Let us now praise Living Color's "Cult of Personality"

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Rocking yet literate, amped-up late-80s guitar and drum production sounds, godzilla riff, urgency, and a guitar solo that doesn't wait for the drum fill to lift off.

57 7th (calstars), Friday, 19 August 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

http://www.pierce.ctc.edu/bbenedet/fall04/Documents/tumbleweed/tumbleweed.jpg

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

That's some heavy Pink Floyd shit man.

I haven't heard it in years upon years but it easily comes to mind upon mentioning, and is still hands down a great song all in all. I think there's something about the production that sounds off after everything that's happened in rock (and hip-hop etc.) production since -- more so than early eighties sounds, it's that late eighties corp-rock production that suffers these days.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Considering it came out in the late-Eighties, though, it has a better sound than most everything that hit the Top 40 around that time. It doesn't seem overly naff or ultra-heavy on the reverb to me.

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

I like the Coltrane-style squalling guitar solo. And the main riff is killer.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Why did Corey Glover always sing like he was trying to imitate Stevie Ray Vaughan or John Popper or some other white-bluesman with a Sergio Leone-derived fashion sense?

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

Because you weren't there to offer him your vocal coaching techniques. O WHAT A TRAGEDY

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

oh that wet suit!

bb (bbrz), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

I detest the singing: it's as hamhanded as the lyrics. I prefer "Glamour Boys."

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

I remember liking them, and then they opened for the Stones, when that still sort of meant something, and then my dad and his friends liked them, so I was like, "well, enough of that."

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

"cult" isn't "fierce" enough for you then?

bb (bbrz), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

I would like to poo on the "literate" claim, but that's mostly because everything Vernon Reid's done has that "THIS IS IMPORTANT" stank to it that turns me off. (And I was a HUGE LC boosta once upon a time. HUGE. Like Joseph Stalin AND Ghandi.)

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

On the other hand, if we were praising "Type" or "Memories Can't Wait"...

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

hate Corey Glover, love everything else about this song. this was like thrash Zeppelin

and there's stuff on Time's Up which is great too (esp the title track)

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

If Reid wrote lyrics about The Lion, The Witch, & The Wardrobe, I'd be over the moon.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

dude you're over the moon anyway

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

They got better as they went along. Pride is a much better album (I go along with the "Type" love).

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

i loved them in middle school...but "Into love, and out again,
Thus I went, and thus I go."

the live "memories" on Biscut...that there was great...and maybe still is

bb (bbrz), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Their first two albums are completely unimpeachable. I saw them on the "Time's Up" tour and they completely rocked balls.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

(xxpost)

I meant "Time's Up," not Pride.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

I also have a special place reserved in my heart for them because my brother introduced me to Vivid almost a full year before it blew up, cementing my position as The Guy Who Knows Everything About Music in my junior high.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

Also, WTF, "Glamour Boys" pisses all over "Cult" fifteen ways to Cape Fear, if only because it's, like, not as self-important.

"Memories" is a Talking Heads cover, isn't it? I'm a diznork.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

"Under Cover of Darkness" also roolz.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

I will rep for Stain as well.

I will not rep for their most recent album.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

when this song blew up
I worked in the projects with
intractable youth

one of them, Kareem,
was the only black kid who
was down with metal

he was a drummer,
we drove all around Boston,
Vivid on, and talked

later, when he learned
that his mom had AIDS, we just
cranked it up and drove

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

i couldn't get into Stain..i was excited for the addition of Wimbish (sp?), but well...at that age tastes went in and out with the post...

bb (bbrz), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

dan is OTM re: Living Color live....saw them on the first Lollapaloooza and they really fucking rocked.

the records seem a little dated now, but overall i think they were cool....love the cover of memories can't wait by talking heads....times up was actually better than the first i think...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

>I detest the singing: it's as hamhanded as the lyrics<

OTM

As for the claim "Rocking yet literate," I have no words.

xhuxk, Friday, 19 August 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

I much prefer "Middle Man", actually.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

I mean, really, when Glover starts declaiming, 'I...AM...CULT....OF....PERSONALITY!!!!" some of us think it's Nuremberg '36

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

neither did they, xhuxk

bb (bbrz), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

jaja Alf THAT IS THE EFFEKT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

I never liked Living Colour until I saw them at the first Lollapalooza, where to my surprise they walked away with the show, esp. with this song. I had no idea they covered "Memories Can't Wait" -- actually, that sounds really wrong, but I'll trust you if you say it's good.

Guayaquil, Friday, 19 August 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Rocking yet literate...

And so "articulate" as well.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I think Corey Glover and Mike Patton shared a wardrobe 89-92.

