Luther Vandross RIP

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CNN just announced it. :-(

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 July 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

oh no!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 1 July 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

rip luther. if loving you was wrong, i don't wanna be right.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 1 July 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

that's luther ingram

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 1 July 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

so

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Friday, 1 July 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

it's the thought that counts

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Friday, 1 July 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Awww. Sad.

M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 1 July 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

dammit, i thot vandross did a version too. well, anyway, rip. dude ruled.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 1 July 2005 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Today has just been a pipe flow of bad news refuse. :( :(

donut e- (donut), Friday, 1 July 2005 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Dead from a stroke. Only 54.

Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Friday, 1 July 2005 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Not to be insensitive, but did this have anything to do with this?

Nestor Smegma, Friday, 1 July 2005 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

:(
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geeta, Friday, 1 July 2005 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

R.I.P.

jmeister (jmeister), Friday, 1 July 2005 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

O dear god.. I'm never eating at Krispy Kreme's again. (all respect to the Van man)

donut e- (donut), Friday, 1 July 2005 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Awful. I just bought the Essential Luther Vandross four days ago.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 1 July 2005 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link

at least this wasn't named after him:

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/i/news/anatomy-of-a-hamdog.jpg

the underground homme (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 1 July 2005 22:16 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, I started getting serious about searching out those Rick James albums on CD months before he died as well. :/

donut e- (donut), Friday, 1 July 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

(obv, James and Vandross being very very different, but both were pioneers, without question)

donut e- (donut), Friday, 1 July 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

also-- how exactly did Luther Vandross "fuck up the West Coast"?

Nestor Smegma, Friday, 1 July 2005 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link

good tihng the AP folk were properly respectful:

R&B Crooner Luther Vandross Dies at 54

kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 1 July 2005 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link

my brush with Luther:

While working at Dunkin Donuts on Carnaby St. in London, Luther called up (well, someone called for Luther) and ordered 3 dozen donuts. I thought they were for the whole band to be shared backstage but they were delivered to his hotel room before noon. 3 dozen! 2 individual sugary rings filled me up but 3 dozen!!! Can't be good for you.

etiher way, RIP Luther, may heaven have a fresh batch waiting for you.

biz, Friday, 1 July 2005 23:28 (eighteen years ago) link

my mom is crushed :(

strng hlkngtn, Friday, 1 July 2005 23:48 (eighteen years ago) link

He might have had more than one person in his hotel room, if you know what I mean.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 2 July 2005 00:26 (eighteen years ago) link

mine too jess :(

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 2 July 2005 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link

What did he sing with Chic?

Mark (MarkR), Saturday, 2 July 2005 01:38 (eighteen years ago) link

One of the few humans I could stand to listen singing over *anything*. Schlocky strings, awful sax, belltree & DX-7 panoramas - the whole gamut of cheeseball adultcontempo r&b arrangements ...if Luther sang over them it was heavenly. RIP.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 2 July 2005 01:44 (eighteen years ago) link

(xpost) Don't know about Chic but, man, those Change records he sang on are 4ever classic.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 2 July 2005 01:45 (eighteen years ago) link

he was on at least the first and maybe the 2nd Chic album. R.I.P.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 2 July 2005 03:03 (eighteen years ago) link

he always seemed both tortured and decent, a rare combination. and def. a fantastic singer as well.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 2 July 2005 03:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Huge bummer. RIP. Listening to "Never Too Much" right now...

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 2 July 2005 04:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i just listened to the wosname love double cd best of on thursday! rip. never too much was a really important record for me.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 2 July 2005 04:42 (eighteen years ago) link

jay vee otm.

stevie (stevie), Saturday, 2 July 2005 06:34 (eighteen years ago) link

one of the best things in life was you.
miss you.
at least you'll be with your father.

bell biv devoe, Saturday, 2 July 2005 06:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Alex in NYC, you are in my thoughts.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Saturday, 2 July 2005 06:50 (eighteen years ago) link

He looks awfully svelte on the "Dick Cavett" performance of "Young Americans" from the 'Best of Bowie' DVD.

And he really knew how to work a room on his own. Rest in peace.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 2 July 2005 07:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Alex in NYC, you are in my thoughts.

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RIP Luther. I don't know your music as well as I would like, but your voice was simply amazing.

Could someone explain to the person who wrote that AP piece that "deep-voiced tenor" is an oxymoron?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 4 July 2005 06:31 (eighteen years ago) link

b-b-but hootie is a deep-voiced tenor!

the underground homme (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 4 July 2005 06:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Alex in NYC, you are in my thoughts.

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dan alex made a comment on another thred about loving some cheesy luther song from some movie - and loving luther.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Monday, 4 July 2005 06:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Extremely sad news with which to begin a week. "The Other Side Of The World" (last track on The Night I Fell In Love) is one of the most beautiful pieces of "soul" music ever sung by anyone. The way in which his voice/person slowly merges with the cosmos of Marcus Miller's production makes you think that the song could go on forever.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 4 July 2005 06:38 (eighteen years ago) link

listened to "House is not A Home" the other night and almost cried. amazing voice, vision, control.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 4 July 2005 06:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Brilliance fades far too early. You're missed already, LV.

Negativa, True Believer (Sheryl Crow in a Britney costume) (Barima), Monday, 4 July 2005 07:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't believe nobody has mentioned this yet

StanM (StanM), Monday, 4 July 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"deep-voiced tenor" = high baritone

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Is the use of "lifelong bachelor" here the subject of at least a paragraph in the NY Times stylebook?


