Jesse Jackson wants hos and bitches off the airwaves..

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Does anyone take this toolbag seriously anymore?

Jesse wants to heave 'ho' off the airwaves


By DAVID HINCKLEY
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER


Jesse Jackson

The Rev. Jesse Jackson renewed his call for radio stations to "draw the line on dignity" during a visit yesterday to WBLS (107.5 FM).
Speaking with Paul Mooney, Ellen Cleghorne, Ann Tripp and Mark Jordan on the morning show, Jackson linked radio stations cleaning up their act with several other causes, including renewal of the 1965 Voting Rights Act.

Jackson is promoting a petition, which he hopes will get a million names, in support of retaining key clauses in the law.

Moreover, he warned, imperiled voting rights reflect the country's broader lack of commitment to equality and a troubling pattern of preference for privileged social and economic classes.

For instance, he said, a disproportionate number of lower-income people are fighting the Afghan and Iraqi wars.

"For people at Yale and Columbia, this war is academic," he said. "For us, it's bloody."

But Jackson also said black people need to take more responsibility for their own lives.

"We need to respect ourselves," he said. "We must maintain our own dignity." Which is where radio and the entertainment industry come in.

Jackson accused some radio stations, not by name, of "making a profit from degrading us." He cited popular songs that refer to women as "ho's" or "bitches," as well as songs that use the N-word.

"I'm distressed when I go to a club and see people dancing to songs that use these words," he said. "We should never dance to degradation. It's diminishing the worth of our life."

Jackson drew a parallel between the entertainment industry, "where some companies seem to think it's cute to call black women 'ho's'," and college athletics, where black athletes often have a low graduation rate.

Both situations add up to exploitation, Jackson said. "When you leave school with no diploma and a few clippings, you have wasted a great opportunity."

The use of the N-word and terms like "ho" has been debated for years on radio, with some stations and hosts arguing it just reflects what listeners say to each other.

AROUND THE DIAL: Eugene Bergmann, who has written a comprehensive biography of the late Jean Shepherd titled "Exclesior, You Fathead," will talk about the book and Shep tomorrow with Leonard Lopate, noon-2 p.m., on WNYC (93.9 FM, 820 AM). ... Fans of Zacherle will be pleased to hear he's back in the studio, re-recording his classic "Dear Valentine." He's 87, by the way. ... The morning show on WBAI (99.5 FM) yesterday did a sympathetic two-hour special on Ward Churchill, the Colorado professor who has come under widespread fire for suggesting Sept. 11 was in part a response to U.S. excesses in other nations. Churchill has taken a regular roasting on much of talk radio. ... WXRK (92.3 FM) is promoting its Internet sister, KRock2 (www.krockradio.com), by having tickets to Tuesday's Coldplay show at the Beacon available only through KRock2. ... Got some old radio memorabilia lying around? The Radio Hall of Fame in Chicago is looking for just that sort of thing. Contact Bruce DuMont at [email protected].

Originally published on May 11, 2005

shookout (shookout), Friday, 13 May 2005 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

What precisely is toolbaggy about making the everyday call for radio decorum? It's not a particularly unusual or indefensible position.

I only resent his implication that being at Columbia and being poor are mutually exclusive.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Were it not for Rev. Jackson and his crusade for dignity (me, I draw the line AT dignity), I wouldn't have been exposed just now to the superb title "Excelsior, You Fathead".

brianiac (briania), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i nearly got in an argt about rap once with some friends of mine, two semi-professional, standup, vaguely indie white women. their line was "i dunno, i just don't like hearing bitch all that often."

g e o f f (gcannon), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't see anything particularly objectionable here. though i am left with the amusing image of the rev. jesse jackson holding forth at a bangin' nightclub.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

There's plenty of non-bitch rap of course.

Smokescreens.

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i know, i just didn't feel like arguing, you know?

g e o f f (gcannon), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesse Jackson used to be super-anti-rap didn't he? My understanding is he's tempered that quite a bit since.

Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

As someone who's background is mostly Hip-Hop, I've encountered all the arguments all my life, and I've certainly wasted my breath on many occasion.

I eventually came to realize that haters either dislike anti-melodic music, or are culturalists (racists) to some degree. The defense really is as simple as "there's many different types of Hip-Hop", and it really doesn't need to go further I think.

But since 1996, I too despise Hip-Hop. Very little sounds enjoyable to me now. I'm not sure I even have a good argument for why I dislike it.

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'm distressed when I go to a club and see people dancing to songs that use these words," he said. "We should never dance to degradation. It's diminishing the worth of our life."

the phrase "dance to degradation" is pretty amazing. maybe it should be the Ying Yang Twins' album title. I guess Jesse is trying to tone down the rhyming since people make fun of him for it, but he can't help the alliteration.

Al (sitcom), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, that word “culturalist” is doing way more work than it’s built for. I see what you mean by it, and in a lot of senses I agree with you, but realistically: in a lot of cases that “culturalism” isn’t anything more than the same cultural not-feeling-it that lets middle-class white people write off country music—often there’s some cultural condescension built into it, but just as often there’s not. We may need to remind ourselves that normal humans don’t care nearly as much about music as we do; if the rap they hear has a vibe that turns them off, they’re not going to go searching for Mr. Lif records, they’re just gonna dismiss it and get on with their lives. You can call this musically uncurious or intellectually lazy, but unless people seem really inordinately vehement about not-liking hip-hop I try not to start poking into their psyches about it.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

[[[I'm distressed when I go to a club...]]]

Jesse Jackson in clubs? There's some insight.

Keep hos alive! Keep hos alive!

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Removing the words bitch and ho from hip hop radio isn't going to change anyone's self-image. It's just an easy political flashpoint. See: Tipper Gore. See: John Lofton.

shookout (shookout), Friday, 13 May 2005 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

most of the "bitch"'s and "ho"'s are already removed from hip hop radio, most stations play clean edits of the record where those words, among others, are erased or replaced. it might vary from station to station, but usually they're pretty wary of being penalized by the FCC (who cast a much more watchul eye on urban stations than, say, classic rock stations, which let f-words slip by pretty often in my experience). Jesse's right that most clubs play the dirty versions, though.

Al (sitcom), Friday, 13 May 2005 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to write a song called "It's Not Nice". It will go like this:

It's not nice
To say these words:
BITCH HO BITCH HO BITCH HO BITCH HO
BITCH HO BITCH HO BITCH HO BITCH HO
BITCH HO BITCH HO BITCH HO BITCH HO
BETTER HAVE MY MONEY

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 13 May 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.mgm.com/mgm/images/stills/MGMA000342-still_hires.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 May 2005 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)


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