Kylie Minogue has breast cancer

Something about Queen being in i-D magazine. Didn't listen.

I was surprised to hear that Kylie is going to be 37 this month, which means I am too, whereas I thought I had been 37 all year.

I hope she gets well and then retires.

glastonbury's out. who *on earth* can replace her?

not the zutons foer darn sure.

glastonbury's out. who *on earth* can replace her?

not the zutons fer darn sure.

Should I be ashamed for being one of the first to think "Wow, this is a good way to cancel a 'world' tour that hasn't yet sold out - and due to start in two days - without pissing off a load of people?"

Apparently Scissor Sisters will replace her at Glastonbury.

DANNII HAS CANCER

Street parties already under way

XFM. Though what do they know, eh?

Annie (From Norway)

Abba?

I hope she gets through this and fully recovers.

Guide to youth

Priscilla Kwateng
Saturday May 14, 2005
The Guardian

Say anything bad about Kylie and you may as well claim the Pope spends his Sundays reading Asian Babes on the loo. You just don't diss on the Little Miss. It's simple maths, see: one part sexpot and 10 parts girl-next-door equals a star that almost every demographic warms to. And almost every demographic attended her concert last week: we're talking the gays, the girls, the mums, the dads, the grandmas, and more than a few agog grandads. You could feel the love, baby.

Funny, then, that the only person who looked like she wasn't having a good time was Kylie herself. She was a bit like - and this is the last smutty reference, I promise - someone having sex who makes the right noises and all but, given the choice, would rather be doing something else. Zero warmth, no connection with her adoring audience. Which is all a shame, because this show really was spectacular. Unfortunately, if I never believed Kylie was quitting before, I think I do now.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,,1482155,00.html

I think she'll get through this (the woman's nothing if not a trooper) but I still wish her all the best, and hopes she gets back on her feet soon.

Personally, I have quite liked some of the tracks on her last couple of albums, while I have hated most of the tracks on the last couple of Britney Spears albums, but it isn't like I would have hoped Britney Spears would have died, or at least lost her breast, if she was the one who had caught breast cancer.

As with the recent nauseating premature hagiography surrounding John Paul II, I do not see why illness should prevent anyone from saying anything about someone simply because he or she is a "celebrity."

Do we really give a shit whether Kylie Minogue has breast cancer or not? I don't. Why should I? I don't know her. She's not a member of my family or a close friend. Do you imagine she gives a flying fuck of any of us? Did I miss the posts she made on the threads about Nick K or about Mark S' mum?

She is a mediocre media creation and probably, in private, as right-wing as her stupider sister. Here K merely stands for Kapitalism - and the shameful kowtowing given to her on account of Her Illness and Nothing Else merely makes us more malleable passive recipients of State Pop. Her statue must be kicked down, smashed up and trampled upon as surely as that of Saddam's.

-i never said that i "knew" her. i stated that i met her a few times and that she was very genuine, which i still believe. it is very easy to pick things up like that from people upon first meeting, at least for me. i don't believe that just because they are part of some corporate pop moment that they are "bad" people. get off your throne.

"How dare you use your family and friend tragedies as a crutch with which to beat (fruitlessly) those who choose not to subscribe to the State Pop view of Minogue as a goddess, rather than an Australian of negligible talent whose success has largely been due to what men have done for, or to, her."

-i was not using them as a crutch but apparently you had made so many judgements about me because i felt a degree of symphathy with kylie and apparently was numb to any feelings for my family/friends that i needed to bring forth such statements. i, however, did not enjoy it. i also don't view kylie as a goddess. diamanda has been my goddess since i was 13. i discovered her thanks to my friends. i also never discussed her, kylie, talent to any great degree, you are once again assuming. i think her voice is actually quite good, i studied and trained vocally for 3 years and continue to sing on my own. however, i don't put my whole life into her.

"Such words are usually code for "I'm right wing but ashamed to admit it.""

