S & D: Freddie Hubbard

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I think Red Clay is up there with some of Miles' best work (and so, one of the best jazz albums ever), but it's the only Hubbard record I have. What else is worthwhile?

(Did anyone else catch Stanley Crouch's profile of Sonny Rollins in the New Yorker two or three weeks ago? What a bad-ass.)

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I had a Freddie cd a number of years ago that was put out by 32 Jazz (sorry, I don't remember the name and it doesn't even appear to be on Allmusic, but I know it had Freddie Waits on drums). It was a live show clearly taken from a bootleg, all 10-20 min versions of standards, definitely from the 70s period where he was unbelievably confident about his chops and just blowing his ass off on these LONG solos. I'll have to see if I still have that around somewhere.

Other than that, I mostly like his sideman gigs like on Wayne Shorter's Speak No Evil, Hank Mobley's Straight No Filter, McCoy Tyner's 4x4, etc.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

as a leader i only have "hub-tones" - its considered one of his best but i rarely listen to it. couldn't hum you one of the themes. so i guess i don't like it much.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Hub-Tones is fantastic!

― mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i have Straight Life from 1970 w/george benson, ron carter, jack dejohnette, herbie hancock, joe henderson & richard "pablo" landrum that's amazing.

also Keep Your Soul Together from 73 is fab. there's a track that almost has the exact same bassline as Red Clay.

then i have First Light from 71 that i've hardly ever listened to

finally i have some odds and ends best of "Live & In the Studio" that has a live version of Red clay on it.

queerdly i don't have the album Red Clay even though i know that's one of his best. i just never felt like shoveling out the cash for it whenever i've seen it?

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Freddie absolutely rips shit up on Oliver Nelson's Blues and the Abstract Truth. For all the amazing playing on that record by all involved, his contributions still stand out.

I rented One Night With Blue Note a few months ago--his first solo (I think on "Cantaloupe Island") was just amazing, worth renting for that part alone. The guy's always on point.

― Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Ready for Freddie is amazing. I'm not sure if its avail. in the U.S., I ordered it japanese import a couple years back but it may have been rereleased here.

― deej., Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The tape where he tries it with the audience. "Kiss my ass, you white motherfuckers!"

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 05:19 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought that was Miles Davis? he's got that crazed heroin screechy voice.

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 05:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Open Sesame is the best.

― Zed Szetlian (Finn MacCool), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost)

No, definitely Freddie. It's on the Celebrities At Their Worst Vol 1 compilation.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, i got it off some Load Records (i think?) comp (labeled Miles) and they also had the Barry White one where he's trying to do a radio spot and just keep fucking up.

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that's on the same compilation - in fact it's got all the greats, including the Troggs Tapes, Orson Welles' Findus ad, Buddy Rich bawling his band out, Paul Anka being the only important one on that stage, Casey Kasem's "fucking dead dog" freakout, etc. etc.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 05:40 (twenty-one years ago)

not Load, Troubleman Records. he's calling them jive white motherfuckers, right?

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 05:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep, that's the one.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 05:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Search "In Concert" on CTI with Herbie Hancock, Jack DeJohnette, Ron Carter, & Stanley Turrentine.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 06:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and Sing Me A Song Of Songmy is pretty awesome.

Don't forget that Hubbard also holds the unique distinction of being the only musician to appear on both Ornette's Free Jazz and Coltrane's Ascension.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 06:32 (twenty-one years ago)

it seems like hubbard was on EVERY session for a few years ... but yes, peep his playing on herbie's 'empyrean isles' and 'maiden voyage'

― jake b. (cerybut), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 07:05 (twenty-one years ago)

For '80s soulboys he also plays the trumpet solo on "Feel So Real" by Steve Arrington.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Another side gig that he smokes: Tina Brooks' 'True Blue.'

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

And Out To Lunch by Dolphy.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Oooh, forgot he was on that. Damn, he really *was* everywhere.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

moremoremore. I prefer FH as a sideman.

