how do you feel when someone says "i guarantee you won't like that record..."

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...when talking about a record you haven't heard yet.

does it irritate you that others see your tastes as having predictable boundaries? are you then spurred on to like the record?

or are you pleased that you have clearly-defined tastes, that others seem to pay attention to?

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 23 May 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

neither.
but those who know me well can often call this.
there is a certain pleasure (not competitive) in their having been wrong, though.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Monday, 23 May 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

No, I usually figure they know what they are talking about.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 23 May 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

does it irritate you that others see your tastes as having predictable boundaries?

I think everybody has some aspects of their tastes having predictable boundaries. Whether he or she wants to admit it or not is the key here.

Personally, I don't mind if someone does this me.. as long as I get the pleasure of laughing in his or her face when i end up liking or not minding the record.

THAT SAID... whether the brain immediately raises a self-defense mechanism that forces one to put down the knives to otherwise tear apart the record with words is a far more interesting topic.

It would be more sly if the person just played the record, got you to negatively react to it, then presented a piece of paper behind his or her back saying "I knew you would hate this record."

donut debonair (donut), Monday, 23 May 2005 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I usually bristle needlessly at the suggestion that I won't like something, immediately jumping to the conclusion that whomever is saying this is somehow taking a superior position and suggesting that he or she is more well-rounded and ecclectic than I am. I then go out of my way to hear the album and then -- sure enough -- realize that he or she was right in the first place, and that I loathe it. And then I feel stupid. Which happens a lot.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 23 May 2005 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

If people don't get mad at someone suggesting that they would definitely like a record, I don't see why they'd get mad at someone saying that they wouldn't.

whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Monday, 23 May 2005 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I think if they actually phrased it "I guarantee" I'd see it as a challenge.

Someone just saying "you won't like it" is fair warning: anyone who knows me would know I wasn't going to like, say, the Kaiser Chiefs. I worry more about people saying I'll love something, I feel there's great potential to let them down.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 23 May 2005 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

because (sometimes) it might imply a certain narrow-mindedness, or maybe a lack of sophistication.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 23 May 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

(in response to whenuweremine)

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 23 May 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

There's also the negativist aspect where a statement like that will only lead you to convince yourself that you like the record, just to prove them wrong.

Jena (JenaP), Monday, 23 May 2005 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

What I really hate is when someone says, "You're really gonna like this." They're wrong nine times out of ten.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Monday, 23 May 2005 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

There's also the negativist aspect where a statement like that will only lead you to convince yourself that you like the record, just to prove them wrong.

This is the aspect I want to discuss. What is it about people who are really into music (or even sports or anything) that makes them automatically defensive whenever someone else claims he or she will be guaranteed to like or dislike something? (I'm not saying this self-defense mechanism is a bad thing.. it's just one of those things that becomes harder to describe the more you think about it. Kinda like the "why does a mirror only reverse left and right" question, assuming you're not a math major.)

donut debonair (donut), Monday, 23 May 2005 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish people would say it more!

More often you have people raving about something in a "you should check this out way" when if they actually thought about what I like they'd know I would hate it!

Kilian otm about "lack of sophistication" perhaps, only a music snob would say "you won't like that record", because let's face it, the 12 CD person wants you to love their records and wants you to be the same as them, might even be offended if you're not.

I have this conversation, "I guarantee you won't like it" with my friends gf regularly, she always attempts to argue about music with me and it runs thusly

Her: "I am very open minded about music"
Me: "Ok, you just don't listen to all the stuff you would actually like if you did."
Her: "No I do like......that stuff"
Me: "No you don't"
Her: "Sometime I'll go to your club with Dave, he always says I won't like it though"
Me: "You won't"

etc etc etc

I think it's fair sometimes to have a guess, I eventually end up saying in the above row "OK you MIGHT like it but judging by what you do like and the fact that you're 24 and have never listened to any of that music of your own free will I am fairly sure you won't like it"

It kind of annoys me when people assume they will or do like something that they actually don't, for the sake of being "open minded" etc.

Open minded does NOT mean having no opinion on genres you've never heard!

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 23 May 2005 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it can depend on whether the person making the statement likes the record. if they *do* like the record, the assumption may be taken as a snobby "you wouldn't get this, you're not smart/open enough, like i am."

if not, there's more chance of it being a harmless "me and you are going to have such a chuckle together when you listen to this absolutely awful record." although there may be a slightly irritating assumption still, kinda "us music geeks will always agree on what's crap, won't we?"

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 23 May 2005 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

In most cases, that someone is way more likely to be right than all those saying "I guarantee you'll like that record".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 23 May 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)


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