Organ used in Tommy James and the Shondells

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Anyone know what kind of organ Ronnie Rosman used in Tommy James and the Shondells? It's really one of the characteristic sounds of that group. I'm talking about the one you hear in "I Think We're Alone Now" and "Mirage." Doesn't sound like the typical U.S. rock band organs of the day - a Farfisa or Vox. Maybe sounds a little like the keyboard on Del Shannon records? Has a sort of bizarro sound that could be interpreted as cheesey, but I think adds to the surreal quality of those records. Also really cuts through nicely.

Tim Ellison (HI DERE IT'S ME NOT STARTREKMAN) (Tim Ellison), Friday, 12 August 2005 05:01 (twenty years ago)

cordovox?

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 12 August 2005 05:09 (twenty years ago)

could also be a hammond which has a very distinctive and rich sound usually but wouldn't call it cheesy and don't remember how the song sounds. hammond b3 is what jim morrison used and others (i can't htink of)

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 12 August 2005 05:17 (twenty years ago)

No, it definitely doesn't sound like a Hammond B-3. It's this whistling-whirring tone that, like Tim observes, I don't really hear in other records of the period. ("1, 2, 3 and I Fell" has this almost as much as "Mirage," IIRC.)

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 12 August 2005 05:21 (twenty years ago)

ten years pass...

Clavioline.

timellison, Monday, 21 March 2016 03:28 (ten years ago)

back sleeve of "I Think We're Alone Now" LP lists "Ronnie Rosman on piano, organ and cordovox"

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 March 2016 14:29 (ten years ago)

hoping they mean this

http://www.combo-organ.com/Cordovox/CDX-0622a.jpg

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 March 2016 14:30 (ten years ago)

Are those from the '70s, though?

In any case, Tommy's Facebook post from the 19th says Clavioline:

https://www.facebook.com/TJandtheShondells/?fref=ts

timellison, Monday, 21 March 2016 17:31 (ten years ago)

Maybe the Cordovox credit on the album referred to one of their accordions? That seems to be a lot of what comes up when you search for Cordovox.

timellison, Monday, 21 March 2016 17:53 (ten years ago)

A clavioline is not an organ though.

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Monday, 21 March 2016 18:25 (ten years ago)

... ignore that, irrelevant!

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Monday, 21 March 2016 18:28 (ten years ago)

Yeah, I was just thinking that wouldn't mean that the person responsible for the album credits wouldn't have identified it as one.

timellison, Monday, 21 March 2016 18:30 (ten years ago)

Maybe the Cordovox credit on the album referred to one of their accordions? That seems to be a lot of what comes up when you search for Cordovox.

― timellison, Monday, March 21, 2016 1:53 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i'll have a listen to the album again and see if there's anything that sounds like accordion.

i thought that photo did look 70s. just noticed the date the in lower left corner. doh!

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 March 2016 18:31 (ten years ago)

albums rules btw. "Trust Each Other in Love" and "Baby Let Me Down"

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 March 2016 18:40 (ten years ago)

ok i listened to the whole album and nothing on it sounds like an accordion. they also made amps.

this is a site on Cordovox organs but the earliest they have is 1974:
http://www.combo-organ.com/Cordovox/

killer version of "Shout" on this LP! guitar rhythm feels very VU at times.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 March 2016 19:06 (ten years ago)

Looks like cordovox made an accordion that was essentially an electric organ with the tone generators being contained in a separate box that looked like an amp. You can hear some of the sounds here
https://youtu.be/b9ik7J_W_qg?t=2m16s

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/cordovox-tone-generator-ever-heard-of-em.1278429/

The electric organ part seems to be totally independent of the accordion bellows, so he possibly could have had one chopped down and used it horizontally like a little compact organ.

wk, Monday, 21 March 2016 19:28 (ten years ago)

"Ronnie Rossman played a Hammond B-3 organ and a second keyboard called a Chordovox, which was actually an electrified accordion on a stand that had an almost toylike quality to it."

https://books.google.com/books?id=I6pfS5VOa4kC&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&dq=ronnie+rosman+accordion&source=bl&ots=iXWjLhlGYO&sig=63NbPZLZCV-av6Y9xhtKNgLh3y0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwicht-WwtLLAhUQ2GMKHbaGCLIQ6AEIPzAH#v=onepage&q=ronnie%20rosman%20accordion&f=false

wk, Monday, 21 March 2016 19:32 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

This article says it was studio pro Artie Butler on an Ondioline: https://www.mixonline.com/recording/classic-tracks-tommy-james-shondells-i-think-were-alone-now-365955

Article docked a star for referring to Joe Mack/Joe Macho as *Joe Macko*

Whiney On The Moog (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 March 2018 02:00 (eight years ago)

Two years before, the group had recorded their first single, “Hanky Panky,” which was recorded at a radio studio by a local DJ, Jack Douglas, and issued by a small local label. “The record just came and went,” he says. “I graduated from high school in '65, and I took my band on the road. We played Rush Street in Chicago and up through the Midwest, and we came home very out of work and depressed.”

But then James received that telephone call. “Hanky Panky” had sprouted new legs in Pittsburgh, thanks to numerous bootleg pressings from the original single. “They sold 80,000 pieces in 10 days, and it was the Number One record in Pittsburgh,” he recalls. James had a hit on his hands. “If I had missed that call, there wouldn't have been a Tommy James.”

i love this fact. without bootlegging, no "Hanky Panky", no "I Think We're Alone Now", no "Crimson & Clover", no "Mony Mony", etc. without a doubt the 60s and the 80s would've been less far fun

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 5 March 2018 12:12 (eight years ago)

thanks for posting btw really enjoying the details of actually arranging/recording a pop song

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 5 March 2018 12:16 (eight years ago)

wonder if that's the same Jack Douglas that produced Aerosmith

calstars, Monday, 5 March 2018 13:03 (eight years ago)


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