Where is the love for all these bands from my vinyl 12-inch "W" shelf who have rarely if ever been mentioned (unless I just never noticed) on ILM?

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Sam Walker
Anita Ward
Wee Papa Girl Rappers
David Werner
Westside Chemical
The Whispers
Barrence Whitfield & the Savages
Whodini
Wlld Orchid
The Wild Seeds
Willie & Gil
Robin Williamson & his Merry Band
Will to Power
Jesse Winchester
The Wiseguys
Witchdoctor
Witch Queen
Bruce Wooley and the Camera Club

xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Robin Williamson is a true great. One of the two main Incredible String Band guys. Never heard the Merry Band records; that was his late seventies, post-ISB group, I believe. Got to see him play a few times in the eighties when I was a teenager, though, because I think he used to live part of the year in California.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 19 May 2005 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

wee papa girl rappers!! "wee rule" = ruled

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 19 May 2005 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

especially the so-tacked-on acieeed sounds in the instrumental bits

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 19 May 2005 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

anita ward of "ring my bell" fame?

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 19 May 2005 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

yes yes yes (while i put away the dishes)

xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

>>>Wee Papa Girl Rappers

I've only liked one song by them and that's "Heat It Up"... I think it was produced by Kevin Saunderson and Andy Cox and David Steele, or is that David Cox & Andy Steele? Either way, it's those other two guys from Fine Young Cannibals, and, of course, Two Men A Drum Machine And A Trumpet!!!

>>>The Whispers

I'm ashamed to admit that I'm more into everything from the 1980 s/t album (with their best song "And The Beat Goes On") and afterwards... I know they have a humongous history beforehand, but they still kept on keepin' on, and really knew (a producer who knew) a way to make great synth bass. "Tonight" from Love For Love from 1983 is grossly underrated.

>>>Whodini

"The Haunted House Of Rock". Helloooooooo. Namechecking the Grateful Dead in rap lyrics : C/D? Also, nice echoey, spooky bridge.

>>>Witch Queen

They did the disco "Bang A Gong" right? I think I got that 4-song EP of theirs, thinking it would be great, and it wasn't that great. But everyone needs a disco cover of a T. Rex song, good or bad.. I think(?)

donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Bruce Wooley had ties to the Buggles, right? Maybe he co-wrote a song with them and they both recorded it?

Wee Papa Girls = wonderful. But I always confused them with Cookie Crew.

Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 19 May 2005 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"Heat It Up"

ah *that's* the song with the acieeed bits in it.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 19 May 2005 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Wooley co-wrote THE Buggles song (y'all know the one).

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 19 May 2005 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Does Woolley also have a Thomas Dolby connection? I have that Camera Club record. Hmmm . . . [heads to loft]

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 19 May 2005 06:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Whodini -- "Funky Beat" with its descending synth figure was a hugely influential rap record in the early Def Jam era. See also "Friends" and "Five Minutes of Funk."

The Whispers -- "It's A Love Thing" surpasses even "And The Beat Goes On" IMHO. "In The Raw" is hot too but their slow jams...meh.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Thursday, 19 May 2005 09:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw Whodini live, at Reading University of all places, doing a fairly cheesy show... to the extent that they put on "spooky" Halloween costumes for "Haunted House Of Rock". They came a cropper when bigging up their DJ.

"Isn't he the greatest DJ you've ever heard in your life?"

Polite, muted ripple of assent.

"I SAID ISN'T HE THE GREATEST DJ YOU'VE EVER HEARD IN YOUR LIFE?"

Guy down the front, clearly not a student, calmly seizing the moment: "No, not really."

Whodini guy, coming to the front of the stage: "Oh, so who have you heard that's better?"

Guy down the front, cool as you like: "DJ Red Alert, at a block party in New York."

Whodini guy, flummoxed, now completely out of cheesy "performance" mode: "Oh, OK. Yeah, he's, uh, real good..."

I liked "Magic's Wand" and "Freaks Come Out At Night" the best.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 19 May 2005 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Anita Ward: "Ring My Bell" was a classic disco one-shot that nicely exploited her girlish soprano.

