Stockhausen's remark about the destruction of the World Trade Center

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After 9/11 he made a comment about the Devil being an artist and the World Trade Center being his greatest work -- What exactly did he say and what was the context? Very old quote I know but I can't find anything definitive.

Mark (MarkR), Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

"[The attacks of September 11 were] the greatest work of art in the cosmos … compared to that, we composers are nothing.”

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Karlheinz_Stockhausen

Claims it was distorted and wrote a message explaining the comments which is linked on the above page.

jared22, Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

"The greatest work of art there’s ever been. That people rehearse like crazy for 10 years, totally fanatically for one concert, and then die! Compared to this, we are nothing as composers."

Anti-Pope Consortium (noodle vague), Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

http://www.stockhausen.org/message_from_karlheinz.html

walter kranz (walterkranz), Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

And that might've been an ill-judged thing to say, but he had a point.

Anti-Pope Consortium (noodle vague), Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

his point is a rockist one!

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

To a man with a hammer, I guess everyone is a carpenter. On the other hand, he's a fucking tool.

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

Professor Karlheinz Stockhausen
51515 Kürten
GERMANY
Message from Professor Karlheinz Stockhausen


After returning from Hamburg I find false, defamatory reports in the press.

I am as dismayed as everyone else about the attacks in America.

At the press conference in Hamburg, I was asked if MICHAEL, EVE and LUCIFER were historical figures of the past and I answered that they exist now, for example Lucifer in New York.

In my work, I have defined Lucifer as the cosmic spirit of rebellion, of anarchy. He uses his high degree of intelligence to destroy creation. He does not know love.

After further questions about the events in America, I said that such a plan appeared to be Lucifer's greatest work of art. Of course I used the designation "work of art" to mean the work of destruction personified in Lucifer. In the context of my other comments this was unequivocal.

I cannot find a fitting name for such a "satanic composition". In my case, it was not and is not my intention to hurt anyone. Since the beginning of the attack onward I have felt solidarity with all of the human beings mourning this atrocity.

Not for one moment have I thought or felt the way my words are now being interpreted in the press.

The journalist in Hamburg completely ripped my statements out of a context, which he had not recorded in its entirety, to use it as a vile attack against my person and the Hamburg Music Festival.

This whole situation is regrettable and I am deeply sorry if my remarks were misconstrued to offend the grieving families of the brutal terrorist attacks on New York City and Washington D.C. I will continue to keep the victims of this outrage in my prayers

Karlheinz Stockhausen
September 19, 2001
Statement by Webmaster

Stockhausen's comments during the Hamburg interview were delivered in the context of a metaphoric line of questioning. He provided an allegorical answer to an allegorical question.

Anyone who knows Stockhausen can tell you that he is a compassionate and thoughtful person. The journalist who spewed forth this unconscionable poison should immediately retract his untruthful reporting and publish an apology to Stockhausen.

I live in the USA and we are doing our best with God's help to get through this cowardly and hateful attack on our nation by terrorists.

I also serve as Chairman of the Board of Directors of a Fire Protection District. I personally am acquainted with heroic fire fighters from our area who are tirelessly laboring at Ground Zero in NYC. As a loyal and patriotic American, I can tell you that Karlheinz Stockhausen is not the kind of man to condone terrorism in ANY form.

On September 13 Kathinka Pasveer sent me a thoughtful fax from Karlheinz, Suzee Stephens (who is American) and herself that said "We all follow the tragedy in the USA and pray for you all. So terrible."

The reporter who wrote this rubbish for the sake of his own financial and professional gain should be condemned by the public for his sensational lies and promptly fired by his employer.

James Stonebraker, Webmaster
St. Louis, Missouri USA
September 19, 2001

dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Sunday, 7 August 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Good god.

The Spiderwebbed Wilderness (Bimble...), Sunday, 7 August 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

Anti-Pope Consortium OTM.

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 7 August 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

the sept 11 hijackers did not 'rehearse like crazy for ten years'

jake b. (cerybut), Sunday, 7 August 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)

[Praying they opt against an encore]

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 8 August 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)

He is performing in Billingsgate fish market soon, I think I read somewhere. I'm walking around trying to look as if I'm going, even though I'm not.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 8 August 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

the fishmonger is an artist and Billingsgate is his greatest work

Masked Gazza, Monday, 8 August 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

He is performing in Billingsgate fish market soon, I think I read somewhere. I'm walking around trying to look as if I'm going, even though I'm not.

Is he?!?!?!!

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Monday, 8 August 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

Apparently so!

Huey (Huey), Monday, 8 August 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Yes, Dadaismus, the speakers are going to move up and down.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

And I intend to move up and down to, doin' the Serialist Pogo

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

KRS One to thread.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

In case he doesn't show up, what do you think he would say?

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

>the speakers are going to move up and down.

oktophonie is spatially mixed for eight speakers, with the sounds moving around in the room from speaker to speaker. I don't think the speakers themselves will be moving.

it's a nicely drony piece, the digital textures take a bit of getting used to for the first 15-20 minutes but once it locks in on the One Note it's good listening, and should sound great loud at the fish market. wish I could be there.

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)


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