MOMUS!!!

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Just found this on another thread...

"nick please fade away
you were amazing once a long time ago
until you pull out something shattering
Remember the good old days? You had such a way with words
BEAUTIFUL MUSIC Accessible
Head towards honesty you blessed fool
Drop your grasp for the avant garde gold ring
Keep it simple and beautiful (Damn quit follwing Black Dice and AC follow Banhart if you have to follow someone. which you don't I have to add!)
My goodness Momus MAKE POP! (not what you imagine the future of pop)
Stop imagining and start intuiting!!!
(You were so god damn amazing once)"

So true. i used to imagine Currie on the verge of something wonderful. He it the nail on the head so many times (faltering at Philosohpy). It is true when he attempted a record so dangerous as a phliosophy (philosophy of momus - the staggering/stunned/arrogant brilliant album) He over-intellexualized everything. Damnit Momus you coulda been a contender.
(I still (have hope)!)
P.S. It's going to take death and ressurection. Escape from that Black Iron Prison - your audience can never replace your parents, says Freud from the collective unconscious...

Don't take me literally but don't take me figuratively either.

marybeth, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

Marissa wuz here

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)

the idea that momus would take cues from anyone on here is silly. he's much more of a success, defined however you wish, and probably happier than most exactly because he follows his own imagination and it carries him to wonderful places. it might not be my thing but because you haven't been keen to follow doesn't mean he isn't still finding success. it's always funny how people jump in at the end of a discussion to "drop" the hammer but they always come off a bit foolish.

keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 01:16 (twenty years ago)

That's true, Keith. People are always keen to drop the hammer, and those that they can't touch, they dis.

moley (moley), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)

Is this the thread where I say I love "Trance Cocktail Airlines"? Because I do.

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)

Marissa uses more commas, tho

kingfish completely hatstand (Kingfish), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 01:50 (twenty years ago)

marissa's posts are far superior, no debate

marissa fan, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)

Emotional communist

Whatever I am politically, emotionally I'm a communist. I respond deeply to communist imagery and communist sentiment. Perhaps it's genetic: we have staunch non-conformist radical Hebridean teachers on one side of my family and austere Calvinists on the other. But it permeates most of my ideas of the good and the beautiful. My mother has kept a little pamphlet I wrote aged 6. It's called "The Dive Of Wealth", and rages against the immorality of the rich. We take it out and laugh at it sometimes: part of the joke is that I really haven't changed.

Picture me, back in 1980, as your typical radicalised student, dressed in my quasi-uniform (grey shirt, black tie, Doc Martens, a padded Chinese army coat my mother brought back from her 1979 trip to the People's Republic), working as a volunteer in left wing bookshops, a volume of Brecht's poetry sticking out of my pocket. Imagine me in an austere standard-issue room in a hall of residence on a hill to the north of a dour, working-class city (Aberdeen), bathing in public baths at the Student Union (shades of my later delight in sentos there), singing along with the Brecht, Weill, Eisler and Dessau songs on my Robyn Archer records. My education is paid for by the still-somewhat-socialist British state, as is my medical care. I abhor Thatcher, and write letters to Radio Moscow suggesting ways they might improve their propaganda broadcasts to the West. On the walls of my room I've affixed pictures of Chinese workers' farms. Under the standard-issue orange duvet-cover I lose my virginity to a radical Politics student (she now lectures in African Development Studies). My best friend is a Greek communist studying Sociology (he now works as a transport advisor in Greece, engineering the downfall of the private car). In 1980 he's reading Stalin's biography. He admires Stalin's ruthlessness and tells me that, come the revolution, if it becomes necessary he won't hesitate to have me shot. He's decided not to make love to his French girlfriend because he believes, with some of the more radical feminists, that all acts of penetration are a form of imperialism. Later, when we all move to London, his girlfriend gets sick of the non-intervention and becomes mine instead.

Today, the perception that I'm some sort of jet-setting yuppie is a laughable misapprehension. I'm very poor. And that's okay; I seem to have designed a "low-calorie lifestyle" for myself. I may call it "superflatness" these days, but I'm still very much a communist at heart. I own, basically, nothing. I've never had -- or wanted -- my own private car or house. I hate glitzy capitalist imagery of the kind I discussed the other day (the Louis Vuitton poster of Uma Thurman in Seoul). Berlin, the city I live in, is the most "emotionally communist" city I know, and that's one of the reasons I enjoy being here. Communist sentiment abounds: I see it daily in the ex-Soviet sector of the city. Today, walking on the Kastanienallee, I saw a stars and stripes hung upside down from the window of a squat, with "Against America" printed on it; yesterday, near my house, posters of George W Bush with "Wanted For Murder" written on them. Such is the intellectual climate of the city I live in. Like me, it's emotionally communist. When I went to Moscow last year I couldn't bear the capitalist "triumph" apparent. Sure, there were statues of Mayakovsky on the streets and busts of Marx in the subway (a palace for the workers of yesteryear). But everywhere I saw casinos and dollar signs, advertising hoardings and car salesrooms. It was a relief to get back to the German capital, a city which lovingly restores its communist murals rather than tearing them down.

