Sanctuary is in trouble

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― BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 04:42 (twenty years ago)

They were in trouble back when they were CMC (and got out of it by transmogrifying and stopping relying solely on burned-out glam metal).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)

I first thought you meant CMJ, the rock magazine. I loved that magazine, back in the day, but haven't seen it in stores for awhile now…

― BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

that's why she should sell it.

― donut gon' nut (donut), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 04:59 (twenty years ago)

if everyone buys the saint etienne album that might help

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 04:59 (twenty years ago)

or the Boo Radleys. :)

― BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 05:01 (twenty years ago)

man, and morrissey thought he finally had found a home!

― ken taylrr has gone off the internet because of you (ken taylrr), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 05:09 (twenty years ago)

morrissey has already fallen out w/ sanctuary, don't you worry abt that

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 05:31 (twenty years ago)

i can't find the saint etienne album! it doesn't exist in vancouver! it's hurting me.

― derrick (derrick), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 05:38 (twenty years ago)

Most blame was directed to its bullish expansion activities in recent years and on the "slippage" of urban genre album releases.

Does this mean that people just don't buy music by white people any more?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)

Not long since the Sanctuary Group was featured on BBC Breakfast business news as a model of success due to their wide-ranging activities and fingers in pies.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)

so books weren’t a good idea?

― BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 07:05 (twenty years ago)

Or have Sanctuary been told to put out some "urban genre album releases" in order to make money? I see Light of the World have recently reformed.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 07:11 (twenty years ago)

Beyoncé's father is head of Sanctuary Urban...

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 08:48 (twenty years ago)

Blimey I didn't even know there was a "Sanctuary Urban." What sort of stuff have they been "slipping" out then?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)

Whither Morrissey's 'vanity' Attack label? He did at least try...

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

Sadly, the Thatcherkids of today preferred Keane...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

The last De La Soul album was on Sanctuary.

Just to be clear, this is the same Sanctuary that in the UK is primarily a reissue label, right? (i.e. that owns Castle, Trojan etc.) Or are there two of them?

― zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

Yes, same one. Also into management.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

And signing up artists who are perhaps past their commercial peak.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

haha like Saint Et! *ducks*

or to put it more kindly, artists with a small but loyal fanbase?

― zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

Artist with a guaranteed sale quantity.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

Might be a moot point when it comes to Saint Etienne (David Essex cameo, Tony Rivers vocal arrangement, uniformly rave reviews and it still didn't get past #72).

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

Ah but if they can guarantee every subsequent album will get to #72 or thereabouts, they'll never press too many.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

72 copies, perhaps?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

to be fair, that de la album beyonce's dad put out was the best album de la soul have had since 1994.

― okok, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

Artist with a small guaranteed sale quantity.

― Edward Bax (EdBax), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

Are they into promotion and ticket sales and stuff too? The point of the biggying up of them back in the day was that they were not as vulnerable to the tastes of the record-buying public as their rivals.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

Unfortunately, if the tastes of the record-buying public do not stretch to Sanctuary releases, then I'm afraid they're just as vulnerable as anyone else because then they don't make any money.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

they also are in charge of dj yoda's label - antidote - so there's a little piece of urban.

recently though they really have bought up most of the past-sell-by-date market have't they ?

there trojan remarketig has been totally fine .. just wish i could afford to buy more of them !

― mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

I think the point was that downloading was going to scupper record sales, but concerts would still do good business, hence the fingers in pies. Seems it wasn't true, althiough that report seems to suggest they are just labouring under a lot of debt from their recent-ish acquisitions, which is normal business practice, I think.

Not much of their stuff seems designed to shift loads of units.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

Makes me want to get all the Morrissey product he put out on Sanctuary in the past year+ now, though, since it will probably be out of print in a year or so. Kinda funny since it was his most successful solo album worldwide, no? I got the original release of the album but now I feel like I need to go ahead and get that deluxe edition with all the b-sides and the live album. And also maybe that De La album in case they're all gone soon and what about that Nancy Sinatra. Wait, is this what they're trying to make happen with such announcements?

― matt2 (matt2), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

I assume they're not on their last legs...but at the same time I'm quite glad all those Fall reissues and the Peel Session set have come out when they did.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

Does all this affect Lloyd Cole?

― the bellefox, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

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