"Oasis hit is named 'best UK song'"

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According to some.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41199000/jpg/_41199023_oasis_index203.jpg

Let the fun begin.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

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Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

it's Virgin Radio = Zero Credibility = radio for Q magazine dummies

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

it's arguable.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"It is the perfect song to stick your arm around your mate and sing out at the top of your voice after a few beers," said DJ Pete Mitchell.

Yes. I remember this happening a lot at the time when out and about. It reminded me of the camaraderie that rugby players share. Oh, I tried to appear sucked into all this happiness, plastered on a fake smile to appease my fellow pissheads (alcohol, whatta drug!). But something always churned inside me that said loud & clear "this is _such_ bullshit".

I'm sure it was a 'moment' for a lot of people ... but it felt to me like the final nail in the coffin of some idea that had been really important in popular music and strangely powerful in late 80's/mid 90's popular music. Imagination, optimism & experimentation, multi-culturalism. I'm not sure ... most of this is textbook, and maybe not graspable to non-UK residents. Just feelings. I'm rambling.

I pretty much despise Oasis on a cultural/political level far, far more than I can rationalise by any analysis of their actual music and sometimes nice little songs (I'll give Noel that).

fandango (fandango), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

"Angels" = Wonderwall Part.2

fandango (fandango), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Direct me to ihatefun.com, I don't care :(

By far the most embarrasing, least defensible thing I've probably ever posted here. Oh well.

fandango (fandango), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

woah, never mind oasis. look at the rest of the list. what the fuck is that curveball at number 10?! heh, i rather like that.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

fandango otm. Oasis are, to me, the worst band to EVER EXIST for reasons which go way beyond their music (although that's uniformly dreadful too) - they represent so much which is rotten about British attitudes to culture and experimentation; a really, really horrible mindset, worse even than the world view of all these abysmal Britpop redux bands around at the moment.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

haha No 10 is the only song on that list I like!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps there's a Liber-teens skag fetish coming into fashion?

What kind of listener age range does Virgin have?

fandango (fandango), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Virgin Radio
http://www.virginradio.co.uk/

I would imagine most of their listeners would be male, 25 to 49 - who only enjoy trad songs based rock & pop music.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow....were Oasis really that big a deal?

Decent song, nowhere fucking near the best British song of all time...good to see the Stranglers...

woah, never mind oasis. look at the rest of the list. what the fuck is that curveball at number 10?! heh, i rather like that.
Perhaps there's a Liber-teens skag fetish coming into fashion?

FELLAS: DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE SNATCH MOTION PICTURE SOUNDTRACK!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 30 May 2005 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow....were Oasis really that big a deal?

Oasis are Britain's biggest guitar act since... I was going to say The Jam, but it's probably Slade. Or The Beatles. Or The Shadows. I'm not sure.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 30 May 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow....were Oasis really that big a deal?

Unfortunately, yes *mainstream* Britain in the mid to late 90s was bleak culturally. Paul Weller, Oasis, Texas, Ocean Colour Scene and later Stereophonics all enjoyed massive success.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 30 May 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Oasis were the pop Spacemen 3.

elwisty (elwisty), Monday, 30 May 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Oasis were the pop Spacemen 3.

???

Paul Weller, Oasis, Texas, Ocean Colour Scene and later Stereophonics all enjoyed massive success.

Texas is the band the David Brent's band opened for on The Office!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 30 May 2005 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

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What?!? Care to elaborate on that comparison, elwisty?

Well, I don't think it's such a bad thing to see Wonderwall at the top, but I'm speaking from the outside and don't quite understand this cultural aspect to what Oasis represent for some people. I would have been far more distressed to see Bohemian Rhapsody get it or the Zep or Lennon tracks. Remember - it could have been Careless Whispers! Then again, my expectations for something like this are already pretty low. The Stranglers at #10 is a most welcome surprise.

Anyone know where there's a list of all 100 songs?

