song ID: obscure hip-hop track from 1990/1991

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just remembered this track I used to have on an old tape of Tim Westwood's show on Capital Radio back in 1990 or thereabouts. i'm pretty sure it's called 'High Noon' as i know the 'chorus' features that phrase more than once. i can't recognise the MC based on memory alone though but definitely American. the only other things i remember is that it starts with industrial 'whistley' noises over the beat and there's a heavy orchestral sound throughout, not a million miles away from Del Tha Funkee Homosapien's 'Catch A Bad One' but much more dramatic.

any ideas? couldn't find any hip-hop tracks from that time by the name of 'High Noon' via google.

― $V£N! (blueski), Monday, 9 May 2005 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Kool Moe Dee "Wild Wild West"?

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 9 May 2005 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

sounds like it could well be that, now to track it down...

― $V£N! (blueski), Monday, 9 May 2005 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

tho looking at the lyrics i don't think that is it.

― $V£N! (blueski), Monday, 9 May 2005 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Wasn't the "Wild Wild West" from 1990 tho?? I thought that was a bit earlier.. No matter.. if ya gots a lead, ya gots a lead.

― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 9 May 2005 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

when you say "industrial 'whistley' noises", what type of whistles? Human whistling? Or train whistling?

― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 9 May 2005 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Rascalz "High Noon"?

― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 9 May 2005 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

(Which would make then NORTH American, as they're from Vancouver...)

― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 9 May 2005 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Never mind.. that's from 1999.

― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 9 May 2005 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

what type of whistles? Human whistling? Or train whistling?

more like factory steam whistles. the Rascalz one is too recent alas (xpost).

― $V£N! (blueski), Monday, 9 May 2005 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"Hang Em' High" by Ice Cube's buddy KAM?

― Neil Kulkarni, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Which came out in 93 I reckon. Duh. Sorry.

― Neil Kulkarni, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not "Wild Wild West" - that has no orchestral sound to it at all. A few years later there's Jeru the Damaja's "Black Cowboys" that kinda sorta fits the bill - it's got a bullet ricochet sample in the beat. Not "Wild Cowboys" by Sadat X, I think, or "Cowboys" by Fugees and Outsidaz. Hmmmm....

Man, you could do a pretty good mix disc of Oater-themed rap songs now that I think about it.

Lemme know if you figure it out - sounds pretty great.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The "high noon" bit wasn't a DJ scratched GZA line by any chance?

― JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I don't have the Shadow Preemptive Strike release, so I can't tell you what he's doing there, but there are a couple of tracks called "High Noon" on that, so perhaps "High Noon" is just one of those slightly-obscure sample/scratch points amongst a lot of downtempo/hip-hop artists? and perhaps this track just happens to be the source of it?

― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess what I'm saying is: if there's a website out there dedicated to trainspotting all of DJ Shadow's samples (and I wouldn't be surprised if there was), maybe there's a sample list for "High Noon" (parts 1 or 2) and you can dig from there...

― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

That Shadow track is from WAY WAY later than 1990.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The "high noon" bit wasn't a DJ scratched GZA line by any chance?

Too early for GZA no? Although funnily enough the production of the track was quite proto Wu-Tang.

the DJ Shadow 'High Noon' is nothing like the one I'm thinking of, as in no direct sample or anything.

I fear I will never know what it was because it's possible that the lyrics were a freestyle over a different track or something.

― $V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I know the Shadow track is way later than 1990, but I was hypothesizing that maybe something he *sampled* was the thing $V£N! is tracking down, given the name of the song and everything, but $V£N! knows the song, and I don't, and he dismissed the possibility.. so scratch that.

― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

$V£N!.. you wanna YSI a digitized portion of it?

― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i would if i still had any recording of it at all :(

― $V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

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