A Seducer in Song, No Lechery Required
By KELEFA SANNEH

When Luther Vandross died on Friday, having never fully recovered from a stroke he suffered in 2003, he was remembered fondly and unanimously. Artists, friends and fans paid tribute to one of the era's great crooners; Patti LaBelle summed up the mood when she told MTV, "He was one of the greatest voices that ever sang a song."

No one who has heard Mr. Vandross glide through "A House Is Not a Home," his career-defining 1981 ballad, will be inclined to argue with that assessment. But as the accolades roll in, it's worth remembering that when he was alive Mr. Vandross was a more vexing figure, sometimes viewed with suspicion by critics and listeners who were ambivalent about (or hostile to) the era he represented: an era in which 1970's soul had given way to 1980's R&B.

In his 1988 book, "The Death of Rhythm & Blues," the critic Nelson George saves Mr. Vandross for the final chapter, "Assimilation Triumphs, Retronuevo Rises (1980-87)." Although he doesn't slight Mr. Vandross's voice or music, Mr. George links his success to the decline of the black music industry. He notes that Mr. Vandross "put out albums without the aid of black retailers," and counts him (alongside Lionel Richie, Michael Jackson, Prince and others) among the early-80's black pop stars who "relied on white figures for guidance."

Last month, the cultural critic Mark Anthony Neal wrote the first in a series of articles about "The Slow Decline of R&B" (published online at www.popmatters.com), in which he suggested that Mr. Vandross helped move R&B away from its roots: "By coyly distancing himself from the black gospel vocal tradition, which grounded so much of the soul music of the 1960's and 1970's, Vandross cemented his appeal as the quintessential R&B singer."

There's an underlying suggestion in these appraisals that Mr. Vandross was somehow too smooth for his own good and that he was too eager to leave black musical traditions behind. And yet Mr. Vandross himself spoke bitterly about his failure to become a mainstream pop star; even when he was collaborating with David Bowie, he remained throughout his marvelous career a "quintessential R&B singer," and he helped generations of singers and listeners understand that the title wasn't faint praise.

While Mr. Vandross's grittier soul-man predecessors used vocal quirks - a rasp, a shout, a roar - to assert their presence as singers and as seducers, Mr. Vandross wasn't nearly as pushy: his voice was so silky you could almost forget that it came from a real person. Not coincidentally, Mr. Vandross (who struggled with his weight throughout his life) was never a conventional heartthrob; he was a lifelong bachelor whose fanatical female fans swooned more for the songs than for the singer.

For Ms. LaBelle and lots of other fans, Mr. Vandross was first and foremost a disembodied voice, which is part of the reason he remains the gold standard in make-out music: you can bring him into your bedroom without worrying that he'll steal the show. And that's part of the reason so many of his best songs had an undercurrent of melancholy. For a disembodied voice, love is always unconsummated; even his most passionate songs were somehow untainted by lechery.

All of this could have conspired to make Mr. Vandross irrelevant in our current, lechery-obsessed era. R&B's current king, R. Kelly, thrills fans by reminding them of his body and what it wants; you invite him into your bedroom at your peril (which is part of the fun). And yet Mr. Vandross was surprisingly versatile: he sounded equally comfortable over a disco beat or a hip-hop track, as he proved on his great, self-titled 2001 album, as well as the sometimes-great 2003 follow-up, "Dance With My Father," which included collaborations with Busta Rhymes and Beyoncé.

But the best of all the recent Luther Vandross songs wasn't really a Luther Vandross song at all. It was "Slow Jamz," a collaboration between Kanye West, Twista and Jamie Foxx. The song was built around a snippet of one of Mr. Vandross's ad-libs from the end of "A House Is Not a Home." It's a quick little vocal run - "Are you gonna be/ Say you're gonna be/ Are you gonna be/ Say you're gonna be/ Are you gonna be/ Say you're gonna be/ Well, well; well, well" - but Mr. West made it faster to emphasize the syncopation, slyly speeding up a slow-jam specialist.

The lyrics pay tribute to the history of make-out music, with Mr. Vandross as Exhibit A. For listeners who still don't know how a Luther-enhanced seduction is supposed to work, Mr. West sums it up: "I'm-a play this Vandross/ You gon' take your pants off." This was, in its own shameless way, yet another classic Luther Vandross moment, and by no means the last. The man himself was missing, but his warm, achy voice seemed closer than ever.

Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't believe nobody has mentioned this yet

actually, that was mentioned upthread.

a, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Shhh! I was hoping nobody would notice! :-/

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

YOU GUYS. THIS IS A FUCKING MASTER AT WORK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu2JBMNBbKo

The Reverend, Friday, 23 May 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

check out how proud Dionne is!

The Reverend, Friday, 23 May 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

Damn right.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 May 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link

man that is the best music

Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 23 May 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

I adore this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc7mfAsNao4

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 May 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link

four years pass...

this video, w/ luther chroma key'd into scenes from ruthless people, is something else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtIhcbR7COw

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 07:32 (five years ago) link

such a deathless song tho

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 07:32 (five years ago) link

The chorus is a blast of perfectly calibrated torment.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 March 2019 10:44 (five years ago) link

i don't hear any torment.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link

wait, lol, wrong thread! yes, torment!

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link


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