Berlin's emotional tenderness for its communist past matches mine. On Saturday I bought a record of readings and songs celebrating Lenin on my favourite defunct East German label, Litera. On Sunday I was at the Boxhagener Platz market sifting through glamourous tech-junk from the socialist era (I ended up buying a Korean microwave for 8 euros, which I suppose wasn't terribly communist, although it was cheap). On Monday I took a tram with Hisae out to the Allee der Kosmonauten and we shopped at the Meeraner Strasse Asiahandlung, one of Berlin's best-kept secrets, a North Vietnamese wholesale village. I bought the Vietnamese schoolbooks illustrated on this page. The most beautiful things I saw there were cheap and simple: the pink plastic crates used for spices in the Vietnamese grocery, an orange plastic bead curtain, some aubergines in a box, a sack of rice, fluorescent lights, a blue and white plastic tablecloth.

The number 8 tram out from Karl-Marx-Allee (where I rent an apartment) to the Allee der Kosmonauten traverses a monumental landscape still massively marked by its recent socialist past. There are Russian supermarkets with cyrillic writing on them, the famously brutalist plattenbauten of Marzahn (huge residential towerblocks of socialist design), monumental hospitals and factories. Even the tramline itself is socialist; trams don't run in the Western parts of Berlin. On a sunny day, the vast spaces and industrial ugliness of the Allee der Kosmonauten have something deeply stirring and romantic about them, at least to someone like me. It's great to be amongst the Vietnamese, invited to East Germany during the communist period to escape the imperialist war that failed to prevent their nation becoming The People's Republic of Vietnam. In a bookstore I buy the textbooks pictured, overwhelmed by the beauty of their covers and charmed by the propagandist optimism of the pictures inside, which show cheerful communist children walking through fields rich with harvest, or clustered with glowing faces around their sage, Ho Chi Minh. A little Vietnamese girl explains to me in German, as her mother wraps the books, that I must use the printed books for the lessons, and the jotter for handwriting exercises.

Perhaps I'll use the jotter for Friendly Album lyrics. Even the concept of The Friendly Album is communistic. Friendliness, for me, is close to comradeship; a profoundly horizontal civic virtue. I want the songs to celebrate collectivism and social connectedness. I want to make songs like Brecht's poem To Be Friendly. The record will be propaganda for "emotional communism". I am already preparing for it, marching around the house (Hisae will tell you) singing along with Hans Eisler's rousing Solidarity Song:

Onwards, without forgetting where our strength can be now seen to be!
Onwards, without forgetting our SO-LI-DA-RI-TY!

(Here's a video of Robyn Archer singing the Brecht-Eisler composion In The Flower Garden. The film of the 1953 workers' uprising was shot on the street where I now live, then known as the Stalinallee.)

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

Newer Momus sounds nothing like Black Dice or Animal Collective. He still, for the most part, makes pop music.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 03:11 (twenty years ago)

stop starting threads about momus you maniacs

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 03:31 (twenty years ago)

I enjoy reading his blogs, but I never got into his music at all. All I've heard was Tender Pervert, which I wasn't exactly enamored with.

Jamey Lewis (Jameys Burning), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 03:33 (twenty years ago)

My goodness Momus MAKE POP! (not what you imagine the future of pop)
Stop imagining and start intuiting!!!
(You were so god damn amazing once)"

You don't know me very well if you think you can influence me by suggesting I "stop imagining"!

I'm pleased that you're still listening to my 1995 album ten years on. Perhaps in 2015 you'll be telling me that "Otto Spooky" was great after all...

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 03:52 (twenty years ago)

That essay makes me think momus is living exactly the life I want to be living in a decade--whether I can pull it off remains to be seen.

richardk (Richard K), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 06:23 (twenty years ago)

i sometimes suspect that "momus" is actually an elaborate hoax, like the howard hughes diaries or something

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 06:29 (twenty years ago)

Yeah there is that possibility, too. But then who is making TEH POP SONGS??

richardk (Richard K), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 06:36 (twenty years ago)

MOMUS, PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT EARLY BLACK DICE

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 06:52 (twenty years ago)

JARDE OTM

Clay (cws), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

Here's Strange Emission, a little radio programme I've just made today in which I play some music I like. It even contains some late (not early) Black Dice, just for Jared! (Stereo mp3 file, 128kBs rich, 30MB heavy, and 33 mins. 44 secs. long.) (Right now it's still being uploaded, check back later if it's not there yet.)

