Where is the love for all these bands from my vinyl 12-inch "P" shelf who have rarely if ever been mentioned on ILM?

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Pajama Party
Zeena Parkins
Patchwork
Guesch Patti & Encore
Pearl Harbor and the Explosions (should've been filed under "H"!)
Penguin Cafe Orchestra
Steve Perry (solo)
Peter and the Test Tube Babies
Phuture
Pigbag
Pink Fairies
Piper
Joe Piscopo (in Sinatra covering rock songs mode)
Porcupine Tree
Gerhard Potuznik
Porn Theatre Ushers
Precious Metal
Pretty Poison
The Primitives
Prism
Propellerheads
Alex Pulaski and the Polka Dots

xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Porcupine Tree

We've got a number of fans of them on the board, there has been talk even in quieter corners. "Even Less" is I think still my fave song by them. Been a whole slew of reissues of the early stuff recently. Steven Wilson is one busy guy. (I still like No-Man more in the end.)

The Primitives

The late 80s one? Great for the first singles and first two albums.

Propellerheads

Finally selling them back.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Zeena Parkins - crrrrrrrrrazy harp lady!

Pashmina will explain the appeal of the Pink Fairies

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"Papa's Got a Brand New Pigbag" (long version)

willem (willem), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the "Crash" Primitives (just have that 12-inch single by them; did they do anything else that good?)

The Porcupine Tree here is a sidewalk-sale-purchased double-album early-years comp called *Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape*, on yellow vinyl and with a liner notes bio that seems entirely fabricated, and is pretty funny even if it's not. More recent stuff I've heard (their new album just entered Billboard's Top 200 two weeks ago!) sounds considerably less weird; is that the consensus with their loyal fans? (I've never met one myself.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not really a loyal fan of Porcupine Tree, I kind of find them likeable, not lovable, if you know what I mean. The best one is the first one, which is super cheesy, sounds like it was recorded on a bedroom four track, and lysergic as fuck. The last couple of albums, "in absentia" and "deadwing" seem to have done a lot better that previous releases, 'though skewed a bit far away from the progressive side and too much towards the alt-rock side for my tastes. They're always good live, I find, but I don't often listen to their rekkids, If I want to listen to a modern prog rekkid, IQ or Illuvatar are better for me.

Primitives are great, the first album, and side one of the second album especially. There's a fair bit of kind-of clever arranging going on in a lot of their records, which lifts them a way above yer average indie underachievers. plus, two good singers.

Pink Fairies are one of my favourite bands, especially when they had paul rudolph playing for them. Nice falling apart but not quite feel, i love the singer's voice, mighty raga-rock lead breaks here & there, I dunno, they just make me feel warm & happy.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

that YHD 2LP is serious eBait. diehard P-Tree-ers seem to have absurd amounts of money to squander on Wilson's juvenilia.

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose they've built their audience up over a long time, so there's a lot of early records that were pressed up in small quantities. My copy of "on the sunday of life" or whatever it's called is the original delerium CD pressing, I wonder if it's worth ebaying?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Penguin Cafe Orchestra is great, in an NPR-segue sort of way. Kind of like "AGW" era Eno with a more pronounced sense of humor.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Potuznik is a fixture of the Vienna scene. drawn towards ambitious conceptual work, like the endlessly fascinating Concorde+, but not too stuffy to turn out New Order tributes (as G.D.Luxxe or Gerhard Deluxxe) and frosty drum n' bass (as Cube & Sphere) on the side. he's the wildcard electrician of the Cheap Records' stable, working alongside Pulsinger and Tunakan in their IO and Private Lightning Six enterprises, and with cartoonist Tex Rubinowitz in the Residents-like Mäuse (a personal favorite). a man of many aliases, very much worth getting to know.

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the "Crash" Primitives (just have that 12-inch single by them; did they do anything else that good?)