-is that really the best that you can come up with. did you read that in a magazine? that is the weakest statement that i have heard from you and quite honestly most of them have been. silly, childish, one-sided and a blind opinion.

"Oh behave yourself. If it had been made legal you would have done it years ago."

-um, no actually i would not. it has been legal here for a year and my partner and i had said we would never buy it into the "straight way". i, unlike a lot of gay men, have no desire to buy into that charade. oh well, another strike for you. :)

"No apparently about it. It's the truth."

-another broad statement with no real understanding of who i am to base it upon. sad... maybe all these people that you hang out with on this board think that is a grand retort when actually it is weak. it's akin to saying... "yeah, well, so's yer mum!" what do you know of the truth of me anyway. i am making accusations about you based on concrete statemetns you have posted, not however speculation.

"With these crass, sentimental sentiments you reveal yourself as a willing victim of Kapitalism, the very system which is single-handedly responsible for creating the "injustices and disasters" about which you grieve so gallingly. You use tsunamis and holocausts as a blank canvas upon which to splatter your spleen of smouldering resentment. You deploy such memes to disguise, in the vain hope of obviating, the prison into which you walked so gladly."

-i'm doubling over in pain on this one... really i am. this is the most hilarious spray of piss it has been my misfortune to read. you really need to stop reading so many conspiracy mags. LOL! once again, knowing so little and judging so much... i am going to have my partner read this sometime he will have a serious laugh. he is correct when he says 80% of the world are idiots that spout more than they know or understand. i think you may be able to start your own kingdom on this count.

i walk in no prison either, i have spent my life feeling on the outside. there is a difference between genuinely feeling on the outside and fabricating opinions to make yourself feel as if you are on the outside, something of which you should know a lot about.

it's funny how you have picked certain parts of my email to twist into someway for you to batter me down rather than discuss the things that i have done. aids activism, cancer patient care, gay youth counseling etc... what have you done?? sat at your pulpit spewing sermons to persons who lap up your every hateful word?

"Precisely. So they shouldn't be demanding anything from me, should they?"

-i never stated that they were demanding anything from you nor do i think that you should give them anything, however when you are coming forth with hate to someone who is ill that is perverse, full stop.

"Posting long rants of this nature makes me dubious of the term "all my serious effort.""

-please, that took all of 10 minutes, at work, on my break... i had already spoken to my mates. i was bored as my lunch mate was on the phone with his girlfriend... plus any oppurtunity to argue with someone as self-righteous as you is always worth my effort and my friends and family appreciate it, you see it is a personal cause to extinguish self-righteous rattle as yours. and this took another 10.

She gave you a couple of autographs. So what?

"Such words are usually code for "I'm right wing but ashamed to admit it.""

-is that really the best that you can come up with. did you read that in a magazine? that is the weakest statement that i have heard from you and quite honestly most of them have been. silly, childish, one-sided and a blind opinion.

In other words, you agree with the statement in question.

-um, no actually i would not. it has been legal here for a year and my partner and i had said we would never buy it into the "straight way". i, unlike a lot of gay men, have no desire to buy into that charade. oh well, another strike for you. :)

Is it the two peas and a chip problem, as Gertrude Stein once remarked of Hemingway?

-another broad statement with no real understanding of who i am to base it upon. sad... maybe all these people that you hang out with on this board think that is a grand retort when actually it is weak. it's akin to saying... "yeah, well, so's yer mum!" what do you know of the truth of me anyway. (sic) i am making accusations about you based on concrete statemetns (sic) you have posted, not however speculation.

You have to understand that you cannot hope to progress any further as a sentient human being until you abandon this Kapitalist illusion which you bear upon your shoulder like a cross made of tinsel and tungsten. You must engage with the kollektivist notion, abandon spurious emotions and acknowledge that courtly love - given to and received from your fellow kollektivists - must be embraced in order for you to survive.

i walk in no prison either, i have spent my life feeling on the outside.