This song is one of the high points of commercial rock radio of the past 20 years, despite Corey's rectum-all-asqueezin' delivery, thanks in part to one of the possibly five most intimidating guitar solos in recorded history.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

This song sounded really good while I was trying to finish the race at Los Santos Arena in GTA:SA

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

http://www.musicgearreview.com/dbpix/whammy.jpg

57 7th (calstars), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

It's all about that bass drum fill, the quarter note triplet.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and the weird double time "bonus" riff is awesome!

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

you beat me to the punch on the double time drumming at the end, which is always a great effect.

this song reminds me of trying to learn that main riff on my cheapo strat knockoff back in the summer of 1990. I never could manage it. I believe the two things I wanted to learn were that and "Cliffs of Dover" by wanker Eric Johnson.

don weiner (don weiner), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

i love love love vernon reid's solo on cult...nick otm....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

This song sounded really good while I was trying to finish the race at Los Santos Arena in GTA:SA

yeah, i was gunna say. Or running over people in a tank in Las Venturas.

kingfish fucked up his login (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

actually, frank kogan pointed out once that this song had exactly the same words as "what i am" by edie brikel and the bohemians. and i think he might be right!

like lots of hit 1990 art-metal (by jane's addiction, faith no more, king's x, queensrhyche), it didn't rock anywhere near as hard as lots of the hair metal that, um, nirvana got credit for "replacing" a year later. still, right: some cool guitar parts by slumming jazzbo vernon reid. but no more "literate" than "save the weak" by britney fox, as far as i'm concerned. and that band had a better rhythm section too.

xhuxk, Friday, 19 August 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

Tha's weird. I always thought the song was called "Cultrural Personality"

You learn something everyday I guess.

Voodoo Child, Friday, 19 August 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

A lazy critic would compare the opening part of "open letter (to a landlord)" to "staring at the sun". But I guess I just did that.

Andrew Arana (aarana), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

First album: pretty good. Second album: uglier, better. Biscuits EP (which contains the live version of "Memories Can't Wait" and a really fucked up take on James Brown's "Talkin' Loud & Sayin' Nothin'" and a not-so-great version of Hendrix's "Burning Of The Midnight Lamp") also very good. After that, nothin'. I saw 'em on Lollapalooza too; like the aforementioned records better.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 19 August 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

jane's addiction, faith no more, king's x, queensrhyche + Living Color...

Every single one of these bands' singers shared one closet full of spandex bodysuits.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 19 August 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

I don't think either singer from King's X ever wore a bodysuit, but I could be wrong.

57 7th (calstars), Friday, 19 August 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

haha, oh right, doh

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 19 August 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

I think Corey Glover and Mike Patton shared a wardrobe 89-92.

Haha! Same shaved-sides long-on-top hairstyle for awhile as well!

In their heyday, the live shows were stunning. Seek everything up through Stain. And the Live At CBGB's 12/19/89 release.

Edward Bax (EdBax), Friday, 19 August 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

Played relentlessly on big FM radio in the Lehigh Valley. Opened for sold out Stones stadium show in Philly. Didn't do a thing for them in terms of sales up the northeast extension. Local record store owners would remark that the LV classic rock audience just wouldn't buy them. As a consequence, everyone knew the band and the "hit" but they couldn't have done even a mid-level gig as a head-liner.

My wife liked them. And it used to be amusing to see lame cover bands with all white metal hacks run through "Cult of Personality."

George the Animal Steele, Friday, 19 August 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

Really one of the only straightforward rock songs I can remember liking much at the time.

Rockist_Scientist (hair by Joelle) (RSLaRue), Friday, 19 August 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

Their first two albums are completely unimpeachable. I saw them on the "Time's Up" tour and they completely rocked balls.

-- The Ghost of Black Elegance (djperr...), August 19th, 2005.

I saw them on that tour too - it was my first real rock concert. I still remember chubby eleven-year-old me chanting "Elvis is Dead!" along with the crowd as my father and my best friend's mom plugged their ears.

Biscuits was great too - I love their cover of Talkin' Loud and Sayin' Nothin'.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 19 August 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

I always like that Neeeon LIghts... part.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 19 August 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

I thought it was "Neon LIES". Man, don't you get it, man???

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 19 August 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

ten years pass...

http://youtu.be/EeCQq3ot_Qo

Reid's shredding here is off the hook

calstars, Sunday, 15 May 2016 02:00 (ten years ago)

Those dudes could really play. Reid is someone that took the 80s shredder guitar style of pure speed and tremolo bar abuse and applied it in a fairly musical way.

earlnash, Sunday, 15 May 2016 02:15 (ten years ago)

Cool clip!

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Sunday, 15 May 2016 04:10 (ten years ago)

three years pass...

