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I just left a correction comment to allmusic.com because Klaus Nomi's s/t album's 5th track is called "You Don't Own Me" and the put "You Don't OWE Me".

Has anyone else ever corrected or had problems with tracklistings on allmusic?

Voodoo Child, Sunday, 21 August 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)

never.

strng hlkngtn, Sunday, 21 August 2005 03:08 (twenty years ago)

just the other night i actually noticed they list SABBATH BLOODY SABBATH under Singles instead of LPs.

tonyD (noiseyrock), Sunday, 21 August 2005 03:20 (twenty years ago)

Well, there's only a gazillion albums in the database. And we're all obviously paying to use the site. So mistakes should obviously not be tolerated.

donut floccinaucinihilipilification (donut), Sunday, 21 August 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)

THEY MADE A MINOR MISTAKE IN THE TITLE OF KLAUS NOMI'S 5TH ALBUM. SLIIIIIIIIIPPERY SLOPE.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 21 August 2005 04:31 (twenty years ago)

And they messed up really bad on Of Montreal's "The Gay Parade" Tracklist. They had me looking for a song that was already on another song for almost a year.

Voodoo Child, Sunday, 21 August 2005 04:42 (twenty years ago)

Errors of fact and judgment (a subjective thing, of course, but there are some real howlers) are rampant on AMG. A long time ago I tried to make corrections to the Heldon entry, but nothing changed so I gave up.

My suggestion: Start your own comprehensive music database. AMG has gotten complacent due to lack of competition.

original plagiarist (Da ve Segal), Sunday, 21 August 2005 04:46 (twenty years ago)

this type of blatant negligence must not be tolerated. dont let elephant (6) sized errors go on any longer. god knows what will happen if they dont update the olivia tremor control bio to include Mangum's recent live apperance with them.

jmeister (jmeister), Sunday, 21 August 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)

i don't want to fucking THINK about that!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 21 August 2005 05:32 (twenty years ago)

Haha...AMG will always be my first choice.

Is Amazon's track listing ever incorrect?

BeeOK (boo radley), Sunday, 21 August 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

well Amazon usually just uses allmusic's tracklistings.

Voodoo Child, Sunday, 21 August 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)

i gotta give em credit for putting the CORRECT tracklistings for GZA and Ghostface albums, given that the ones on the cases are totally wrong

-vest, Sunday, 21 August 2005 07:49 (twenty years ago)

I have The Essential Firmament and the Elements which according to amg is a compilation by the band Essential Firmament released in 1985. I mailed them two and a half years ago to point out that the band is Firmament and the Elements, the year was I think 1982 and it is not, as far as I can see, a compilation. A track listing was also submitted. Nothing happened.

I would say, though, that their failing to correct these errors is of relatively minor importance.

OleM (OleM), Sunday, 21 August 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)

Well, there's only a gazillion albums in the database. And we're all obviously paying to use the site. So mistakes should obviously not be tolerated.

Uh dude, he just wanted to make a correction,it's not as though he criticizes Allmusic for messing up. So he should just leave it?

nathalie starts to cry each time we meet (stevie nixed), Sunday, 21 August 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

preemptive strike.. i knew what the thread would become (and i was right... despite the preemptive strike. sigh.)

donut floccinaucinihilipilification (donut), Sunday, 21 August 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

When I last worked on the feedbacks (4-5 years ago), it took a few hours to find a couple pieces of useful information, and the number of submissions I sifted through covered a short span of time. Again, apologies to anyone who has put forth the effort to no result. I'm positive we're currently able to devote more time to feedback but I'm also sure that the signal-to-noise ratio is no better. Contact me if you'd like. All help is appreciated.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Sunday, 21 August 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

My suggestion: Start your own comprehensive music database. AMG has gotten complacent due to lack of competition.

Others are talking about it but it's suprising how long it's taking to get the WikiMusic site up and running. Until then AMG's probably best we have despite it's faults.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 21 August 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)

Is it true that there are deliberate errors in the Allmusic database so they can tell if someone steals their content?

walter kranz (walterkranz), Sunday, 21 August 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

They referred to Gino Soccio as an Italian Eurodisco artist. I left 'em a message pointing out that he's in fact Canadian. Dunno if it's been corrected yet.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 21 August 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

ned is responsible. he's trying to sabotage the internet.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 21 August 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

I saw a short quote from AMG on some sticker on a new CD the other day. It didn't say who the writer was. It was one short, particularly awkward phrase and I thought "god, how embarassing for AMG".

The Spiderwebbed Wilderness (Bimble...), Monday, 22 August 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

ned is responsible. he's trying to sabotage the internet.

Worked so far!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 August 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)

Is it true that there are deliberate errors in the Allmusic database so they can tell if someone steals their content?

