Happiness is a stack of old rock music magazines

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I'm talking oooooooold here. I can now safely start this thread, now that Matos has had his chance to plunder..

..To explain.. my local vinyl store, Jive Time Records (in Fremont, Seattle), just bought a motherlode of really old rock magazines from the 60s to 80s... Rolling Stone, Creem, Circus, Trouser Press, Star Hits!, People, High Times, Hot Wacks, ...you name it. I picked up a few; Matos picked up more.. here are couple of shots of two of the ones I picked up:

http://www.mackron.com/random/trouserpress_alicecooper.jpghttp://www.mackron.com/random/musician_brianwilson.jpg

A 1981 era Trouser Press on "Sleaze" and a 1985 Musician mag exposé on Brian Wilson... and computers! The new thing!

These don't compare to the ones Matos got. His cover story on Wham! ? "Wham Sandwich". I let him show you "the picture" inside the article. Also one cover of High Times: a dual between two known rock stars separated by the phrase "bloody wanker!".

I also got a 1971 era Circus mag where they interview Jim Morrison, and a 1981 era Trouser Press special on Gary Numan where they talk about his work, and ponder why he's quitting his career. (HAW HAW HAW).

Anyway, this'll be the thread where we take these old rock mags, and Matos, I, or anyone else here can share anything memorable, funny, foretelling, UNforetelling, or all of the above from his/her own collection.

(And no worries to the locals... Jive Time in Fremont got sooo many of these, that more will be filtering in slowly throughout the following months.)

donut floccinaucinihilipilification (donut), Sunday, 21 August 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

From Circus, January 1971:

Pink Floyd to Score Ballet

The Pink Floyd, long considered one of the world's most advanced rock groups, will take its music one step further when they score a ballet to be preformed [sic] next year by Rudolf Nureyev and a troupe of sixty dancers.

The group will have a 108 piece orchestra at their disposal and "there will be the problem of transferring what we think on to paper and merging with what the other musicians think," said the rather enthused Floyd lead guitarist, Dave Gilmour. "There may be some scope for improvisation but it will be limited," he added.

"We have got quite a lot of ideas but we can't discuss them at the moment," said Gilmour reluctantly. "We are still very much at the beginning of things. We have never worked with a large orchestra before, only small ones."

The original idea came from Rolant Pettit, a French ballet producer who plans to stage the ballet at the Grand Palais in the Champs Elysees next year. Pettit said he was bored with the standard ballet material and had contacted Nureyev then decided to give the Floyd the go ahead on the project. The Floyd's manager, Steve O'Rourke, said, "It is a big step for the group to be working with musicians of this calibre and a big step for the ballet people to approach a group to write their music."

Gilmour, spokesman for the group, had this to say about the project: "It's pretty amazing. It's something we have never done before and no one from our field has ever done. It poses a whole lot of problems but opens up a lot of scope."

The Floyd are now touring America, with a new full length piece which is also on their new Capitol album, Atom Heart Mother.

donut floccinaucinihilipilification (donut), Sunday, 21 August 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)

I found some old magazines in storage last week(from 1991-1992) and while they weren't any music mags in there the VH-1 add for Michael Bolton ("Finally a Man Who Can Go Longer Than 20 Minutes", some concert), in People, and a GQ saying that this new group called "Pavement" was like Sonic Youth meets the Knack was pretty memorable.

Cunga (Cunga), Sunday, 21 August 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)

*add is a typo

Cunga (Cunga), Sunday, 21 August 2005 01:47 (twenty years ago)

http://www.dimsumdance.org/images/face-02.jpg

I have about 15 of these from 81-84, a friend who works at a library gave them to me. I'm slowly giving them away.

Mark (MarkR), Sunday, 21 August 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)

I found a nice large glossy covered edition of RS interviews from the '80's for a buck last year, definitely a keeper, though all dinosaurs of the day.

jim wentworth (wench), Sunday, 21 August 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)

You talking about the ones from '87?

Mark (MarkR), Sunday, 21 August 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

The decade is covered.

Keith Richards 1981
Pete Townshend 1982
Bob Dylan 1984
Everly Brothers 1986
David Bowie 1987
David Byrne 1988

34 in all. Mostly reminiscent stuff.

jim wentworth (wench), Sunday, 21 August 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)

Excerpt from Jim Morrison interview in that Circus from January 1971:

[...]

Circus: How do you think you'll die?