The Whispers: Solid '70s R&B harmony group, one of SOLAR's non-disco staples. Pleasant, slick, eminently likeable. Don't know their '90s comeback stuff on Capitol, though.

Barrence Whitfield & the Savages: Blues-rock outfit, ironically named apparently.

Robin Williamson & his Merry Band: Big favorite of Plant and Page, and apparently an influence on LZIII. Had a very nice album on ECM about five years back.

Will to Power: Famous for the unexpectedly earnest "Baby I Love Your Way/Freebird Medley." More cheese than Wisconsin.

Bruce Wooley and the Camera Club: Did indeed co-write "Video Killed the Radio Star," and cut a less bombastic version (which I liked better, but that's just me). Did indeed have a young Thomas Dolby in his band.

J.D. Considine, Thursday, 19 May 2005 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

But of course, Wisconsin is very glad to have their cheese; likewise (well, not exactly), WTP's "Searchin'" is great and fantastically airy.

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Thursday, 19 May 2005 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesse Winchester - nice Robbie Robertson produced first album. Althoough when I pulled it out again recently, a lot of it sounded cornier than I remembered.

Not Thaat Chuck, Thursday, 19 May 2005 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Whodini's tracks were produced by the Willesden Dodgers, Thomas Dolby and Conny Plank of all people.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 19 May 2005 13:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Were Witchdoctor a reggae band? If so I have a very vague memory of having seen them at The After Dark in Reading many, many years ago and I believe I've got a single by them ("Night Nurse"?).

Alternatively, it's entirely possible that I saw a band called Night Nurse and have a single by them called "Witchdoctor"....

There used to be an awful lot of ganja smoke in the air on reggae nights at the After Dark in the late '70's / early '80's.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 19 May 2005 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

'Don't Drop My Love' by Anita Ward is just as good as 'Ring My Bell'. Does she have anything else worth hearing?

There's a mashup with Westbam and Whodini of 'Haunted House Of Rock' that sounds like something Felix Da Housecat can only dream of. Hunt hunt hunt. (or ask and I shall YSI.)

'And the beat goes on' and 'It's a love thing' are two great songs by the Whispers, ATBGO is up there in my top 100 alltime best evers.

Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

witchdoctor i have is more, um, electronica or thereabouts -- 12-inch single frm 1997 called "crack attack" on city of angels records; apparently a test pressing (since the act's and song's name are written in ink on the label). I know zilch else about them (or him, or her)

all i have by anita ward is the "ring my bell" 12-inch. (i'm so square. baby, i don't care.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

and oh yeah: the witch queen record does indeed have 4 songs (incl bang a gong & all right now) but lasts 31 minutes; hence, is technically (by my rules) (= old pazz & jop rules) an ALBUM, not an EP (ditto the 8-song-including- remixes Two Sisters record that somebody mistakingly labeled an EP on another thread.) (I don't care about spelling mistakes; but this is important!)

xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a mashup with Westbam and Whodini of 'Haunted House Of Rock' that sounds like something Felix Da Housecat can only dream of. Hunt hunt hunt. (or ask and I shall YSI.)

i'm asking (again)...i'll try and get some stuff up myself, you need some of the tracks from the frenchbloke 'everything you do is wrong' mix if you haven't heard that.

$V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Will to Power was Bob Rosenberg's group, who was a widely known DJ at WEDR in Miami. He's often credited with breaking Miami Bass. He also did some of the edits on the first 2 Live Crew album.

I know, I'm a broken record on this subject.

Did I mention Anita Ward was signed to Henry Stone's TK Records out of Miami?

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost: No, xhuxk - the Two Sisters was sold as an album in the States, but was packaged/marketed in the UK as a 12" single by Morgan Khan's Streetwave label. Generic Streetwave sleeve with a hole in the middle; racked with all the other 12" singles in the shops; and sold at the standard 12" single price. (I'll have to check the RPM when I get home.) As I said: weird marketing.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

David Werner -- glam rock dude, late 70's/early 80's. One album, I think. Listen to the major guitar chomps on "New Romance," a kind of stately pop rock glam processional.