Thus do you fail to discern the crucial difference and conflict between those two statements. Commence feeling things on the inside instead of wearing them like a battered Better Badge which screams "I CARE!" in red lipstick, just to avoid being hanged.

-i never stated that they were demanding anything from you nor do i think that you should give them anything, however when you are coming forth with hate to someone who is ill that is perverse, full stop.

LOL! I come forth with INDIFFERENCE, rather than hate.

"i was bored... plus any oppurtunity (sic) to argue with someone as self-righteous as you is always worth my effort and my friends and family appreciate it, you see it is a personal cause to extinguish self-righteous rattle as yours. and this took another 10.

So much for "all my serious effort" then. "You see it is a personal cause to extinguish..." Thus you condemn yourself and expose yourself as yet another gleeful lever-puller at Dachau. Now toddle off back to your next KKK meeting. It really is dull having to spell the obvious out to a brain as meagre as yours.

Explain why Peel was a "cunt."

-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), January 17th, 2005.

I think that last sentence is otm re: the way people react to celebrity death/tragedy.

Is this guy fucking kidding... after the riot act that he read to Claire posts back, he has the nerve to come back with this one. Was this not what Claire was speaking of?? I don't remember him saying more than that he felt for her because of the situation. This guy feels a pang for Peel and shits on people for feeling the same for Kylie. This has to be a joke. This guy is a fucking clown and for anyone else not to see it, they are as bad as him. ASS-HAT!

Alex, summed it up...

Marcello, you are poison.

p.s. Right on Gear! Take this fuck down.

ha ha that's good. Especially coming from the man who wrote: It is always symptomatic of digital slaves of Kapitalism that they refract their own illnesses upon the mirrors of their opponents. The concept of the kollektive is not compatible with a sealed-off community; rather, a self-sufficient one which can survive without needing to lean on the crutches of easy emotionalism mistaken as a vital component of addressing the world.

But you're obviously joking. Right?

Else Orwell to thread.

She is a mediocre media creation and probably, in private, as right-wing as her stupider sister. Here K merely stands for Kapitalism - and the shameful kowtowing given to her on account of Her Illness and Nothing Else merely makes us more malleable passive recipients of State Pop. Her statue must be kicked down, smashed up and trampled upon as surely as that of Saddam's."

This isn't being bothered one way or another???

Regardless of whether or not you made that post in January or the previous decade or two days ago regarding John Peel, the fact is that it still proves that you had feelings for the death of somebody that you didn't know. Which is exactly what Claire stated about Kylie. You however, then went on to make critical judgements about his beliefs etc. without even knowing the man, you then talk about him going to the KKK and pulling a lever at dachau, and yet you know nothing about him. One should never throw such images around lightly, the torturers of Nazi Germany should never be inferred to, especially for some petty argument.

You Marcello sound more like a Nazi than anyone else on this thread; flexing your "assumed" and biased intellect, judging others by the people that they have compassion for... hmmmm sounds like another disgruntled individual who sought to "correct" all the things that "he" felt were wrong.

I think you are the irksome troll here Marcello.

and she'll be replaced at glasto by...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/news/altnews/050524_glastonbury.shtml

i bet you ayn rand plays Magic: The Gathering!

Marcello, there's nothing wrong about you not caring about Kylie. The problem lies on the contradictory arguments you use to condemn the stance those who do care, which you seem to try to reinforce with provocative comments like

an Australian of negligible talent whose success has largely been due to what men have done for, or to, her

that are, you must admit, entirely subjective.

Regardless of whether or not you made that post in January or the previous decade or two days ago regarding John Peel, the fact is that it still proves that you had feelings for the death of somebody that you didn't know. Which is exactly what Claire stated about Kylie. You however, then went on to make critical judgements about his beliefs etc. without even knowing the man, you then talk about him going to the KKK and pulling a lever at dachau, and yet you know nothing about him. One should never throw such images around lightly, the torturers of Nazi Germany should never be inferred to, especially for some petty argument.

