what is the black equivalent of the stooges' fun house? and if i like fun house and the stooges, what other albums/artists/bands will i like?

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i think its funkadelic's free your mind album for the black equivalent. as for the other question, i dunno, apart from mc5.

― percypisspants, Monday, 30 May 2005 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

"the black equivalent"

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 30 May 2005 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

SLEATER KINNEY'S THE WOOODS.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 30 May 2005 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

you might also like:

Blue Cheer Vincebus Eruptum
Royal Trux Thank You or Veterans of Disorder or Cats & Dogs or Accelerator or...
Black Sabbath?

― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 30 May 2005 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Funkadelic...Maggot Brain maybe?

You might like: Come Down Heavy by Thee Hypnotics.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 30 May 2005 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0006A86NC.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― strng hlkngtn, Monday, 30 May 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

not lil jon.

― percypisspants, Monday, 30 May 2005 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

some more:

olneyville sound system "on safari"
thee hydrogen terrors "terror, diplomacy and public relations"
comets on fire "blue cathedral" (slightly less scuzz, more psych; but undeniably heavy and groovy.)

― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 30 May 2005 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

for your "black equivalent", i'd second maggot brain as the closest in time & space & general feel, though "there's a riot going on" by sly & the family stone has a somehow related stoned death-of-the-sixties bleakness, though maybe less skronky. if you like funhouse, you might also like you some captain beefheart? or gris gri, the album by dr john? or gris gris, the new band from oakland? none of which sound like funhouse, but maybe share a certain woozy evil red wine & persian carpet in the studio sort of psychedelic aesthetic.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

also listen to Chrome! sci-fi stooges

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i totally agree w/strongo.

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Les Rallizes Denudes

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i was working late, really stressed out and i needed to walk and vent and i had nothing heavy on my ipod at the time so i put on Crunk Juice and all was fine

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

1st Ash Ra Tempel album

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Black Acid Rock - S/D
Heavy Riffage - s/d

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

The Heat. Mostly black-American p-rock/transvestite/amphetamined bloozoid hard rock band out of NYC late-70's. Probably never recorded except for a single called "Instant Love." Saw them several times, they were loud, bleak, drugged and thwarted exactly like the Stooges.

Not likely "Maggot Brain" which has much more in common with guitar virtuosity and riffic Jimi Hendrix. Funkadelic slumming sometimes sounded like Cactus. Eddy to thread.

― George Smith, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

*jaw drops* Oh, for a tape of a show.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Lotsa good choices so far! Here's three more that all remind me of Fun House in varying ways (or, at least ONE way), funky and noisy and improv-heavy.
http://66.116.134.119/locaweb/images/discos/OrnetteColeman_DancingInYourHead.jpg http://www.scrammagazine.com/flesheaters.jpg http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd000/d067/d067345bq7t.jpg

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Tauhid -- Pharoah Sanders. Especially "Upper Egypt & Lower Egypt" which features Sonny Sharrock on gtr and was covered by the Stooges circa Funhouse (also by MC5 a couple yrs previous).

The Heat sound great! Where have they been all my life?

The Cult Heroes were a Detroit/Ann Arbor band in the late 70s whose lead singer Hiawatha Bailey ("I was the only gay black member of the White Panthers") modeled his act on Iggy Pop. They got good after awhile -- great drummer -- but only recorded a few OK singles.

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Funhouse was an absurd drug-abused inferno of tuneless racket. Iggy Pop is not worth taking seriously until he came under the sobering influence of Bowie and started crafting melodic rock-pop anthems such as Lust For Life and I Am The Passenger.

― Comstock Carabinieri (nostudium), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:24 (twenty-one years ago)

James Brown was a major influence on The Stooges at the time of recording. The first Funkadelic album is definitely worth a listen too.

― wtin, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

This is incorrect, as both were painful examples of what happens when coloured musics breaks away from the melodic structures which Europe gave to them as consolation for not be slaves any more.

― Comstock Carabinieri (nostudium), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i think free your mind is the album closest to fun house, its just as loose, dirty, fucked up sounding, and bizarrely simmers rather than typically rock out to the max. its great. the other funkadelic albums arent as messy.

― blahbariantheoriginal, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i meant, closest as in 'the black equivalent'.

― blahbariantheoriginal, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Funhouse was an absurd drug-abused inferno of tuneless racket.

You have dogshit in your ears.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)

No you are the have dogshit in your ears because you love monkey noise is inferior to I love melodic music. Fact.

― Comstock Carabinieri (nostudium), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

if i like fun house and the stooges, what other albums/artists/bands will i like?

Rocket From The Tombs? Mudhoney's Superfuzz Big Muff? Spacemen 3's Perfect Prescription?

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

This Comstock Carabinieri character is turning into full-blown Tony Clifton/Steev Mike weirdness.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 12:06 (twenty-one years ago)

iggy pop is the wu-tang clan

― Nic de Teardrop (Nicholas), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"on the corner" by miles davis

― chris besinger (chris besinger), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, it's not an album, but a good answer to both of your requests is "Allah Wakbarr" by Ofo the Black Company, as can be heard on the Nigeria 70 comp and Luaka Bop's new Afropop disc. That's probably the closest I've ever heard to a Fun House-worthy track, black or otherwise, not actually performed by the Stooges.

There's a lot of stuff out there that kinda approximates the FH sound, but pretty much all of it falls short to my ears. That album is just such a singular accomplishment as far as complete synthesis of rock, funk, jazz, noise, etc., that it's virtually impossible to replicate. The mistake most bands make is amping up the aggression at the expense of the rhythm, which is both the most commonly ignored element of their sound and what made them so great in the first place!

OTOH, Funkadelic are amazing, so you should check them out, as they do definitely have a heavy Detroit rock thing going on their first few albums. Sabbath, Chrome, the Birthday Party, early Alice Cooper, heavy James Brown (like "Get Up, Get Into It, Get Involved"), Pharoah Sanders, Sonny Sharrock, Scientists, AC/DC, Blue Cheer, Mudhoney, Monoshock, the Jesus Lizard, Hendrix, Black Flag, electric Miles, and Flipper are all good places to investigate also, working the heavy noise + rhythm equation in varying proportions.

― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"Allah Wakbarr" does indeed kill.

For skronk & nihilistic fuck-it feel, I'll say Nation Time by Joe McPhee.

― brianiac (briania), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Funhouse was a singular record
but imo the prototype for it (as well as punk-funk in general) was"Superbad" by James Brown Check also the "Revolution of the Mind" album

― o.g. blackrocker (o.g. blackrocker), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

five years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCdal_NJnAk

― donut pitch (m coleman), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

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