Oran "Juice" Jones: Classic or Dud?

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You without me is like corn flakes without the milk!

This is my world. You're just a squirrel trying to get a nut!

"The Rain" (from Juice, his 1986 debut) is of course classic. I think I remember Rolling Stone (!?!?) giving 1989's To Be Immortal a four-star review, but it tanked anyway and though he's released at least one album since then he seems more or less forgotten.

Is his current obscurity deserved, or did something go tragically sideways in what should have been a brilliant career?

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

er, http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/pic200/drp000/p092/p09275q5ohs.jpg

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Aht, don't. touch. that. coat!

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

cuz you cold busted!

he caught them, um, holding hands. *sputter, fizzle* he'll never be the same.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

I wish I could remember the intro to "Curiosity" right about now.

It's approximately, "So, girl, the next time you get curious, why not get curious about putting on some make-up? Get curious about catching the bus on time. Get curious about finding yourself a job."

His second album was called "GTO: Gangsters Takin' Over".

Rob Upt1ght., Wednesday, 27 July 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

If you can't tell, that's a resounding "C" to "The Rain" and to at least the intro of "Curiosity"! The rest of that song was blaaargh.

Rob Upt1ght., Wednesday, 27 July 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

Dud, if only for the countless times in my youth when I was searching desperately for Orange Juice records and came across Oran Juice jones records instead.

I've never heard him, but I have such a chip on my shoulder towards him for dashing my hopes so many times that I'd never be able to give him a fair shake.

rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Yo, "Curiosity" rules, especially slowed down.

Gavin, Wednesday, 27 July 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

The Rain is completely freaking classic. So much so, that just seeing the man's name makes me smile, which makes him classic too. That video was totally on some Trapped In The Closet 20 years too soon.

Candicissima (candicissima), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

The Rain is the only song I've heard, but for that alone he is classic.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

further discussion:
Oran Juice Jones

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

Thanks! I probably should have revived, but it seemed to veer off-topic so quickly... This one, however, I wish I'd seen before:

I saw you (and him) walking in the rain...

Oddly, the phrase "Oran 'Juice' Jones" appears nowhere in the thread (is how I missed it the first time out).

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

Haha, my experience is identical to rentboy's. Dud based on that alone!

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

Bought this on vinyl (well I suppose that's a tad obvious) for 25p a few weeks back, absolutely brilliant stuff. Had me and my sister singing along like loons, then collapsing in fits of laughter as we tried to remember the talky bit at the end:

"I was about to jam you and flat blast both of you
But I didn't wanna mess up this thirt-seven hundred dollar lynx coat
So instead I chilled -- That's right chilled
I called up the bank and took out every dime"

Ooh, have some of that you bloody cow!

M Rissbrook (Koorbssir), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

i think it deserves to be fully reproduced in this thread as well lest we forget it's greatness.


Hey, hey, baby how ya doin'? Come on in here. Got some hot chocolate on the stove waiting for you. Listen, first thing's first. Let me hang up the coat. Yeah, how was your day today? Did you miss me? You did? Yeah? I missed you too. I missed you so much I followed you today. That's right -- now close your mouth 'cause you cold busted. Now just sit down here, sit down here. I'm so upset with you I don't know what to do. Y'know my first impulse was to run up on you -- and do a Rambo. I was about to jam you and flat-blast both of you, but I didn't wanna mess up this $3700 lynx coat! So instead I chilled. That's right, chilled. I called up the bank and took out every dime. Then I cancelled all your credit cards. I stuck you up for every piece of jewelery I ever bought you! Don't go lookin' in that closet, 'cause everything you came here with is packed up and waiting for you in the guest room. What were you thinking? You don't mess with the Juice! I gave you silk suits, blue diamonds and gucci handbags. I gave you things you couldn't even pronounce! But now I can't give you nothing but advice. Cause you're still young -- yeah -- you're young. And you're gonna find somebody like me one of these days. Until then, you know what you gotta do? You gotta get on outta here with that alley- cat-coat-wearing, punch-bucket-shoe-wearing crumbcake I saw you with. 'Cause you dismissed! That's right, silly rabbit -- tricks are made for kids, don't you know that? You without me is like corn flakes without the milk! This is my world! You're just a squirrel trying to get a nut! Now get on outta here. Scat! Don't touch that coat!

-- Andy K (andke...), May 9th, 2002.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

Remember when Juice gave that interview to Spin magazine where he went into great detail about his teenage life of crime? THAT should turn up in one of these compilations of rock criticism that hits the stands every so often. If you could crossbreed Eazy-E and Luther Vandross, Oran "Juice" Jones would be the result.

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Thursday, 28 July 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

Hey, hey, baby how ya doin'? Come on in here. Got some hot chocolate on the stove waiting for you. Listen, first thing's first. Let me hang up the coat. Yeah, how was your day today? Did you miss me? You did? Yeah? I missed you too. I missed you so much I followed you today. That's right -- now close your mouth 'cause you cold busted. Now just sit down here, sit down here. I'm so upset with you I don't know what to do. Y'know my first impulse was to run up on you -- and do a Rambo. I was about to jam you and flat-blast both of you, but I didn't wanna mess up this $3700 lynx coat! So instead I chilled. That's right, chilled. I called up the bank and took out every dime. Then I cancelled all your credit cards. I stuck you up for every piece of jewelery I ever bought you! Don't go lookin' in that closet, 'cause everything you came here with is packed up and waiting for you in the guest room. What were you thinking? You don't mess with the Juice! I gave you silk suits, blue diamonds and gucci handbags. I gave you things you couldn't even pronounce! But now I can't give you nothing but advice. Cause you're still young -- yeah -- you're young. And you're gonna find somebody like me one of these days. Until then, you know what you gotta do? You gotta get on outta here with that alley- cat-coat-wearing, punch-bucket-shoe-wearing crumbcake I saw you with. 'Cause you dismissed! That's right, silly rabbit -- tricks are made for kids, don't you know that? You without me is like corn flakes without the milk! This is my world! You're just a squirrel trying to get a nut! Now get on outta here. Scat! Don't touch that coat!

-- Andy K (andke...), May 9th, 2002.

-- andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:17 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 22 November 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

fun to throw in stuff like "i could kill you AND that waiter" and "kato ain't gonna hear shit" when doing this at karoke.

da croupier, Thursday, 22 November 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

My friends and I used to have a game where we had to say the and him bit from The Rain in as many different comedy ways as possible. We spent entire afternoons roffling like bastards.

Madchen, Thursday, 22 November 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

.. hush puppies.. da alleycat crumbcake was wearin hush puppies shoes

you dismissed !

tramp steamer, Friday, 23 November 2007 07:00 (eighteen years ago)

seven years pass...

close your mouth because you're cold busted

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 21:53 (eleven years ago)


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