Lifetime: Hello Bastards C/D?

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Since these jokers are getting back together for hellfest (ugh) and I won't get to go and they helped influence numerous bands I will hate and be bored by forever, it is time their most imortant and least sucking album be judged.

THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST records lyrically and melodically of punk and harcore in the nineties. While that is not saying much given the total refuse produced during that era, I unequivically consider this record a total classic.

Pony boy, Monday, 8 August 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST records lyrically and melodically of punk and harcore in the nineties. While that is not saying much given the total refuse produced during that era

No way, when this came out in 1995 hardcore was still pretty decent with people like Fugazi, Swing Kids, Hoover, Rye Coalition, Worst Case Scenario and Texas Is The Reason. A year or so later and i'd agree with you, though.

Lifetime were alright in that chunky melodic hardcore in a Dag Nasty with Dave Smalley stylee. I wouldn't go so far as to call it classic but "hello bastards" was easily their best album.

Ellis, Monday, 8 August 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

Farside and Texas Is The Reason were the best out of all those sorta bands.

Ellis, Monday, 8 August 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

CLASSIC!

Lifetime were essentially my favourite band throughout my adolescence and "Knives, Bats, New Tats" is just below "Build Me Up Buttercup" on the list of my favourite songs ever. I'm still deciding whether to be happy that they're reforming, period, or bummed that they're doing it at Hellfest to a bunch of kids whose HC ground zero is Eighteen Visions.

PS: While Hello Bastards is obviously the better record, I won't hear any hating on Jersey's Best Dancers... Search: Theme Song for a New Brunswick Basement Show, How We Are & Turnpike Gates.

(side-question: T/S - Jawbreaker or Lifetime?)

ian p is playing at my house (ian p is playing at my house), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Definately Jawbreaker.

Ellis, Monday, 8 August 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

I did not enjoy Texas is the Reason, seeing them live was 35 minutes of my life I wish I could get back. The amount of gel and self-importance on the stage was mind-blowing considering their mediocrity. I found them nasally, predictable and generic. Also, they wasted a great band name on a less than great band (see also split lip and L7). Rye Coaltition were a bit too thwanky and theatrical live, and their lyrics were over-precious and clever, and none of this was carried off in the way say, Nation of Ulysses managed with the same handicaps. Farside's first 7" was pretty okay, and I liked some stuff off rochabeau and rigged, but for me always lacked the underlying visceral quality that say, The Descendents, The Replacements (w/ Bob) or Fugazi capture perfectly: a freedom and fucked-upedness and punk energy feeding through even their most introspective and effete works. Lifetime had that, regardless of all their flaws. Live they were anywhere from totally boring, to baffling, to pretty all right. The first 7" and Background are abysmal. But Hello Bastards has a lyrical sincerity filled with images and comedy and punches and bummers- without patting itself on the back for being so adorable, guitar hooks like Buddy Holly or early Police and blood and guts frenetic drums on non-stop chase. It is immediate, it is close to the surface and it has the impulsive quality of something true.

Pony boy, Monday, 8 August 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

Lifetime over Jawbreaker. For the same reason I like Lester Bangs' writing more than Robert Christgau's. Not because it is better per se, simply because it is not insufferably smug.

Pony Boy, Monday, 8 August 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

I heard tell that Lifetime was not going to get back together despite the silly amount of money being offered by Hellfest promoters($20,000). Mike Judge also turned downed some astronomical fee to front a Judge reunion. Now Lifetime is doing it "in order to raise money for the CBGB defense fund and another yet-to-be-named charity."
(aversion.com)

The Mark Ra, Monday, 8 August 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Can't get into Lifetime, never could. They were just too wussy and poppy - I'd go for Kid Dynamite's first record over anything Lifetime have ever done. Kid Dynamite knew how to balance toughness with melody.

pppp

pppp, Monday, 8 August 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

seven months pass...
signed! to decaydance, a subsidiary of fueled by ramen:

http://www.punknews.org/article.php?sid=16527&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

mts (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:17 (twenty years ago)

no else is disturbed/excited/etc by this?

mts (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Woah-- none of these bands are hardcore bands as I remember them. They were the beginning of emo. At the same time that TITR and Lifetime were whining away, Los Crudos and MK Ultra and the Rickets and shitloads of other bands were playing real hardcore.

Man, it's so fucking weird to argue the same way I did when I was thirteen. I don't even listen to hardcore any longer.

(PS-- Rye Coalition are awesome, though)

trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:09 (twenty years ago)

rye were sad the last time i saw them, like 2 years ago.

mts (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:11 (twenty years ago)

LOVED MK Ultra.

youth problem (YouthProblem), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:23 (twenty years ago)

oh and Rye Coalition WERE awesome.

youth problem (YouthProblem), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:23 (twenty years ago)

isn't decaydance the vanity label of the fall out boy dude?

strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:28 (twenty years ago)

p.s. i can't see this going anywhere good.

strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:28 (twenty years ago)

yes, thats his label.

mts (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:19 (twenty years ago)

hey youth, if i still listen to 'em, they're still present. charles bronson are fucking awesome, too, and better than all these other bands combined.

trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 30 March 2006 06:24 (twenty years ago)


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