Christ, that four bars or so preceding the solo, thrusting into outer space

calstars, Saturday, 20 July 2019 18:41 (six years ago)

And then the solo is like that guy skydiving from the edge of orbit.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 July 2019 18:57 (six years ago)

lol at that insane clip above. You can def. sense their harmolodic jazzbo training when it's bursting at the seams, threatening to fall apart, but they somehow manage to keep it together. Muzz, the most talented, most missed dude who ever just walked away.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 July 2019 19:02 (six years ago)

Chuck really Chuckin' hard upthread.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 20 July 2019 19:06 (six years ago)

Britney Fox had a better rhythm section lol

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee) at 9:27 19 Aug 05

Why did Corey Glover always sing like he was trying to imitate Stevie Ray Vaughan or John Popper or some other white-bluesman with a Sergio Leone-derived fashion sense?


.....uh....

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 20 July 2019 19:14 (six years ago)

If you’re listening for Corey Glover then you’re listening wrong

calstars, Saturday, 20 July 2019 19:20 (six years ago)

Why did Corey Glover always sing like he was trying to imitate Stevie Ray Vaughan or John Popper or some other white-bluesman with a Sergio Leone-derived fashion sense?

No, Glover's delivery isn't blues or soul at all - it's pure Broadway corn. He should be singing songs from Rent or something.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 20 July 2019 19:36 (six years ago)

cough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed6TsOCIvUA

☮ (peace, man), Saturday, 20 July 2019 21:39 (six years ago)

Yeah pretty sick solo in that clip.

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Saturday, 20 July 2019 21:57 (six years ago)

harmolodic


I can totally hear a Neil Hagerty kinship

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Saturday, 20 July 2019 21:58 (six years ago)

The solo in this Arsenio clip may be even sicker (starts around 2:56):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j74mxqvxRDQ

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Saturday, 20 July 2019 22:15 (six years ago)

You want harmolodics? Here's a half hour of Ronald Shannon Jackson's Decoding Society with Reid on guitar and Melvin Gibbs on bass:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZL88zT-LsM

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 20 July 2019 22:26 (six years ago)

<3

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Saturday, 20 July 2019 22:29 (six years ago)

oh god he starts playing the fucking banjo

Un Poco Loco Moco (rushomancy), Saturday, 20 July 2019 22:38 (six years ago)

That Roskilde clip is insane!

Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 20 July 2019 23:17 (six years ago)

lol at that insane clip above. You can def. sense their harmolodic jazzbo training when it's bursting at the seams, threatening to fall apart, but they somehow manage to keep it together. Muzz, the most talented, most missed dude who ever just walked away.

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, July 20, 2019 3:02 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I imagine they've just been playing that song every night for two years and are just tinkering with little parts of the arrangement, throwing in stuff out of boredom or danger or art

Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 20 July 2019 23:20 (six years ago)

Sorry if I bit my "insane" description from Josh's post

Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 20 July 2019 23:20 (six years ago)

Like Will Calhoun just shifting the entire rhythm of this hit song into a shuffle from time to time? What rock band would ever do that?!

Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 20 July 2019 23:21 (six years ago)

I loved Muzz's playing when I were a lad, that modest little bass solo in Broken Hearts is beautiful, I saw them live later on with Doug and his playing was just as flashy as Vernon and it was a bit of a mess.

I had also totally forgotten about their metal-meets-daisy-age clothes they wore for those first couple of records :) Muzz could totally been in De La Soul.

MaresNest, Sunday, 21 July 2019 09:01 (six years ago)

Never understood the Body Glove thing, though.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 July 2019 14:26 (six years ago)

at the Minneapolis Lollapalooza tour date, they upstaged everyone

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 21 July 2019 14:40 (six years ago)

one year passes...

incredible song

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:52 (five years ago)

at the Minneapolis Lollapalooza tour date, they upstaged everyone

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, July 21, 2019 9:40 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

I was going to cosign this but it seems I already presigned it 15 years ago


I never liked Living Colour until I saw them at the first Lollapalooza, where to my surprise they walked away with the show, esp. with this song. I had no idea they covered "Memories Can't Wait" -- actually, that sounds really wrong, but I'll trust you if you say it's good.
― Guayaquil, Friday, August 19, 2005 10:38 AM (fifteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

(and yes, I too saw it at Harriet Island MPLS.)

Their cover of "Memories Can't Wait" is indeed really good, I later learned.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 23 April 2021 00:46 (five years ago)

as perhaps the only band ever that could do justice to a bad brains cover, I remember they killed "sailin' on"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 April 2021 01:32 (five years ago)

They did a pretty good cover of Pere Ubu's 'Final Solution' too.

Maresn3st, Friday, 23 April 2021 12:10 (five years ago)


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