Outward Bound -- Eric Dolphy
Maiden Voyage -- Herbie Hancock
Doin Allright -- Dexter Gordon
The Big Beat -- Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers
The Turnaraound! -- Hank Mobley
Stick-Up! -- Bobby Hutcherson

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 09:40 (twenty-one years ago)

He was on Free Jazz too, right?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah he plays on one of my favorite Blue Notes: Bobby Hutcherson's Dialogue. I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting.

― mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

He's quite good as part of Bill Evans' "Interplay" Quintet and the VSOP Quintet album.

― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force (Sparkle Motion's Rising Force), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and Sing Me A Song Of Songmy is pretty awesome

but only because of ilhan mimaroglu

― phil turnbull (philT), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Hubbard is excellent on Charles Earland's Leaving This Planet, especially "Brown Eyes" which he dominates.

― Jonathan (Jonathan), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

i have Straight Life from 1970 w/george benson, ron carter, jack dejohnette, herbie hancock, joe henderson & richard "pablo" landrum that's amazing

holy fuck. this record is incredible. u'd only heard some of the blue note albums and "backlash" when i picked this up - i am just blow away.

what do you all think of "blue spirits"?

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

weirdly enough i just got this too - only listened the once but its a lovely sound

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

I think I like the alternate, live version of Red Clay that's on the remastered cd better than the original. Possibly solely due to the fact that Billy Cobham is the drummer.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

hubbards great, good thing he didn't fall into the clifford brown, booker little, lee morgan deathtrap.

― ERIC LASKA (Ricky Ben-Udi), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...

vahid otm. Straight Life is kicking my ass all over the place. That pseudo-latin groove on the title cut is just amazing, you get totally caught up in it. And I love how it closes out with the short ballad after the two long shredders--perfect sequencing.

― Keith C (lync0), Saturday, 25 February 2006 18:05 (twenty years ago)

hubbards great, good thing he didn't fall into the clifford brown, booker little, lee morgan deathtrap.

He fell off hardcore though. I heard he can barely play any more.

― deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 25 February 2006 19:44 (twenty years ago)

eight years pass...

i didn't know it was FH on Coltrane's Ole, playing that super-romantic trumpet solo on To Her Ladyship. what else is good w/Hubbard in kinda early-ballad-Miles romantic mode?

― mustread guy (schlump), Saturday, 15 March 2014 23:49 (twelve years ago)

seven years pass...

maybe it’s lockdown but i just watched freddie hubbard do cantaloupe island with herbie hancock in 1985 on youtube and i cried.

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 April 2021 21:42 (five years ago)

Apparently I never told my Freddie Hubbard story on this thread

― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 9 April 2021 21:58 (five years ago)

...go on?

― sknybrg, Friday, 9 April 2021 22:09 (five years ago)

I was in high school or early in college maybe, on a trip to NYC and seeing the Louis Hayes Trio at Sweet Basil. There was barely anyone there, I think it must have been the early show. I'm sitting right behind the drums, and there's one guy waaay in back who keeps shouting requests & heckling the band. Mostly I remember him shouting "play Little Sunflower!"

Of course that turned out to be Freddie Hubbard, requesting his own tunes (and it was all in good fun of course). I got to talk to him for a minute and he was very nice & cool.

― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 9 April 2021 22:19 (five years ago)

when he was making requests for them to play his own tunes he should have implored the band to give "the poor dog a bone"!

― calzino, Saturday, 10 April 2021 00:23 (five years ago)

haha! nice story. freddie seems like a cool
dude. need to pull out my copy of red clay and give it a spin

― sknybrg, Saturday, 10 April 2021 05:22 (five years ago)

That's great.

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 10 April 2021 17:11 (five years ago)

amazing story <3

― brimstead, Saturday, 10 April 2021 20:18 (five years ago)

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