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Monday, 30 May 2005 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

hell, i imagine.

grimly fiendish and his working-on-a-bank-holiday bad mood (grimlord), Monday, 30 May 2005 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

If this was a survey asking about "Best post 1985 UK song", then it might have been true. Of course, most of the best music was written before 1985 anyway.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 30 May 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok to elaborate, I have lost this message once, damn connection. Well this morning I was listening to Spacemen 3’s famed Taking Drugs To Make Music To Take Drugs To bootleg and I was not entirely unpleasantly reminded of a time in a friends car motoring down a dual carriage way with the first Oasis blaring out of a rather worse for wear stereo system. It was the same lack of dynamics, chugg chugg chugg an unrelentingly simple rhythm and melody combo head butting it’s way from beneath layers of feedback and fuzz. Oasis simply replaced the posh boy with a velvets album and a smack habit vibe with a portion of Baggy era cockiness and Slade, Status Quo blokes with a beer yobishness. With this winning combination they escaped the dreaded indie ditch that had ensnared so many others and reactivated the rock loving sector of the proletariat. By Wonderwall this quality was all but gone, yet for a glorious moment for they almost were The Spacemen Quo. It's a real shame they have never truly lived up to this promise.

elwisty (elwisty), Monday, 30 May 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

where is the top 10 ?

figbun boy, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I see no problems with this top ten. It is the correct answer for they are all melodic songs. No doubts you wanted it to be full of metal rap rubbish. Well here is the news flashing...nobody cares about it any more.

Comstock Carabinieri (nostudium), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)

one day i will explain why dance music fans liked oasis in the day. it's an empircally verifiable fact, it just needs explanation.

oasis were to 1995-6 what scissor sisters are today, i think. ie shit.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)

You are the ie shit if you think that Oasis were shit like the Scissors Sisters. They were melodic and musically unparalleled in the British pop movement since the Beatles. Also the Scissors Sisters have some melodic songs when they are not trying to copy the Bee Gees or Robbie Williams.

Comstock Carabinieri (nostudium), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

ELWISTY AMAZINGLY ENOUGH = OTM W/THEE SP3 COMPARISON THERE I THINK! a COMPELLING ARGMNT!!

"wonderwall", feh, you call that cup of piss a song?
I'd rather drink from the dick of a goat than ever listen to it again!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Then you are the cup of piss from the dick of a goat because no doubts you prefer the atonal gorilla noises of Limps Biscuits.

Comstock Carabinieri (nostudium), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Go fuck yourself, idiot.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

No you go fuck yourself idiot because you have no understand of proper music and should go back to listen to talentless tuneless metal monkeys like Hawkswind.

Comstock Carabinieri (nostudium), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Texas > Oasis.

Face it.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Edward anything in the world could be inserted into that equation instead of Texas and it would still be accurate!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

you aRE THE AWFUL LOT OF SHIT, "COMSTOCK".

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:23 (twenty-one years ago)

one day i will explain why dance music fans liked oasis in the day. it's an empircally verifiable fact, it just needs explanation.

they got a live review in an early Muzik. that's all i can muster wrt to supporting your theory though.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

This is inaccurate. For example:

James Brown < Oasis
Bob Marley < Oasis
All rappers < Oasis

Fact.

Comstock Carabinieri (nostudium), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

shortly to be followed by: tim burgess' love for the hip hop.

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N_RW, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

This was the Charlatans' downfall. Had they adhered to the blueprint for melodic British guitar pop music, instead of trying to emulate tuneless coloured trends, they might have produced some songs worth remembering.

Comstock Carabinieri (nostudium), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i have never heard 'stairway to heaven'. maybe i heard rolf harris' version, but i have never heard led zep's.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)

The better version than either of these was the Far Corporation's all-star 1985 cover single hit. It is better because it concentrates on the strong melody of the song and eliminates when Jimi Page tries to destroy it with metal din.

Comstock Carabinieri (nostudium), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Also the Scissors Sisters have some melodic songs when they are not trying to copy the Bee Gees or Robbie Williams.

Robbie Williams has certainly done his share of great melodies. Particularly early in his solo career.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

James Brown < Oasis
Bob Marley < Oasis

Whatever is the case, James Brown or Bob Marley may never have written the "best UK song" anyway. Bob Marley did a lot of truly great music, though, and, yes, he managed to keep his music melodic most of the time.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Geir vs. overexaggerated Geir parody!

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)


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