It was their high point in many eyes -- I suppose even mine! If you find the Lovely album, which that was on, give it a whirl; you might also like Lazy 86-88, which collected the indie singles. But I have an extremely soft spot for the second album Pure, which is one of my three 'summer' albums -- ie, I can't play it except during summer and I will *always* play it every summer at least a couple of times. Puts a little more dreamy psych and fake Morricone and more into things while still riding the JAMC/Blondie jones hard and it all works.

*rereads* Well, I think Pash said it already! So I'll echo him. The first side of Pure is definitely the stronger but the whole thing works.

I'm not really a loyal fan of Porcupine Tree, I kind of find them likeable, not lovable, if you know what I mean. The best one is the first one, which is super cheesy, sounds like it was recorded on a bedroom four track, and lysergic as fuck.

That would be On the Sunday of Life, which was indeed a bedroom record and intentionally recorded as a mock late 60s exercise a la the Dukes of Stratosphear. Then he turned serious. ;-)

My friend Stripey rilly rilly lurvs "Always Never," which is a great song from The Sky Moves Sideways. She also likes them for the Japan connection given that Barbieri ended up in the lineup.

I suppose they've built their audience up over a long time, so there's a lot of early records that were pressed up in small quantities. My copy of "on the sunday of life" or whatever it's called is the original delerium CD pressing, I wonder if it's worth ebaying?

I'm on the no-man mailing list so I should know about demand. ;-) I don't *think* it is since the reissue is out with more tracks and all but maybe there's some goof who really wants the original as it stands for some reason. *shrug*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Unless you're not talking about the Acid House progenitors, Phuture gets all kinds of love here.

john'n'chicago, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Oops; I hadn't noticed! Maybe I should have said Graham Parker and the Rumour instead then...

xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I will second Ned's enthusiasm for the Primitives' second album--I actually like it a lot more than the first record, which I like plenty as it is. "Keep Me In Mind," what a song.

There exists a Primitives single where they do "As Tears Go By" with EXACTLY the same arrangement as "Crash."

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

As much as I liked Crash, I don't think it's the best song on the first record. It's like 7th.

diedre mousedropping and a quarter (Dave225), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

There exists a Primitives single where they do "As Tears Go By" with EXACTLY the same arrangement as "Crash."

... and this is a good thing?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The Penguin Cafe Orchestra still make me choke up on occasion. The first two albums Music From The Penguin Cafe and Penguin Cafe Orchestra can't be beat... My personal favorite is actually their last album from 1993 called Union Cafe. Yeah, they don't "rock", but they're really a mind-settler on road trips. Anyone who likes Eno's Another Green World, who also has an appreciation for anything on Thrill Jockey, or even for people who find Thrill Jocking boring as fuck, shouldn't be without these first two albums. They're kinda the unspoken influence on bands like Gastr Del Sol, Directions In Music, Archer Prewitt, dare i say Sea And Cake (although I think Sea And Cake are also influenced by New Order and Christopher Cross.)

Pigbag.. now there's a band whose records I pick up without ever really needing to preview them. the "Hit the 'O' Deck" 12" is great, as is the "Getting Up" 12".. actually all of them are quite nice. Also proto-!!! non-shocker.

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw a very energetic Pearl Harbour and the Explosions show back in the day. She was a lot of fun, and I remember particularly impressed with the guitarist's use of dissonant, off-kilter jazz chords in a pop-rock context, a la Andy Summers. I actually play that PH&the E LP, as well as her solo follow-up, fairly often.

Daniel Peterson (polkaholic), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

the Penguin Cafe Orchestra thread.

I wish the band didn't have this stigma of "bland hipness" (as John Leland described him in one of his early Spin columns, as funny as the context was.)... or this "music for older people" stigma.

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Guesch Patti & Encore: The wrong French new wave, although she has a nice voice.

Phuture: "Acid Trax" is a true classic, a real breakthrough in the abuse of programmable rhythm synths (the Roland TB-303, to be specific).

