get confused.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there a subtle complexity to ejaculating on a face that I'm missing here?

http://www.phat5.com/features.asp?StoryID=534&SectionID=11&LayoutType=1&StoryMonth=4&StoryYear=2005

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Ick. Momus is naaaasty.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a whole semiology of controlled splashiness going on in Japanese culture, from baths to calligraphy with bukkake somewhere in the middle of it. It's "controlled abandon", and yes, you can get it wrong. For instance, TKO's Semen Review Page is well worth running through a translation engine. Here are extracts from a typical review:

"the quantity of the semen is many, is. Locking the head of the meeting
? which the face the ? is directed firmly, the ? ? the actor
large number which is applied. The ogre domesticated fowl and animals
(^ ^ it draws ??? being to be good,, but we wanted with the
discharge scene stopping waist errand at least, don't you think? is.

"At large milk of E cup of ???? meeting ? ????. For
the first time, the squid it was possible with ???? to do, so
is. Don't you think? the horseman power it is the rank ? ? applying
last scene. As for the partner the flower Oka ? ? it is. The
flower Oka ? ? it is as for ??? of the person being
???, to see, you answer. The ? ? applying as the normal rank
? ? applying using the same actor, the coming out of the semen is
a little bad, is. But, conversely that at a stroke preventing the fact
that it becomes ???? state, it increases. Disaster changing,
the feeling which you say. The SI grass which the middle, paints the
semen in the self large milk and extends is and is ??. You finish
to per ?? in ????. (The flower Oka semen oven it is it is
dense, is)"

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a whole semiology

*rim shot*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

You should turn that translation into a song, Momus.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

*rim shot*

Wrong part of the body entirely.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

taint that far away

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Taint, indeed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)


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