Music that achieves Dub-like spacial/sonic interest without being expressely dub-ish in its effects choices

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Just listening on random, and Bjork's very minor "Amphibean" came around. I realised that she was achieving a very dub-like atmosphere, but that she wasn't directly employing any obvious post-Tubby/Perry "dub tricks" (unlike, say, Deadbeat--which I enjoy).

I think Arthur Russell's 'World of Echo' has some of the best dub production I've ever heard, but it doesn't exactly use the same moves--it just ends up with a similar breadth of staging and a feeling of contrast between dry and wet.

― I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 15 May 2005 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Martin Hannett to thread.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 May 2005 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Echo + sense of wide open space + cavernous reverb + electrofunk = Autechre -- "Tri Repetae".

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 15 May 2005 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Ciara -- "Oh": the beat is certainly reggae, and the bassline is very dub-like.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 15 May 2005 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Hannett never really plays with wet or dry, does he? Just kind of a fairly constant iciness?

'Tri Repetae' is a good call.

― I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 15 May 2005 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

David Essex - Rock On

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 15 May 2005 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

even better call!

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 15 May 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

ash ra tempel - schwingungen

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 15 May 2005 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

a feeling of contrast between dry and wet

i've heard this description of production before, but what does this mean exactly? examples, please.

― john'n'chicago, Sunday, 15 May 2005 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

it refers to the effect mix on a signal.

100% dry is what your electric guitar sounds like when it comes out of a clean amp, 100% wet is what loveless sounds like.

How much of the original signal do you hear vs how much of the effect(reverb, delay, chorus, phase...) do you hear.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Sunday, 15 May 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks!

― john'n'chicago, Sunday, 15 May 2005 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

faust "jennifer"

― Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 15 May 2005 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

John Martyn, mid-70s albums that feature Danny Thompson's double bass (Solid Air, Inside Out, One World) - British folkjazzbluesdub

― bham, Monday, 16 May 2005 06:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Huge portions of the first three Funkadelic records - esp. Free Your Mind...'s title cut. (Unless it's the result of a legitimate fuckup, rather than a deliberate production choice, in which case consider it a demonstration of the perils of musicians and producers all simultaneously tripping in the studio.)

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 16 May 2005 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Bohren & Der Club of Gore - "Black Earth"

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

A lot of indian pop music / film music I've heard uses excessive reverb for effect, particularly on vocal parts, giving some of that wet/dry contrast you're talking about.

― arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

"Jennifer" was the first thing to come to my mind as well

― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

lots of Holger Czukay. "Paper House" comes to mind first

― steve hise, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

DJ Shadow (and similar artists) comes to mind, records where there are multiple samples and thus multiple "spaces" working at the same time.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

"Matty Groves" by Fairport, and lots of Steeleye Span

― OHOYU, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Czukay and Conny Plank were big Scratch fans - certainly Neu!'s Für Immer has a dub thing going on.

― Deluxe (Damian), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Bohren & Der Club of Gore - "Black Earth"
-- jed_

GOOD choice!

― moley, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 10:06 (twenty-one years ago)

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