Jesse Winchester -- wrote the song "Biloxi," originally released in 1970, covered by many, including the Brain Surgeons a few years back.

George Smith, Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got two David Werner albums, Whizz Kid (1974) and Imagination Quota (1975). Both are sort of respectable (i.e. I never listen to them) glam pop, a bit cabaret in places. "New Romance" isn't on either one of them, so maybe there's another album. I always think of him and the Wackers together for some reason. Were they all Canadian and vaguely glam or something?

Moosie Grosvenor (Arthur), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Stevem, here y'go: http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0S2BAD7K7KUJJ1BSJNVNNU1KR4 (Whodini vs Westbam - Haunted House of Rock) though I'm sure I've told you to d/l it before. It's great anyway.

Yeah let's have a listen to some of the stuff from the Frenchbloke mix, and if you're feeling kindly take a look at my numerous (and wholly ignored, apart from a couple off Jed) requests on the new YSI thread.

PPW, if anyone will know any other decent Anita Ward songs then you will, was she just a one and half hit wonder or should I dig more out? I'm trying to get hold of a track called 'Spoiled By Your Love' now. I just read that 'Ring My Bell' was originally written for Stacey Lattisaw. I luv Lattisaw so would like to hear her version, if she ever did actually sing it.

Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got two David Werner albums, Whizz Kid (1974) and Imagination Quota (1975). Both are sort of respectable (i.e. I never listen to them) glam pop, a bit cabaret in places

Then mine must have been a third record for I had it new after the ones mentioned. Cabaret's another good word for describing something of the timbre of "New Romance." Still has great heavy guitar drama.

I did find that Ian Hunter is on one song on that album and even mixed "Every New Romance," which I have been remembering the name of incorrectly. I also learned Ian Hunter played piano on the Tuff Darts, "Slash My Wrists." "I'd rather slash my wrists, than fall in love witchyou you you, baby."

George Smith, Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got the (self titled) Werner album George has, though I've heard of those two earlier ones (recorded when he was a whizz kid teenager or something, as I recall). Other memorable songs on the '79 one include "What's Right," "Melanie Cries," and "Can't Imagine."

>No, xhuxk - the Two Sisters was sold as an album in the States, but was packaged/marketed in the UK as a 12" single by Morgan Khan's Streetwave label. <

But my point is, assuming it's the same record as the stateside one (which is what I thought you were saying, though maybe I misunderstood), it's still an album, not an EP, no matter how it was marketed and what bin it wound up in the stores. If there were fewer tracks, though, maybe it *was* an EP, obviously.

xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I've mentioned this here before - that Witch Queen's "Get It On" was in fact the FIRST (and for many years, only) version of that T.Rex chestnut that I knew. And it may still be my favourite. Also, it's something like the 75th disco classic from Chuck's 12" shelf that I recognized and once owned/still own in one form or another. (Anita Ward being #74!)

Myonga Von Bootee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

PPW, if anyone will know any other decent Anita Ward songs then you will, was she just a one and half hit wonder or should I dig more out? I'm trying to get hold of a track called 'Spoiled By Your Love' now. I just read that 'Ring My Bell' was originally written for Stacey Lattisaw. I luv Lattisaw so would like to hear her version, if she ever did actually sing it.

I think I read that too, but I have yet to dig further in that direction yet. Now I have a reason to!

This is the only track I have to my memory (I'd have to check the collection when I get home).

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...
Hey Guys,

David Werner released 4 records as far as I know:

1974 Whizz Kid
1975 Imagination Quota
1979 David Werner
1979 Live

I have the first three albums. Im right now listening to "Whizz Kid" which I got new two weeks ago. "Imagination Quota" is really awesome. A lot of Bowie influences in there. Pretty catchy stuff.

Greets from Germany,

Jan

Jan Gebauer, Sunday, 25 September 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...

Cold Shivers in Imagination Quota is a great song. It`s a shame
it`s so difficult to find anything by David Werner

Oscar Valle, Saturday, 4 March 2006 01:16 (twenty years ago)


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