Somewhere here there's a thread about someone uncovering one of these, an Aretha Franklin album that implausibly included "Jet Boy Jet Girl" as one of the tracks. I've no idea what the thread title is, however.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 22 August 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I thought I read about that on here. It would make sense because otherwise the database would be incredibly easy to steal since none of the tracklistings or discographies are exactly copyrightable. Changing a song title from "You Don't Owe Me" to "You Don't Own Me" seems like precisely the type of change that would be relatively harmless and inconspicuous.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 22 August 2005 03:47 (twenty years ago)

or a typo

lkf, Monday, 22 August 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

an Aretha Franklin album that implausibly included "Jet Boy Jet Girl"

Once again, ILM has broken my heart with the phantom of unlikely cover versions that never have been and never could be.

The Spiderwebbed Wilderness (Bimble...), Monday, 22 August 2005 04:31 (twenty years ago)

"Harbinger" is spelt "harbRinger" in a Cabaret Voltaire review by Ned!

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Monday, 22 August 2005 04:37 (twenty years ago)

six years pass...

From the Twisted Sister biography:

"For his part, Snider remained in the camera eye, however, appearing before a Senate committee later that year (along with such rock & roll luminaries as Frank Zappa and Bob Denver) to testify against the Parents Music Resource Center's demands for music censorship legislation."

lol

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 4 November 2011 23:34 (fourteen years ago)

People mixing up John Denver and Bob Dylan make me irrationally angry.

blank, Saturday, 5 November 2011 00:23 (fourteen years ago)

Damn mistagged mp3s

blank, Saturday, 5 November 2011 00:25 (fourteen years ago)

Such rock'n'roll luminaries as Frank Zappa and Denver, The Last Dinosaur...

Turrican, Saturday, 5 November 2011 00:50 (fourteen years ago)

he's my friend

Neanderthal, Saturday, 5 November 2011 01:02 (fourteen years ago)

and a whole lot more

Neanderthal, Saturday, 5 November 2011 01:02 (fourteen years ago)

From this review of Led Zeppelin's "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You":

Led Zeppelin often placed their own names on works that can easily be attributed, at least in part, to other songwriters. Thus you have "Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You," which on the album is credited as "traditional, arranged by Jimmy Page" when it was in fact written by Anne Bredon (aka Annie Briggs).

WTF? Anne Bredon and Anne Briggs are not the same person!

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Saturday, 5 November 2011 03:25 (fourteen years ago)

Stephen Thomas Erlewine's review of Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark's 'Universal' album, which reads thus:

Universal is a rote collection of synth-pop and dance-pop from OMD, demonstrating only a fraction of the sophisticated craft that made its predecessor Liberator enjoyable, and none of the adventurous spirit of their '80s records.

It must be said, first of all, that 'Universal' is far from one of my favourite OMD albums. In fact, I find it quite a patchy album overall, even if it does have a couple of solid moments on it. One thing is certainly isn't, though, is a collection of 'dance-pop', and neither could I call it a 'synth-pop' record either. If anything, 'Universal' for the most part seems to be based on standard 'rock band' instrumentation, rather like their 'Crush' album. It certainly doesn't sound anything like 'Liberator', which to me is comfortably the worst OMD album, is far more standard 'dance-pop' than 'Universal', and contains no saving graces at all. The production values are noticeably higher on 'Universal' also.

The only thing that makes sense to me about the review is that the record has "none of the adventurous spirit of their '80s records", which is very true. It's very much a "mainstream" album in the Britpop mould. However, while I'm usually not one to spout things like "are you listening to the same album as me!?" whenever someone dislikes something that I do, in this case I am left wondering if Erlewine did actually listen to the record.

Turrican, Saturday, 5 November 2011 04:16 (fourteen years ago)

Led Zeppelin often placed their own names on works that can easily be attributed, at least in part, to other songwriters. Thus you have "Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You," which on the album is credited as "traditional, arranged by Jimmy Page" when it was in fact written by Anne Bredon (aka Annie Briggs).

WTF? Anne Bredon and Anne Briggs are not the same person!

― Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Friday, November 4, 2011 8:25 PM (50 minutes ago)

Yeah that is some serious wtfness... Anne Briggs "wrote" "Black Water Side" which Page borrowed heavily from Briggs' ex-lover Bert Jansch's arrangement, that song is old as dirt though.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 5 November 2011 04:18 (fourteen years ago)

Correct. Actually, Page borrowed heavily from Jansch's style in general during Zep's acoustic/folky moments IMO.

As far as I'm aware, Anne Briggs had nothing to do with "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" though.

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Saturday, 5 November 2011 12:54 (fourteen years ago)

three months pass...

This track listing for Tim Hardin's 1966 debut album shows his oft-covered "Reason to Believe" as having been co-written by Bruce Springsteen. I don't think so......

everything else is secondary (Lee626), Monday, 20 February 2012 04:40 (fourteen years ago)


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