Pink Fairies: Very sloppy proto-pub rock; memorable mainly as the launching pad for Mick Ferren.

Piper: Where Billy Squier came from. I remember liking the self-titled album, but haven't listened to it in decades.

Joe Piscopo (in Sinatra covering rock songs mode): Perhaps the only reason to love Harry Connick.

Propellerheads: "History Repeating" includes the first non-ironic use of Shirley Bassey since the Bond flicks, which is recommendation enough for me.

J.D. Considine, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

This is Cocaine...

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Propellerheads: "History Repeating" includes the first non-ironic use of Shirley Bassey since the Bond flicks, which is recommendation enough for me.

I must deny you, J.D. -- Shirley's singing on "The Rhythm Divine," written by Billy Mackenzie with Yello on a Yello album in the late eighties, was totally non-ironic and thoroughly brilliant.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Piper, yeppir, Billy Squier. Lots of guitars, three in fact, in the band. Two records, first s/t is the best, hardest and poppiest. He should have carried the song "42nd Street" onto "The Stroke." "Telephone Relation" was pretty good, too. Managed by Aucoin, toted around with Kiss.

Pink Fairies were the Deviants minus Mick Farren who went solo around the same time or was kicked out. The albums he might've been doing were "Mona" (??) and "Vampires Stole My Lunch Money," although PF's were probably a little earlier than the second.

Precious Metal -- LA all-girl metal band. "Right Here, Right Now," was the first, was really good, produced by Sabu! Saunders swore by them. Made a few more records, none as good as the first, covered a Bruce Springsteen song ("Two Hearts" ??) for their last. Blew a production deal with Keith Olsen that might have made them huge. Kind of annoyed with Vixen for getting on TV. Saw them with Extreme opening at the Cat Club many years ago. One guitarist went to work with Lindsey Buckingham. The singer, Leslie Knauer, is in a Cali-indie band called Kanary that plays in the LA-->Riverside-->Sacramento-->Fresno bar circuit.

George Smith, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Pretty Poison was Jade Starling's band. Electro-dance, big in the Philly area. For some reason, I used to listen to them with my Bunnydrums records. I liked the way she looked more than the music. I thought they would be more gothic than they turned out to be.

George Smith, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

A few months ago, had this thread been started, I would have yelled "WOT? No PANDORAS?".. then I got the very recent Ryko reissue of their two releases, and I was sorely disappointed. Blah. I'm selling it back.

I'll stick to the Muffs.

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that the reissue w/ "Rock Hard?" Pandoras were much a more a (bad) hard rock band by that time. I still love the garage-rock Pandoras of "It's About Time" and "Stop Pretending," which are much more in the Muffs vein.

Daniel Peterson (polkaholic), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, donut, the Bomp/Voxx era stuff might be more up yer alley.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

ha ha, i like that pandoras issue fine myself:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0520,eddy,64005,22.html

xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Rock Hard/Nymphomania Live reissue

You mean there are two more earlier albums that are more bubblegum-ish?

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah never mind, Pandoras xpost fevah. Yeah, I guess Ryko will be reissuing those albums too, I gather?

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Prism !?
Must have heard an Lp by them once, nigh a quarter of a century ago. Didn't love it too much, tho. ...Was "Space ship Superstar" their song?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

REissue, I meant. (Haven't heard their earlier Bomp stuff in years, though I remember liking a 45 from then once. Shoulda kept it, maybe.)

Also, the Propellerheads one I liked wasn't their unstomachably kitschy Shirley Bassey thing; it was their earlier 12-incher "Bang On," which somehow reminded me of Todd Terry's "Bango", which had somehow reminded me of Dinosaur L (aka Arthur Russel)'s "Go Bang #5."

xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

First Pandoras was charmless club-footed garage rock, the kind which others more patient than me go nuts over and build a scene around. No one could really play guitar very well, singing only a little better. Second one progressed. Melodies, not just thrashing around.

