Convince me that the Bravery, Bloc Party, Kaiser Chiefs and Franz Ferdinand are not the same band

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They all sound very, very similar to me... Have they ever been seen in the place at teh same time?

yr mom (yr mom), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

The Bravery and Franz Ferdinand are lame, Bloc Party and the Kaiser Chiefs aren't.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Umm - the same place at the same time.

yr mom (yr mom), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Kaiser Chiefs have a guy in a stupid hat!

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

They all steal their sctick from this band we used to listen to back in 19-dickety-6. Back then, we had to say dickety because the kaiser stole the word twenty, and...

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

they all played together on the Monsters of Megaphone tour with Dickie Cricketts.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose each band has their differences, but I bet if you threw all of the band members in a big bucket, shook it up, and poured out four seperate servings of indie rock, the results would still be pretty much sound the same.

darin (darin), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Bloc Party has a black frontman and they sound like Coldplay and Interpol, but even more bland.

That first Kaiser Chiefs single reminds me of The Clash and The Jam.

I'm not sure what to make of Franz Ferdinand and I haven't heard the Bravery.

Ian Riese-Moraine's Plateau Rouge! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

They don't actually sound like each other at all. Three of the four bands are (by and large) rub, but still...

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Bloc Party has a black frontman and they sound like Coldplay and Interpol, but even more bland.

Not fair! They sound like PiL.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

franz ferdinand are gay and sing songs abt it, bloc party are multiracial all different colors PC, kaiser chiefs are good and u don't have to worry about bravery since they'll be gone by next year

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Saying that these bands are less worthy because they all look and sound alike is rockist!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Good call, Spencer. All offending parties have been reported.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Not fair! They sound like PiL.
What? Maybe you're thinking post-Flower of Romance, though, which I still don't really hear.

Ian Riese-Moraine's Plateau Rouge! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Here are some flash cards for yr mom.

Kaiser Chiefs (I keep imagining an "after" picture with the bulldogs firmly attached to center dude's nads)
http://www.wolvescivic.co.uk/gigs/images/gigguide/Kaiser-Chiefs.jpg

Bloc Party
http://www.leftlion.co.uk/images/content/articles/smallimages/blocgreensmall.jpg

Franz Ferdinand
http://img.interia.pl/rozrywka/nimg/Franz_Ferdinand_franz_621858.jpg

The Bravery
http://www.ambitious-outsiders.com/dwnlow/bravery_dlt.jpg

darin (darin), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

it really bother me that there is no "K" in the bloc of bloc party...

...what gives? i thought k was a k-hip letter

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Or do they mean some other kind of bloc I am unaware of? ANSWER THIS TREND-LOVING ILM

Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Teh Bravery, Bloc Party, Kaiser Chiefs and Franz Ferdinand are emphatically not the same band!

They are all in fact The Music The Coral The Stills Maximo Park

That said, Vichitravirya XI pretty much OTM.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

So my question is, if you HAD to hang out with one of these bands for a whole weekend who would it be? I'd pick the Kaiser Chiefs, just because they look kind of dorky and I bet they'd have a lot of good PS2 games at their band house.

I'd eat a bullet before I'd spend five minutes with The Bravery.

darin (darin), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

My band played with the Kaiser Chiefs, and they were indeed fun. They let us drink their beer!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm, well that's to their credit. I'd happily hang out with the Bravery so I can hear them talk shit about the Killers.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I would hang out with the Kaiser Chiefs but I'd probably pretend that I had no real interest in music and didn't know they were in a band even, cos I'm not sure I could convincingly fake actually liking them. On the other hand then they might try to get me into their awful songs. This is hard! Could I wear a banana suit?

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I love you, Tom.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Vichitravirya XI -- it's a political pun. Bloc Party, Eastern bloc, political parties, etc? On their old website (I'm assuming they took it down when they became popular, because I can't find anything now), they went about calling each other 'comrades'. The bassist's been accused of being a communist a few times, too. :)

rondaview, Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i hung out with a kaiser chief a number of times a loooong time ago, he was a nice enough guy

notlido (gareth), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Granted, I've never met any member of Bloc Party, but they all seem (based on how they've carried themselves in interviews) like the type guys I'd strike up conversation with in the record shop or outside at a concert. Perhaps the same could be said for the Kaiser Chief guys.

Franz and Bravery members just seem like complete sceneters, and I hate scenesters.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Not "real" enough for you?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty bored of Bloc Party's whining already. The Arcade Fire singer needs to sound MORE ridiculous.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Franz Ferdinand are the one that sounds like a post-More Songs About Buildings And Food '64 Kinks. Bloc Party sound like a very earnest Adam And The Ants who've heard Franz Ferdinand. The Bravery sound like guys who have heard the Strokes and Franz Ferdinand or at least seen pictures. I haven't heard the Kaiser Chiefs and god I am in no rush.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

You definitely shouldn't be. You'll be annoyed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Though all of these bands (+Louis XIV et al) would be a lot more fun if they weren't expected to put out albums fergodsake.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Bloc Party has a black frontman....