Morrison: I hope at about age 120 with a sense of humor and a nice comfortable bed. I wouldn't want anybody around. I'd just want to drift quietly off, but I'm still holding out. I think it's very possible that science has a chance in our lifetime to conquer death.

Circus: There are many people who believe in reincarnation and spirits. If medical science were to do that, what would happen to their spirit world?

Morrison: They'd just have to fend for themselves. Leave us poor immortals alone.

Circus: I take it you don't believe in Karma or reincarnation or the occult beliefs?

Morrison: No, not really, but since I don't have anything else to replace it with, I listen to everything. I don't say no.

Circus: What do you believe in then?

Morrison: We evolved from snakes and I used to see the universe as a mammoth peristaltic snake. I used to see all the people and objects and landscapes as little pictures on the facets of their skins. I think the peristaltic motion is the basic life movement and even your basic unicellular structures have this same motion. It's swallowing, digestion, the rhythms of sexual intercourse.

Circus: It's been said that you've been on a superstar, super-ego trip. Has this affected you or your friends, or your relations with the band?

Morrison: That's a complex one. Obviously you don't really talk about those things with people. I don't think it was that bad. I never noticed it too much except when I read magazine articles, but living in a town like L.A. you don't notice those images. People here are pretty blase about things like that.

Circus: How about the magazines?

Morrison: Actually I've always liked the things I've read. Of course it was about me. Usually you are most interested in yourself and people that you know. But . . . they were concentrating on my pregenitive organ too much and weren't paying attention to the fact that I was a fairly healthy young male specimen who also had other than your usual arms, legs, ribs, thorax, eyes . . . but a cerrebellum . . . your completely equipped human being with the head, sensitivity, the full equipment.

[...]

donut floccinaucinihilipilification (donut), Sunday, 21 August 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)

What the fuck, this person was a famous celebrity people listened to? "giant peristaltic snake"? What the fuck was wrong with my parent's generation. Actually thats an awesome excerpt. Not like I would actually read anything he wrote or listen to his music, it's just awesome to see a little excerpt like that.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Sunday, 21 August 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

My god, I used to own all that man's albums.

disco violence (disco violence), Sunday, 21 August 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

[Jaw drops] OMG Brian. I see now I went to the wrong Jive Time location today. Don't do this to me. I already spent plenty of money today. Walked to Everyday Music too. I still need the reissue of Stooges Funhouse, though, so that gives me an excuse to go over to Fremont. (mental gears turning, mind plotting...) How much are they charging for these things anyway?

The Spiderwebbed Wilderness (Bimble...), Sunday, 21 August 2005 03:15 (twenty years ago)

From the October 1986 issue of Star Hits, typed verbatim:

BANANARAMA: True Confessions (London)

It's always seemed to this boyo that the very best girl groups radiate a kind of toughness. The Shangri Las, The Ronettes or even Pearl Harbour always sounded like they were ready, willing and able to take a nail file and skin anybody who got in their way. Bananarama sound more like a pack of chippies who'd run home crying to their mums if their nail polish started to crack. On this record, these namby-pams go so far as to turn Shocking Blue's classic rocker "Venus" into a virtual anthem for the patsy generation. That's a capitol offense, and now that these crybabies have confessed to their complete worthlessness, I say we banish 'em from Woolworth's lipstick counter forever.
Byron Coley

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 21 August 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

My tiny tiny pile of Star Hits also features BC's reviews of the Stones' Dirty Work and Mazerati's self-titled. There's also reviews by one regular ILXor, but I'm not sure he'd appreciate the quotage (though there's nothing especially embarrassing I can see).

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 21 August 2005 03:33 (twenty years ago)

cosmetics-related analogies for female bands!!! -that is classic.

i also love the:
-"it's been said you were on a super star, super-ego trip.."
-"Obviously you don't really talk about these things with people. I don't think it was that bad."

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 21 August 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

the entire morrison excerpt pretty fascinating

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 21 August 2005 03:37 (twenty years ago)

How much are they charging for these things anyway?

It's generally $5 a pop, though you get cut a deal if you buy many. There are plenty that aren't worth it, but it's good to sift through and find "those" ones. ;)

donut floccinaucinihilipilification (donut), Sunday, 21 August 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)

Well that sounds fair enough to me. I'm sure they'd go for more online. I'm a real sucker for old mags because my mom threw out my entire mag collection without telling me some years back. Never have really forgiven her.