You Marcello sound more like a Nazi than anyone else on this thread; flexing your "assumed" and biased intellect, judging others by the people that they have compassion for... hmmmm sounds like another disgruntled individual who sought to "correct" all the things that "he" felt were wrong.

I think you are the irksome troll here Marcello.

-- edward (icantsto...), May 24th, 2005.

This is a very poor effort. Using well-known people as a conduit for the transduction of FEELINGS ABOUT PEOPLE CLOSER TO ME is not concomitant with having feelings for their death. As with most of the other digital Kapitalist cretins on this board, you are incapable of distinguishing the term "fact" in meaning from the term "your (i.e. your) perspective." Unfortunately I know everything about Arm, or at least everything I need to know about Arm, which latter is clearly of greater consequence than the former.

The problem is that no one on this board has any real compassion for Kylie Minogue, and nor should they be expected to feel compassion for someone who doesn't know any of us, doesn't care about any of us, would get her guards to show us the door if we made the slightest attempt to approach her. If they are so deficient in genuine humanity and feel "real" compassion for this Kapitalist kash kow then they are deluded and are being hoodwinked, which is of course part of the tried-and-tested course of Kapitalist enslavement and converts us into tortured monkeys in hell.

Needless to say, were the concept of the kollektive to be properly embraced, then there would be no need to pretend to care, or worse, care for worthless "celebrities."

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"you are incapable of distinguishing the term "fact" in meaning from the term "your (i.e. your) perspective.""

...and you are as well. Go lead your pathetic life somewhere where you can not infect anyone else with your poison.

"behind every successful woman there is a man or team of men behind her."

(Schlock) This is absolutely unbearable and I hope that maybe the Black Leather Beavers visit your house this evening. :)

I'm afraid that your masturbatory fantasy will have to remain exactly that...and that is what you are really raging against.

I'm not going anywhere, so I suggest if you don't like it you emigrate to a less intellectually challenging message board elsewhere on the internet, wherein you can howl "Kylie RoXoR!" thousands of times in a row. Nevertheless you remain a tortured monkey in hell, and thus a hindrance to our kollektivist dream. You will find no support for your Kapitalist crutch here. Goodbye.

I use it as a direct reference to Marx and Engels' "kapitalisten" as it draws attention to the word from which it derives, namely "kaput," which is of course, in a different definitional sense, what we anti-Kapitalists wish to make it; in a subsidiary sense, the aim is to remove all of the meek compromise, deference and middleground mediocrity which are among the inevitable by-products of a Kapitalist system.

- No tolerance for mediocrity.
- No false sympathy for digital Kapitalist operatives who have done nothing with their existence to justify compassion on our behalf.
- No transferring of emotions because we are made by Kapitalist konstrukts to feel guilty and base for feeling said emotions for people who actually matter to us.

- No tolerance for mediocrity.
- No false sympathy for digital Kapitalist operatives who have done nothing with their existence to justify compassion on our behalf.
- No transferring of emotions because we are made by Kapitalist konstrukts to feel guilty and base for feeling said emotions for people who actually matter to us.

oh so you didn't have sympathy for Peel after all!

Wow, this is a howl. I made no reference to liking Kylie that I was aware of. I am not really that into her to be quite honest, I think she has a decent voice but... I however, still have compassion for anyone who develops cancer. I have lost several friends and family members to it and it is a tough time for anyone. FACT.

It is amazing how much you assume about people who you know nothing about. You have no concept of who I am, what I like, my political persuasions et al. and yet you level accusation. You truly are a little Nazi.

You speak of intolerance for Mediocrity and how do you judge this? Who makes you the spokeperson for what is and what is not Mediocre? Is the judgment of talent not completely subjective?

You are a true uneducated child. FACT.

"I'm pro-vagina"

The thing is, you are not worth knowing. You are an obstruction to progress. My judgement is wise and final. Have you never heard of Papal infallibility? I am reclaiming the Katholik koncept and converting it into an ahumanist one.