Country Joe & the Fish - C/D, S/D

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if i'm not mistaken there has not been a thread on them. their name was enough to turn me off to begin with, and the "clever" anti-'Nam ditty he/they performed at Woodstock i find to be dreadful, like most protest music.

however...

despite all that, i decided to see what deal was with their debut album and i'll be damned if "section 43" isn't one of the best acid-damaged instrumentals ever. so i'm wondering, is the rest of that album just as good? or does it all tend to veer toward the hokey-folk side? and whatever other comments you have about them...

Amon (eman), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I recently heard some of the early stuff and was truly amazed, it was, well, almost proto-Spiritualized in terms of influences and approaches. His appearance at Terrastock IV (I think) suddenly made sense.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i need those early eps. i've heard some of those tracks, great stuff.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i just listened to samples of the rest of the first one on amazon and it's not bad, but nothing like the harmonica and organ soloing on "section 43." a couple other tracks seem like they might also be gems, "masked marauder" and "grace."

Amon (eman), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Search: "Bass Strings"

Which I should search myself, since I only heard it on a MOJO comp.

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

There really hasn't been a Country Joe thread? They're a classic, one of my favorite San Francisco bands. Other great songs: Flying High, Not So Sweet Martha Lorraine, Porpoise Mouth. But then I like the Feel Like I'm Fixin' to Die Rag as well. I should have mentioned that song on the old-timey-americana thread a while back. Anyway, it just sounds like you don't like the singing. Section 43 is alright but it's a little bit plodding and it's probably the most skippable track on that album.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Stormy Davis to thread.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Hi Tim!

Yeah, they were great. First three albums anyway, I never heard anything after that. I've heard bad things and been scared to tread. But man, in the beginning they were great and especially that first album is an all-time classic of San Franciscan brain-melt. It's too bad people will always remember them for the Woodstock thing. That hokey stuff is non-existant on the first one, and only creeps in a little on the 2nd and 3rd. Plus the freak-out version of "Rock & Soul Music" on Together blows away the little snippet of performance in the film. Barry Melton could cook with the best of those SF dudes, though he certainly lived in a crowded town what with Jorma, Jerry and John C around. Barry's first solo album is just sorta "ok" -- a fun little record with some good playing but not lysergically inflected or anything.

Personally, I'd skip the "3 EPs" thing and just pick up that Berkeley EP's compilation that Big Beat put out. You don't really need the later two Country Joe EPs unless you're a hardcore fan -- they're basically just solo CJ joints. But Berkeley EP's, like "3 EPs", gives you that all-important first blast of CJ&tF, AS WELL AS the first EP's by the mighty Mad River and Frumious Bandersnatch!! How can you lose?? You can't. You also get this EP by this other kinda lame group. Sons of the Underground or something like that? I forget. They were label-mates on Vanguard with CJ & the boys. Vanguard was such a cool little label. People always forget to mention it when they rattle off the names of the great 60s labels. Sam Charters had great taste. Sandy Bull, Buffy Sainte-Marie, CJ&tF, Serpent Power ... even Third Power! and the Frost! ok the Frost kinda sucked but still. That's a pretty hefty roster right there....

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)

also I really want to hear that posthumous live CJ&tF CD that Fantasy put-out, Live at the Fillmore. Can't believe I haven't picked that one up yet. apparently has like a 30 minute jam with Jack Casady and Jerry!

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Classic Country Joe: at summercamp in 1969 the counselors led us campers in a singalong of "Feel Like I'm Fixing To Die." No FUCK cheer as it was a Catholic camp and most counselors were seminarians!

Otherwise DUD.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I've only got Electric Music and I'm not really all that nuts about it - not as, um, transportational as the Airplane (if you'll excuse the pun), nor as pissed-off and downright *bent* as the Fugs (their East Coast counterparts perhaps?). That said, 'Sweet Martha Lorraine' and 'Flying High' and especially 'Masked Marauder' are all totally dandy by me.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 10:06 (twenty-one years ago)

eleven years pass...

Recent live set by Joe with // Matt Piucci - electric guitar // Derek See - electric guitar // Alec Palao: electric bass // Andrea Hensler - keyboards // Jozef Becker - drums.
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=591321

Stevolende, Monday, 8 May 2017 21:47 (nine years ago)

eight years pass...

R.I.P. Country Joe. One of my favorite clips from Monterey Pop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK-URq0h7ek

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 8 March 2026 18:17 (three months ago)

R.I.P. Country Joe.

Awww I met him once … nice guy!

sarahell, Sunday, 8 March 2026 23:01 (three months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDhLYJMPlYg

sarahell, Sunday, 8 March 2026 23:03 (three months ago)

And the relevant classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft0vkKCadgk

sarahell, Sunday, 8 March 2026 23:11 (three months ago)

I also met Country Joe at a performance in a small atrium in the University of Maryland student union building, mid-1980s. Played a couple of sets then hung out with the audience for the next hour afterward. RIP.

Lee626, Monday, 9 March 2026 00:50 (three months ago)

RIP :(

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 March 2026 02:36 (three months ago)

The song I posted on Facebook is not (I don't think) particularly well known, but it is absolutely my favourite pop song written about another pop star ever, ahead of "Alex Chilton," "Levi Stubbs' Tears," and a few others. The amazing thing is, it's from their second album, Nov. 1967, before both Cheap Thrills and the Monterey film (but after the festival itself). So Janis is known, but not nearly as well as she would be in a year.

"It's not very often that something special happens..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaRppv4fgjo

clemenza, Monday, 9 March 2026 02:56 (three months ago)

Yeah, that’s a great song. I can understand how they’re kind of second-tier compared to the Dead or the Airplane, but the first three albums hit a sweet spot for me with their eclectic mix of jugband, country rock, Dylan and psych. The organ and Fish’s lead guitar explorations especially are a perfect 60s time capsule. LSD!!!….

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Monday, 9 March 2026 23:48 (three months ago)

Apparently Joe & Janis dated for a while in the early days, and later on he wrote a nice set of liners for her Farewell Song comp.

https://www.discogs.com/master/72246-Janis-Joplin-Farewell-Song?image=12722755.SW1hZ2U6MzY4NTA4NDQ%3D

(Scrub through for the rest)

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 March 2026 00:55 (three months ago)

Who knew Twiggy had a top 20 hit with a Country Joe song in 1976?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeTvCYX6PDQ

Schlub 7 (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 March 2026 12:30 (two months ago)

I've seen mention that Electric Music For The Mind and Body was a must listen to lp on the London psychedelic scene in a few places. So I think pretty influential there. Definitely seen it mentioned in Fairport Convention histories, not sure exactly who ascribed to but I'm thinking I've seen Richard Thompson mention it.

Stevo, Sunday, 22 March 2026 13:37 (two months ago)

They were one of the few acts from his hippy era John Peel used to talk fondly about, he was a big fan of Barry Melton's guitar playing.

Schlub 7 (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 March 2026 13:50 (two months ago)


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