Recommend some jazz to me, please

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Last week, I picked up two jazz albums: "Bing With a Beat", an album where Bing Crosby sings with the Bob Scobey Frisco Jazz Band, and "New Tricks", where he sings with the Buddy Cole Trio. To-date, I'd only heard Bing sing with an orchestra, and whilst I've always adored his voice, despite the strings occasionally being too lovesick for my taste, he sings even better on both of these albums. You can hear how much he's enjoying the accompaniment; and I have developed a real appetite to hear more like The Bob Scobey Frrisco Jazz Band and Buddy Cole, with or without a singer. Any suggestions?

Bluebird, Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I know dick about jazz, but I'd suggest....

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002AGN.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Nat King Cole trio?

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Maceo and all the kings men- Doing their own thing

Eva van Rein (Gaia1981), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, and Thelonious Monk-At the blackhawk

Eva van Rein (Gaia1981), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Charles Mingus "Black Saint and the Sinner Lady"
Charles Mingus "Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus"
Jimmy Giuffre "Free Fall"

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I got some of the Nat King Cole, somewhere, in Best Of form.

I suppose what I want, really, is to discover something a little less obvious - something I wouldn't have stumbled on in my local HMV or Virgin. A real gem. I've always known that I don't tend to appreciate contemporary jazz (Derek Bailey being one of the few exceptions), but until I got these two albums, I didn't realise how much I like this kind of crashing, euphoric, ditsy piano, jazz, whatever it is (I don't even know what sort of jazz style it is known as: New Orleans Style, Swing Style, Bepop Style, Cool Jazz, Hard Bop Style??).

I
don't even know where to

Bluebird, Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"I
don't even know where to"

Ignore that strange little tape worm hangin' out of the arse of my previous post!

Bluebird, Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

These may be obvious, but they're more in the vein of what you're talking about, maybe...

"Bing Crosby and Some Jazz Friends" has more of Crosby with jazz backing
Fred Astaire "Jazz Time" is a great record Astaire made in the 50s backed by an all-star jazz band
And you might try Fats Waller.

Not Thaat Chuck, Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know if it's exactly what you're looking for, but here are some great contemporary New Orleans jazz albums:

Leroy Jones, Mo' Cream from the Crop
Bob French, The Legacy Lives On
Mark Braud, Shake It and Break It

It almost sounds like you want something campy, though?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i'll second the fred astaire, also early billy holiday and ella stuff.
don't worry about whether it's obvious or not, it's great music.
also, roland kirk has a pretty good balance between freaky wayout grooves and crashing, euphoric, somewhat ditzpop elements. you'd probably like mingus too. also sun ra.
also, duke ellington is great.
have fun.

m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

You might like the Tony Bennett and Bill Evans album.

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks very much for your suggestions thus far.
Just checked out samples of some of the suggestions on Amazon.com. Roland kirk - rather too loungey for me
Mingus - too beatniky, reminded me of the stoned and groovey Faustian scene in Joseph Losey's "The Servant". Not for me, although I can hear that it is wonderfully accomplished playing. Do I want Campey, as Jordan put it? Hmm, possibly. I would say it was a debonaire campness I'm after - breezey counterpoints and swagger. Oustide of jazz what I normally like are things like The Incredible String Band, Ivor Cutler, Marty Feldman (which is jazzy, come to think of it), Loft.

xpost I absolutely love Tony Bennett.

Bluebird, Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Roland kirk - rather too loungey for me

xpost I absolutely love Tony Bennett.

You are a weird dude.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 May 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

John Lurie?

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 12 May 2005 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Roland kirk - rather too loungey for me
xpost I absolutely love Tony Bennett.
You are a weird dude.

Yes, I see why it would appear like I'm contradicting myself, but I'm not saying I don't like lounge music per sey, just that Roland Kirk is too loungey for me. It's never clear cut is it.. I mean, I don't dislike folk music, but while I really really like The Incredible String band and Woody Guthrie, I can imagine saying that, personally I find The Crofters *too* folky, because they are archetypal and too purist for my tastes.

Bluebird, Thursday, 12 May 2005 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Just don't judge Roland Kirk on a few sound clips, because a lot of his shit is out of control.

John Lurie is a good call! I always forget about him, but I love the Lounge Lizards (note: Lounge Lizards not actually loungey).

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 May 2005 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Kenny Burrell, Grant Green, Jimmy Smith

Smokey.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

SINATRA

()ops (()()ps), Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm stunned and confused at Kirk being called "loungey".