The Spiderwebbed Wilderness (Bimble...), Sunday, 21 August 2005 03:50 (twenty years ago)

GQ saying that this new group called "Pavement" was like Sonic Youth meets the Knack was pretty memorable.

GQ! so, sooo appropriate.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 21 August 2005 04:05 (twenty years ago)

I love my old Creem mags and my issue of The Face with Depeche Mode visiting the Detroit scene during the filming of 101. The photo of Dave Gahan and Derrick May sharing chocolate chip cookies is pretty priceless.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Sunday, 21 August 2005 04:33 (twenty years ago)

I always regret telling my mom to just throw out my entire late-80s SPIN collection when I went away to college. There was a lot of Kogan/Eddy/etc in there that I must have assumed I'd never want. Oh well. My awesome Crawdaddy collection makes me feel better though. Everything from #8 through #20. (#1-#7 are too ungodly rare and expensive to bother tracking down at this point)

Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 21 August 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)

I have a nice pile of NME/MM between 88 and 93 or so. The cat's got to some of them tho :(

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 21 August 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone want a healthy but random pile of Uncut/Q/Word/Record Collector/Future Music/Sound On Sound mags reaching back a few years, buyer collects, NW London.

mzui (mzui), Sunday, 21 August 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

There's also reviews by one regular ILXor, but I'm not sure he'd appreciate the quotage

SHAME: I HAVE NONE. However, some of my interviews, w/the likes of aha or Corey Hart would be cringe-worthy now. Byron Coley wrote many hilarious and warm-hearted reviews for Star Hits despite the ribbing he got from his underground buddies. By 1986 the magazine was winding down as hair metal displaced new wave, the "golden era" was 1984-85. Many articles were reprints from Smash Hits.

When my parents moved out of the house I grew up in, my sainted mom threw away my box of old magazines: Creem from the Lester era and late 70s Village Voice. Tragedy! Somewhere in storage I've got a box of New York Rocker Star Hits and early 80s Village Voice among other obscurities. RIP?

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 21 August 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

Please, please, please tell me you were writing for Star Hits in 1984, 'cause that's when I was reading it in earnest. MAKE YA FEEL OLD ALL OVER.

The two issues I've got only have small reviews with your byline, no interviews: A Flock of Seagulls' Dream Come True, Prince's Parade, Brian Setzer live, Bronski Beat and the Communards, The Adrian Mole Diaries. There's nothing terribly embarrassing here, or at least more embarrassing than usual for Star Hits. (Lovely magazine -- luring Europhile teeners into a life of vice -- but chirpy house style, of course.)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 21 August 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

I also have most of the VV music quarterlies from the late eighties/early nineties and many stray articles; most issues of Spin from 1985 to 1990; random fanzines from the same time, including Motorbooty, Teenage Gang Debs and my beloved Swellsville; copies of Nerve, Legs McNeil's attempt at making Star Hits for intelligent deliquents; many magazine and newspapers with Cobain obits and memorials, including entire copies of the NYT, VV, and the New York Post, which has as the lead cover photo the amazingly awful press release pic of Cobain pointing a rifle in his mouth.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 21 August 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

Please, please, please tell me you were writing for Star Hits in 1984

Writing, editing, transcribing song lyrics, answering trivia questions under the pseudonym "Jackie" and taking out the trash: I worked there full-time from the launch in late 83 through 1985.

The "chirpy" house style was later appropriated by Sassy.

ah for the days spent opening letters-to-the-editor w/"Sid Lives" scrawled on Garfield stationary. actually nostalgia sux.

recently I unearthed a copy of The Virgin Rock Yearbook 1985 with pieces by Julie Burchill, Robert Elms, Chris Heath, Neil Tennant(uproarious on Billy Idol) yours truly and one Mark Sinker (on world music)! I'll try to post some of the Tennant thing later.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 21 August 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)


I've been buying stacks of old mags -- a My War-era Black Flag feature in Musician is probably the best thing on the band I've ever read. Fascinating how intense their legal situation was at the time.

Paraphrasing Greg Ginn, closing the story: "If you don't like us, fine. You can join the massive numbers of people worldwide who don't listen to Black Flag. It's a widespread phenomenon."