Then they became a dirtier version of Precious Metal for "Rock Hard."
Still needed a lead guitarist.

George Smith, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

My favorite Pearl Harbor song is "You Got It (Release It)", which contains no concrete nouns (except "right as rain", which doesn't count).

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got that Propellerheads album. When I was twelve it own3d. I haven't listened to it in years but I think I'd still enjoy some of it.

... And suddenly Ian Riese-Moraine is a naked man saying, 'Volvo! Volvo!' (Easte, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

No Pontiac Brothers, Chuck?

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, no. I must've gotten rid of *Doll Hut* and *Fiesta en la Bibloteca* (maybe *Johnson,* too? I forget if I liked that one) 15 years ago by now. But maybe someday I'll see 'em in a dollar bin, who knows?

xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The only Pink Fairies LP I own is Kings of Oblivion and it's pretty aggressive MC5 derived hard rock w/Mick Farren's straining-to-be-classic "City Kids" a standout. Never heard the fabled Deviants.

I've always loathed Journey but "Oh Sherry" by Steve Perry was a good pop single in a year (1984) loaded with good pop singles.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 09:04 (twenty-one years ago)

"City Kids" is probably a Larry Wallis tune, as I recall. Did it wind up on Motorhead's first album, not the one with Fast Eddie as guitarist, the one with Wallis which was the demo for it?

George Smith, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

it was definitely on on parole, yeah. which is a really good album on its own terms, wallis really nails it.

kings of oblivion is so classic ("i wish i was a girl" - c'mon!). the first pink fairies not so much due to some real crap here and there. haven't heard the second one yet.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The second Fairies LP has the really cool version of "Walk Don't Run" which glues a proto-heavy metal prologue about a dominatrix onto the surf stomp. "I walked up to her room/She hit me with her broom/Said, 'Boy, you gotta walk before you r-u-n-n-n."

George Smith, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that's *What a Bunch of Sweeties*, right? Wish I still owned that one (though I did at least tape "Walk Don't Run" when I sold my copy). Still have *Kings of Oblivion,* though, plus a weird Polydor UK import 1976 best-of called *Pink Fairies,* which includes "The Snake" and "Well Well Well," which I don't think are on any of their proper albums. I remember almost nothing about *Never Never Land,* though, except for "Do It," which was pretty great.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

And "City Kids" also shows up on a great old early-era Motorhead best of I have called *Beer Drinkers and Hell Raisers* (along with, among other things, the ZZ Top cover title tune and their very cool version of "Lost Johnny" by Hawkwind.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that's *What a Bunch of Sweeties*, right? Wish I still owned that one (though I did at least tape "Walk Don't Run" when I sold my copy). Still have *Kings of Oblivion,* though, plus a weird Polydor UK import 1976 best-of called *Pink Fairies,* which includes "The Snake"

I had the Polydor thing, too. Traded it in when the CD reissues of the Pink Fairies arrived. "The Snake," which rooled -- Ah the sna--a-aa-ke, better watch out now, watch out, -bomp- -bomp- -bum- -bomp- -bomp-." is a bonus cut on one of them, prolly the first. Invigorating high dumbness much better than Humble Pie's "One Eyed Trouser Snake Rumba."

George Smith, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Favourite Penguin Cafe Orchestra track: "The Sound Of Someone You Love Who Is Going Away And It Doesn't Matter." Didn't Simon Jeffes also do the orchestral arrangements on The Great Rock 'n Roll Swindle?

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

revive

skogsturken, Thursday, 25 March 2010 02:57 (sixteen years ago)

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where is the love, Thursday, 25 March 2010 04:13 (sixteen years ago)

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ksh, Thursday, 25 March 2010 04:19 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUxADCsPV8s

revive, Thursday, 25 March 2010 05:03 (sixteen years ago)


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