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Sarah Vaughan maybe?

darin (darin), Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Chet Baker?

darin (darin), Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, Sinatra w/Count Basie specifically. Altho early Ella and Billie Holiday are also good suggestions.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

mingus! absolutly amazing. if you want more big band stuff some don ellis is cool. he does this thing where he writes songs for saxes in fourth steps, so it sounds really dissonant. but thats if you want the more "out there" stuff.

jonathan - stl (jonathan - stl), Friday, 13 May 2005 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Have gone with Andy Bey's "Ballads, Blues & Bey". Not excatly like the jazz in evidence on the two Crosby albums I mentioned, but the samples sound so so beautiful. Does anyone know this album?

Bluebird, Friday, 13 May 2005 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

The Acoustic Ladyland album, out Monday.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 May 2005 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Infrangible Swealty. His albums, all recorded in the fifties, are utter gems, although they are extremely hard to get hold of now. To start, if you can find these, I suggest try "You've Come A Long Time" and / or "San Fran Swealty". If unabashed unobviousness is what you're seeking, you'l have to forfeit the sampling-first-on-Amazon thing, I'm afraid... I very much doubt anyone on this board has heard of Infrangible Swealty, for instance, so this is a bit of a nod to the wize.

Mark Laweman, Friday, 13 May 2005 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

My ten favourite jazz records (I know piss-all about jazz)

Freddie Hubbard - Red Clay
Charles Mingus - The Black Saint & The Sinner Lady / Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus
Miles Davis - A Kind Of Blue / In A Silent Way
Herbie Hancock - Headhunters
Lee Morgan - The Sidewinder
Art Blakey - Moanin'
Cannonball Adderley - Mercy, Mercy, Mercy
Courtney Pine - Modern Day Jazz Stories

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 13 May 2005 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

those are all very good (well, i haven't heard that last one)

()ops (()()ps), Friday, 13 May 2005 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

five years pass...

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/feature.html/?ie=UTF8&plgroup=1&docId=1000518441&plpage=1

tell me which 3 to buy. i already have birth of the cool, blue trane and maiden voyage.

the most horrifying moment in shallow grave (abanana), Sunday, 4 July 2010 05:26 (fifteen years ago)

'Money Jungle', 'Go', 'The Sidewinder', and 'Live at the Golden Circle" , for me...

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 4 July 2010 05:36 (fifteen years ago)

idle moments, mode for joe & midnight blue

Jeff LeVine, Sunday, 4 July 2010 06:22 (fifteen years ago)

money jungle, something else, amazing bud powell vol. 1

hobbes, Sunday, 4 July 2010 06:40 (fifteen years ago)

Our Man in Paris, because it has my favorite take on "A Night in Tunisia", and shows one of the greatest tenor sax players in top damn form. It was the album that finally got me into what I'd up to that point found to be a "boring" sort of jazz (coming from rock, I wanted Mingus & Dolphy & Kirk, y'know, because it didn't feel as "clean" and, well, obscure as straight jazz somehow did)

Atomic Basie. Great big band arrangements played like hell.

Dialogue. Rather stranger than the other two, "post bop" I guess; intricate yet catchy, surprising but never ridiculous, and, I dunno, just really intriguing and interesting and enjoyable. (I have no idea. It's simply great.)

Hrm, everyone needs The Amazing Bud Powell vol 1 though... Probably instead of Atomic Basie, since they're both "hot" albums.

Øystein, Sunday, 4 July 2010 11:07 (fifteen years ago)

Besides the ones named, I'd definitely recommend:
Horace Silver - Song for My Father (probably the essential hard-bop/latin crossover record)
McCoy Tyner - The Real McCoy (maybe the best 'modal' hard bop record and one of the most exciting jazz records imo)
Andrew Hill - Black Fire (slightly more 'advanced' than other picks but great)
Sonny Clark s/t (a very tasty hard bop piano trio record)
Wayne Shorter - Juju or Speak no Evil (both are great examples of his prowess as a composer)
Chick Corea - Now He Sings, Now He Sobs (Possibly the most intense piano trio record I've ever heard)
Tony Williams - Spring (neat post-bop record that skirts the edges of in/out)

surfer blood for oil (Hurting 2), Sunday, 4 July 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

Thx everyone. I'm going with Amazing Bud Powell V1, Atomic Basie, and Money Jungle. I also bought some albums with a small number of tracks a la cart on an mp3 site -- Midnight Special, Idle Moments, Go.

the most horrifying moment in shallow grave (abanana), Sunday, 4 July 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)


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