Also -- the writing in most old Creem's, TPs, etc really sucks. You have to work a lot harder to make a buck these days.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 21 August 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

neil tennant on billy idol

In September '84 Billy returned to England to promote 'Eyes Without A Face" his first British hit of the eighties. Coming home evidently unhinged him a little, although he had already adopted "rock 'n' roll" standards of behaviour. He made a fool of himself on Radio One's Roundtable show, having to be led out of the studio midway through the broadcast for swearing incoherently. He smashed up his rented flat in Mayfair. He went to visit the Frankie "lads" -- Mark, Nasher and Ped -- and reputedly helped them to smash up their flat as well. He ranted to me when I interviewed him about how he was going to see his father on his sixtieth birthday and "give him hell for the fact that he didn't believe me." He wanted " a certain level of respect," he said, and was pissed off by "the terrible pessimism which is killing music" in Britain. He'll never get the respect he wants in Britian and growling, as he did on Top of the Pops, about how he'd "come here to rock 'n roll" is not going to help. But talking about his obsession with punk and rock 'n roll he becomes quite eloquent.

Rock 'n roll, he has said, "is a type of music that goes beyond whether you can play a guitar or not. That goes beyond synthesizers. It's really a world that exists and it talks about love and beauty. It talks about realness. It talks about suffering, pain, dying, loving things. It's country-and-western music. It's to do with black people and white people. It's to do with a type of soul that England's totally rejected. You hear it in reggae music and I listen to reggae music a lot. You hear it in Jewish songwriters. You hear it loads of different types of cultures which have been repressed. But I don't hear it in English music right now. It's about time that England opened its arms to music and believed."

And the resentment he still feels about not being taken seriously floats to the surface.

"All people did was laugh and I can remember that. I remember people laughing at rock 'n roll -- even when punk was happening. Now I see people laughing at rock 'n roll. But they will learn."

They won't learn anything from him, of course, and in his heart he'll always be the resentful punk. But it'll be a long time till he travels home by bus again.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 21 August 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
bump

bump, Tuesday, 6 September 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

Phonograph Record Magazine. 1971-78, R.I.P.. For a magazine that originally started out as a house organ for United Artists Records (also long-dead), this rag was surprisingly literate. It was like a slightly more serious version of Creem, and most of the writers from that mag also turned up in Phonograph Record: Greg Shaw (editor), Lester Bangs, Metal Mike Saunders, Nick Tosches, Vince Aletti, etc..

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)

Yep, great reviews (and great reivewers) throughout PRM. Incidentally, a few years back I bought an old issue from '72 from a Toronto used bookstore, with a mailing label stuck to it. It was addressed to "David Marsh c/o CREAM (sic) Magazine"! And within its pages is a Lester Bangs review of Exile On Main Street over which somebody scribbled "FUCK YOU" for whatever reason. (I emailed Marsh and he claimed that it wasn't he who wrote that, then speculated that it was Ben Edmonds.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

woah, never even heard of this! hey Rev. lemme borrow a couple sometime!

Myonga was Lester's Exile review positive or negative?

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)

Never heard of it?! Well here's what it looked like:
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=phonograph+record+magazine/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=11re56qes/EXP=1126144365/*-http%3A//yesmuseum.org/images/phono01.jpg

A tabloid, like the ancient Rolling Stone/Creem/Crawdaddy etc. And on closer inspection, I was wrong: It wasn't a Bangs REVIEW of "Exile" but rather a letter complaining about someone else's review! And he appears to be a supporter, judging from these random statements: "[Exile] GETS DOWN more than any other Stones album 'cept Now...steal the album and buy GIN!...The only perso who dug the ineluctable trutch and fire of the Stones album in front and wrote about it was Danny Sugarman."

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

They actually have a few issues of Phonograph Record at the Harold Washington Library in Chicago...the bad news is that it's the later ones from '75-'78, rather than the complete set.

Don't get me wrong, any ish of PRM is good, but like Creem, they seemed to get in the groove during the earlier part of the decade.

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

I have a couple issues of PRM, one from May '72 with an article on Krautrock (that mentions Kraftwerk only to say the writer didn't see them and thought they had broken up). Also one from March '73 with a Todd Rundgren feature and another story on "Space music's big three: Pink Floyd, Hawkwind, and Amon Duul." I liked this mag as much as Rolling Stone at the time. The paper is very brittle now, unfortunately. I tore the cover of the older one just now.

And these are "Free from KDAY" in Los Angeles rather than WBBM.

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 06:15 (twenty years ago)


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