Recording w/Click Track - C or D?

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Well, what say you?

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

a tremendous dud but sometimes unavoidable

jimmy glass (electricsound), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

Just fine. Though if done poorly it can be stifling - like the last few R.E.M. records, though I'm sure they used a click before that.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

if it sounds better, do it.

Jamey Lewis (Jameys Burning), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

How else will DJs beatmatch yer shit?

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 05:01 (twenty years ago)

I used to think tremendous D, but after recording an entire album with one, I have to say C all the way. Raises the confidence level 100 percent.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 05:01 (twenty years ago)

My live setup has the potential for me to generate a click track for myself and other people. Plus it generates a visual click track. I find this really helpful because I use so much quantized delay.

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 06:08 (twenty years ago)

this isn't standard practice?

now I'm embarrassed (Richard K), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 06:15 (twenty years ago)

Barring a drummer, I mean.

richardk (Richard K), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 06:16 (twenty years ago)

When you find it's somehow leaked or bled onto one of the other tracks, so that what ever you do it remains faintly audible in the final mix and you can't actually get rid of it without wiping everything and starting again?

DUD

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

When you find it's somehow leaked or bled onto one of the other tracks, so that what ever you do it remains faintly audible in the final mix and you can't actually get rid of it without wiping everything and starting again?

Play louder.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

i'm opposed to them but i'm not sure why. seems like they'd keep the drummer from getting creative on the spur of the moment or playing just off the beat. but i'm not a drummer, so i don't know.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

seems like they'd keep the drummer from getting creative on the spur of the moment or playing just off the beat

No, not really. A good drummer can play around the click just as you would play around another musician. When you stop feeling like getting creative, you have a reference point to get back to.

That said, I prefer not to use a click when recording drums. Lately, I've been putting down rhythm guitar to a click, then overdubbing live drums on top of that. This way, the drums are the loosest thing; it's a nice change.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

When layering tracks, classic. For live band playing, dud.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

I tried it for the first time recently. I suppose a good thing about it is it motivated me to improve my time.

The bad thing was that some of our songs have multiple parts, and we tend to naturally speed up or slow down for some of those parts, and it feels right to do so.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

Sometimes it is unavoidable. It is possible to program a tempo map for a click-track, though I doubt many people bother, somehow.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

you have no chance to survive make your time

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N_RQ, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

"Play louder."

Brian Krashpad's told me all about you!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

If you've got a good drummer - D. A crappy one, absolutley C.

ryansf (ryansf), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

I don't know about that. Good drummers can sound good AND have perfect tempo when playing to a click, less-than-good ones can be thrown off their game and chase the click around, sounding even worse in the end.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Tempo's a weird thing. Maybe my ears have just been conditioned to metronomic time, but I'm thinking more and more that the pushing and pulling that can feel good while you're playing as a band doesn't sound good on tape. Then again, sometimes it does.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

I recorded a not so decent drummer that couldn't play to the click and we ended up tracking him without it. The result was terrible.

ryansf (ryansf), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

When you find it's somehow leaked or bled onto one of the other tracks, so that what ever you do it remains faintly audible in the final mix and you can't actually get rid of it without wiping everything and starting again?

use something 'classic' like a drumstick hitting a tambourine then when it bleeds it won't sound shit in your mix. sampled fingerclicks are pretty good for it too.


john clarkson, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

All depends on the drummer. It's vastly preferable to play with a drummer who can play behind/ahead/on the click track. Obviously, those drummers can likely play without a click track.

I"ve recorded two records with click tracks and one without. The one without ended up having the most natural groove/soul/feel. It really depends on what you're trying to achieve.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

we employ a good bit of quanitzed delay and some synth arpeggiation, so it's pretty necessary. and we're not really going for a live band kind of sound. so it's C in this case. plus when all the hott remixers wanna remix our shit it'll be easier for them to add some fat techno kicks under my live drums!!

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

Searching for a click track usage with a software detector

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:48 (seventeen years ago)


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