I smell the subject of a new thread!

Cunga (Cunga), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Franz Ferdinand and they were completely nice to me when I drunkenly made them take pictures with me on my bday. Instead of just posing and brushing me off for the ho-ier girls, they actually stood around and spoke to me for several mins. It was very nice. The convo ended because I had to pee. Damn you bladder!

The Kaiser Chiefs pillow fighting video irks me to NO END.

I like Bloc Party because Seal goes to their shows.

The Bravery: I still haven't figured out what song they're ripping off with Honest Mistake. But every time I hear it I am disappointed by what it ends up being...not because it's that bad but because I could have sworn it was some other song.

rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

oh my god!!! indie rock bands aren't they lame!!!!

elwisty (elwisty), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Franz Ferdinand are the Fall but hipper.

Bloc Party are Joy Division but with a black guy.

Kaiser Chiefs just make me laugh because their lead singer is kind of fat, and fat British people are funny to me.

And I don't know anything about the Bravery.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

hipper than the fall doesn't really make any sense to me.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

It really makes the first round of this style seem so much better than what it was - Strokes, YYYs, Interpol, Liars, (even !!!)

Bloc Party are the Ocean Colour Scene of postpunk revivalism.

Gyse, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

The more I listen to Silent Alarm, the less it actually sounds like any kind of postpunk record. It's just a really good rock record.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Franz Ferdinand are the Fall but hipper

um, wha? dude, the fall are actually good!

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't mind the bravery (on the fence wr2 i "like them"). i don't really GET franz ferdinand -- or more precisely, why people are creaming their pants over them. haven't heard bloc party or kaiser chefs (though i may want to hear the former if indeed they sound like coldplay or interpol).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

some of these bands are proof that we are entering the hericane alice/steelheart portion of this musical trendlet. (guess which ones.)

maura (maura), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

british sea power?

strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

the common thread for all modern rock bands is that they once played ska

strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

or funk-o-metal

maura (maura), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

but then a man'skattaeat

strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

will any of these bands put out a record as good as this one

http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/dre800/e859/e859923bxam.jpg

I ASK YOU

(ps i'm not joking)

maura (maura), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

louis xiv will save us all

strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

the common thread for all modern rock bands is that they once played ska

!!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

read one spin this month!

strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

tears for fears also started out as a ska band!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I imagine all these bitter horn players all sitting around shooting up heroin after they got dumped from their bands, wondering if they could have only played along to the dulcet tones of...of...of whatever that one BS song the Kaiser Chiefs have about how their day job at Starbucks sucks or whatever it is.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i will never EVER tire of the phrase "but a nut with skabba the hut"

strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i just heard a mighty mighty bosstones song on the radio the other day -- i HOPE that all this does NOT mean that ANOTHER ska revival is at hand.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost)
british sea power?
-- strng hlkngtn (kasabia...), May 25th, 2005.

I protest! None of the acts mentioned in the thread title have anything that touches "Lately"

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 04:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Convince me that the Bravery, Bloc Party, Kaiser Chiefs and Franz Ferdinand are not the same band

booorrriiiinnnggggg

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I meant "hipper than the fall" in a noncomplimentary way--as in they dress according to what's fashionable and blah blah blah. Like the subject of "C.R.E.E.P.", actually.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Convince me that Dizzee Rascal, Kano, Roll Deep and Goodz are not the same artist!

hahahahahaha

zeus, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

god why do you bother paying attention?

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Bloc Party are great. Franz are okay. Bravery are awful. Haven't heard the Kaiser Chiefs.

Some of the comparisons made in this thread are so far off the mark that it makes me wonder if you dudes live in an alternate reality where the sea is made of jellybeans and Pauly Shore is president / prime minister / dictator for life.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 06:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Convince me that Garth Brooks and Chris Gaines are not the same artist!

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 06:17 (twenty-one years ago)

the bravery are such cocksuckers. and not good cocksuckers. bad ones. very very bad ones.

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 06:26 (twenty-one years ago)

although i often catch myself swaying and shimmying to "honest mistake" by the bravery. not pumping fists, only swaying and shimmying

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 06:30 (twenty-one years ago)

god why do you bother paying attention?
-- hstencil (hstenc!...), May 25th, 2005 2:47 AM. (hstencil) (link)

Because not everyone spends their time only listening to whacked out records that cost $100 used because only 58 copies exist in the world (or Thin Lizzy).

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 06:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Franz Ferdinand were fantastic for six months (before the songs got played to death) and were a superb live act (before the venues got too big). Their mega-success does them no favours (other than financial), because they don't have the necessary weight to sustain it.