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

I'm laughing. Seriously I haven't laughed this much in days.
And, Momus, hate to be harsh. But, I really don't think anyone will be listening to you in 2015. I mean, cmon. who's listening to you now?!? Still laughing.

June, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

Can we please kill this thread?

suburbanfool, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

From the evidence of recent photos on his livejournal, Momus sports a combover these days. It's hard to be cutting edge and relevant, and at the same time imagine you're fooling anyone with a combover.

Artemis Plugg, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, Anonymous Detractors.

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

the radio thing's quite cool! however, i left momus in a bleeding heap after our recent googlefight... sorry nick!

http://googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=ken+taylor&word2=momus

ken taylrr has gone off the internet because of you (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)


wow, momus has a lot of hostile anonymous stalkers. how long can this game go on, boys?

whiteout (bobnope), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Seriously, though, MOMUS:

How does one reconcile these three facts:


-I'm very poor.

-I own, basically, nothing.

-I want to make songs like Brecht's poem To Be Friendly.

-Living alternately in London, Berlin, Tokyo, New York, etc...some of the most expensive cities on the planet.

I feel the same way about communism emotionally, but especially when it comes to entertainment, the realities of life contradict such values so absolutely. You don't need anything but an instrument to write songs, granted, but to RECORD them is entirely different. Especially if it's not just you and an acoustic guitar--how do you afford all the PRO TOOLS and effects and gadgetry etc. etc?

Sorry if I'm not the first one to ask this.

richardk (Richard K), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

I think Momus is secretly an alter ego of Marissa Marchant

Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

-Living alternately in London, Berlin, Tokyo, New York, etc...some of the most expensive cities on the planet... Especially if it's not just you and an acoustic guitar--how do you afford all the PRO TOOLS and effects and gadgetry etc. etc?

i am not marissa marchant.. i do not have a 50,000 dollar studio..
the life of a working musician is not a bed of roses
you people should learn to appreciate talent even when it is not on a major label
i am not surprised that i love music is full of stalkers who hate me..
they have been sent by malevolent goggle search tools..
its like salem around here and i am tied to the ducking stool
because i have a one million dollar talent as an artist
in fact, richardk, i live in berlin,. it is cheaper than any other european city..
i visit cities like new york and tokyo when i get the chance
i finance that with concerts...
i have never used protools, in fact my studio is broken just now....
i cannot even afford a new power cable for my hard disk recorder
and my ibook has fried too... this is the truth
if you are not nice about my music and my profound knowledge of the early history of black dice
i am changing my name to a name you will never know
and going to live in a hearse by a lake in another part of the internet..
i mean a house..
i don't know where just now..
but far...

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

OK, I am usually a Momus hater but that last post was funny!

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

Well, let me say that 'Oskar Tennis Champion' is one of my favorite albums of the past few years. Whenever I turn people onto it, they usually agree that it's a special album. I like 'Otto Spooky' a lot too, but it's a more challenging listen.

In fact, I owned 'Ping Pong' and enjoyed it, but 'Oskar' made me a fan.

And every marybeth post I notice is very irritating. She needs to find a better use for all that enthusiasm.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

well, i'm an unabashed momus lover, but as much as i love nick's music and his earnestly written prose, his mimicking of ill-fated artists on this board is a new high! i try and i try to nail marissa's posting style, but still fail miserably. nick, you're a wonder!

ken taylrr has gone off the internet because of you (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

OTM I'm Hi, Jared Fogle!

marissa fan finds another thread, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

yes great answer momissa marchantus! Just leave b3l4 out of it this time, plz thanks!

richardk (Richard K), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

Momus, I'm sorry I made fun of things you wrote on the internet before. You just made up for it all with that Marissa impression. I take it all back.

Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 04:31 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
bloody hell. i registered here cos i thought i'd be in for some reasonable discussion about music.

are you all about 12 or something?
sheesh.

oh and for what it's worth, momus is a genius. a flawed genius. the best kind.

kb (cake), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)


It's just a running joke on ILM. It's probably the same five people who are obsessed with him.

simian (dymaxia), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

six years pass...

i enjoyed this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01d955t

"Stuart Maconie is joined by musician Nick Currie (aka Momus) who shares his love of John Cage's music."

koogs, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 09:40 (fourteen years ago)


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