I dont see whats wrong with the AIDS campaigns. He wants to do something good, good for him. Its not like he's pulling a Bono or something (note: I dont even like the new album)
― deej.., Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― dumbest, Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link
If a black man wishes to engage in casual sex with a white woman, he must agree to giggle about it whenever the topic arises.
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link
BN: I don't hate you! I just think you're a menace to rhetoric. (heh)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost -- Banana, it's full of weird assumptions about why black people wind up dating white people; it's easy to call blacks (especially successful ones) who date whites "sell-outs," but the fact is that in most cases (especially for young women), certain kinds of "success" mean having fewer and fewer black people in your social circle (not to mention all the middle-class blacks who grew up around white people their whole lives anyway). But really, what's this stuff about "libido calling out?" All he said is that he's slept with white women and presumably women of various races, but that he's only wound up having relationships with black women. Pretending, like the thread title does, that this is programmatic is as bad as the strawman assumption that he's making, which is that black people who mostly date white are being programmatic about it, instead of maybe sometimes just winding up there through neutral circumstance.
― nabiscothingy, Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link
(xpost: Nabisco desperately OTM about the intellectual level of ILX)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― dumbest, Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost if his dick is just lying somewhere, then that's hardly the point is it?
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link
1. I, Common, am a little unnerved by how common it is for dreadlocked black dudes to have white girlfriends - to the point of this trope being a stereotype. I don't like it.1a. If these guys date exclusively white girls, they are sending a bad message to black women young & old, thereby damaging a community that is already at a disadvantage in many ways.1b. It is my opinion that therefore they shouldn't do this.
2. Mixed relationships are OK by me but I think it's better for black people to love each other.2a. I personally have not had relationships with women of other races, but that doesn't mean I won't toss 'em the ol' hog every now and then.2b. However: "To say ‘I only deal with these type of people’ has gotta be a problem."
3. wtf
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link
I mean, my line: (a) people who date a particular other race in a programmatic way are a bit suspect, but more importantly (see "White Men who Only Date Asian Women" thread); but then also (b) making the assumption that strangers are being programmatic about such things, without concrete evidence, is suspect in a much meaner way.
― nabiscothingy, Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes. (xposted now, but I'm posting anyway)
Common's thesis is that adopting black power signifiers while refusing to date black people is really fucking odd and self-loathing. He doesn't have anything against interracial relationships or hookups (he himself has had interracial hookups) but he thinks that people going into those relationships should do so because they love the other person, not because of self-image baggage.
I know a woman who flat-out told us that she would marry a white man who beat her over a black man who treated her like a goddess because she didn't want her kids to be as dark as her. I don't know if she still feels that way but surely that doesn't strike you as a healthy outlook on interracial dating? This is the type of thing Common is talking about.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost (was replying to oops): fair enough Dan
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― markgreen, Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― icecube, Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost haha icecube yeah you're right that white boy Dan Perry, he sure does talk a lot o' shit
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― deej.., Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― nabiscothingy, Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― nabiscothingy, Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― blahbariantheoriginal, Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm not.
― Vestigial Appendages, Esq. (King Kobra), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vestigial Appendages, Esq. (King Kobra), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Don Rowlando (Sam Rowlands), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cunga (Cunga), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Norris, Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― bettyboo (papa la bas), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
yawn, when common goes to the doctors or wherever, he ticks mixed race in the ethnicity box. he is BLACK. no one is tracing that far back. stop with this hippified, 'hey were all just humans maaaaan' nonsense.
― blahbariantheoriginal, Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, totally dude. Black people are monkeys.
― Senor Grubby, Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― no, seriouly, the dumbest, Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link
So, Common walks down the street, sees a black guy with a white girl. Based on this information, he makes a judgement about the black man's attitude toward his own race. That's shitty.
I'm in an interracial couple, and I really don't like the idea that someone thinks they've got me pegged because of my girlfriend's skin color.
― Super Cub (Debito), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link
yeah, i'm pretty much diggin' the mark green commentary; kinda reminds me of that meek dude on the "de la soul is dead" skits, only instead of "i kinda like it/(SMACK!)", its "no serious- i'm kinda jealous(*slinks away*)
"most sell out, like a dread with a white girl"-dread>>>>>>>dreadlocks. dread= David Hinds/dreadlocks= Malcolm Jamaal Warner; irony is singing songs of Garveyism and black power, then leaving the set with a Suze Orman look-alike...ain't love/lust a muthaCROCKA?.
"Have you ever dated outside your race?Nah, not dated (giggles)."-a rock star who's fucked randomly. AMAZING! no wait- a man who fucks against his politics? STROM-AZING!
"Dealing with having sex with a white girl is something I have encountered and im not acting like white girls and other races are not people."-awkward verbal dance around the "yup, i bone white girls!" facts...
but my favorite parts of this thread are the initial "common said WHAT?! well, his album sucks!" posts in the beginning.
ps. wait'tilyouseemy... *giggles*
― natlawdp, Friday, 10 June 2005 00:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― natlawdp, Friday, 10 June 2005 00:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― natlawdp, Friday, 10 June 2005 00:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link