Bloc Party are less pop/fun than Franz Ferdinand, and more self-consciously big/important. They're talented enough to transcend their post-punk influences, and I like their seriousness of intent. Probably my favourites of this year's post-punk influenced bunch.

Kaiser Chiefs are more pop/fun than Franz Ferdinand. They strike me a teen pop group in NME-guitar-band drag, with a kind of TV-friendly Monkees-esque cheery wackiness. Nice affable boys, in it for a laugh, no pretensions to art (which also differentiates them from FF and BP). Music for jumping up and down to at the indie disco. Nothing wrong with that per se, if that's what you're looking for.

The Bravery are fairly awful. Predictable influences, dumbly and characterlessly recycled. Boring songs, lumpen execution. Superficial, pretentious, derivative.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

hello i am going to say possibly my first OTM and it will be mke t-diva who will be on that money, especially about the Kaiser Chiefs, they're nearly as good as Menswe@r!! Nearly. Actually listen to the 'we@rs claasic album track Hollywood Girl then listen to any Kaisers song and notice the rather spooky resembalance.

elwisty (elwisty), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard a very convincing rumour about The Bravery being purely an EMI construct.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

odd, since they're signed to universal.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

actually, i believe that rumour if you substitute uni for emi.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

wheels within wheels, man...

N_RQ, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

b-b-ut the skatepunk past?

talking of which, has anyone heard Skatepunk Pasts new album, it sort of sounds like Interpol crossed with Secret Machines and Coachella Sun

charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

ie, not very good really

charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm getting multi-national conglomerates confused.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

the bravery are mister byrite, bloc party are the united colors of benetton, kaiser chiefs are topman and FF are DIOR

FACEBRACE (FACEBRACE), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

six years pass...

I heard a very convincing rumour about The Bravery being purely an EMI construct.

I wonder, did the rumour actually refer to The Departure as I heard that they were EMI employees ..

mark e, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:14 (fourteen years ago)

Chronically dull names for bands, you guys!

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:24 (fourteen years ago)

lol, I thought this revive might be about the glowing Popmatters review of the new Kaiser Chiefs album which caused me to cast a stinkeye in their direction this morning

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:38 (fourteen years ago)

glowing Popmatters review of the new Kaiser Chiefs album

mind officially boggled.

revived this cos i enjoyed the last radio 4 album earlier today (its a lot better than their dull second album), which has been in the archive for years and never listened to until today.
so was just killing time reading old punk funk related threads for possible pointers to other stuff that i may have missed out on.

mark e, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:42 (fourteen years ago)

Kaizer Chiefs actually have much more in common with The Kooks than with Franz Ferdinand and Bloc Party, no?
I like KC and FF while not too big on the other two in the thread title, but don't see them as musically similar at all.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:14 (fourteen years ago)

It's funny because Archduke Franz Ferdinand practically was a kaiser.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 8 March 2012 12:11 (fourteen years ago)

He never played for Kaiser Chiefs in South Africa though, so I guess he was no chief.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:42 (fourteen years ago)

All these bands are the worst

wham city bitch, wham wham city bitch (some dude) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

Basically these bands don't have much in common other than being white (apart from Kele Okereke) guys from UK with guitars.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 8 March 2012 21:11 (fourteen years ago)

The Bravery is an American rock band from New York City that consists of Sam Endicott (lead vocals, rhythm guitar), Michael Zakarin (lead guitar [also known as Moose], backing vocals), John Conway (keyboards, backing vocals), Mike Hindert (bass, backing vocals), and Anthony Burulcich (drums, backing vocals). Their music is a synthesis of both post-punk revival and New Wave.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 8 March 2012 21:18 (fourteen years ago)

In 2009, Seattle emcee Macklemore producer Ryan Lewis sampled the Bravery's song "Believe" for "Crew Cuts," a track that was an ode to 80's pop culture on their critically acclaimed project, The VS. EP.[25]

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 8 March 2012 21:20 (fourteen years ago)

Somehow their single Hatefuck didn't chart.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 8 March 2012 21:20 (fourteen years ago)

Kaiser Chiefs star Ricky Wilson is to join the stage show of War Of The Worlds

The singer will join the cast of the musical as The Artilleryman, a role made famous on Jeff Wayne’s hit 1978 album by David Essex.

It will be the first stage role for Wilson, whose band’s hits include Man On Mars and I Predict A Riot. Wilson, 34, said: ‘Jeff Wayne’s The War Of The Worlds is part of the musical landscape and I have always been a fan.'

andrew_wolfman_28, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:48 (fourteen years ago)

Hmm, what lofty heights did "Man on Mars" reach?

Mark G, Friday, 9 March 2012 14:38 (fourteen years ago)


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