new tATu album "Moving and Dangerous"... do people still care?

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Sounds like more of the same, but the same is really nice in this case.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 28 August 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

There's another thread about the single and video.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 28 August 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

"Loves Me Not" is particularly fantastic. And it's amazing that gosh, darn, there's a sequence of ballads in the middle and they don't suck. The only thing MISSING seems to be ONE (or two, as the first one had) killer single that will forever be remembered. But it's consistent and enjoyable stuff.

― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 28 August 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

If it's good, I'll care.

― billstevejim (billstevejim), Monday, 29 August 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

I think "All About Us" qualifies as The Killer Single; it just hasn't caught us by surprise this time.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Monday, 29 August 2005 03:50 (twenty years ago)

The title track is one of the most incredible things I've heard all year, but it's no WAY a single, even though in Russia, the Russian version is indeed the first single.

― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 29 August 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

D'oh! I just realized I titled this thread backwards.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 29 August 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

you mean it was supposed to be "'Moving and Dangerous' new tATu album... people still do care?"

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 29 August 2005 04:37 (twenty years ago)

Or possibly "Care still people do dangerous and moving"?

― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Monday, 29 August 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)

I care. Deeply. Would anybody care to ysi a zip of the album...?

― Captain Sleep (Captain Sleep), Monday, 29 August 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)

it's possible i care more about TaTu than Rasputina...
possible, but not likely.

― eedd, Monday, 29 August 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

I thought they did care.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

"All About Us" is so fucking awesome it isn't funny.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

x-post
eedd, are you a Rasputina fan? i thought i was the only one up here.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

I flove "All About Us"! One of the best singles so far this year.

― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

i can dig me some Rasputina here and there.
nothing i listen to on a daily basis, but in small doses can be aight.
now, TaTu, on the other hand...

― eedd, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

I've found about half of it, loving it so far even if most of the tracks are just rewrites of "Not Gonna Get Us".

― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 3 September 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I think every fast track at least follows the "Not Gonna Get Us" template. "Sacrifice" is pretty ace, though.

― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Saturday, 3 September 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

Similiarly, to my ears, "All About Us" totally follows the template shown in "All The Things You Said," doesn't it?

― billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 3 September 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

ha, tom's comment has me excited about seeking this out now!

― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 3 September 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

Are there photos of the girls "doing it" in the cover?

That's the only reason i would care.

― Elvis is Dead, Sunday, 4 September 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

they sound much better - the riff of the year.
sounds like a fourth single.
nothing innovative,nothing surprising,nothing dissapointing.

― us, Sunday, 4 September 2005 05:08 (twenty years ago)

It sorta does have the same sound as the first album, but I definitely care. I've waited a long time to hear something new from them. Where can I find the russian versions of these songs, does anyone know? Cosmos has a nice sound to it, I still havent heard every track yet.

― Dan the man AK, Sunday, 4 September 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

The Russian version hasn't leaked yet. "Ludi Invalidi", the song, doesn't sound as RAWK as "Dangerous And Moving", the song from the video clip.

― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 4 September 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone have the Russian tracklisting?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 4 September 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

1. Ludi Invalidi (Intro)
2. Novaya Model
3. Obezyanka Nol
4. Loves Me Not
5. Kosmos
6. Ti Soglasna
7. Nichya
8. Vsya Moya Lubov
9. All About Us
10. Shto Ne Hvataet
11. Ludi Invalidi

― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 4 September 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

Hell yea they care, the album is great and all my friends love "All About Us". Its like a huge chorus, you can hear bells, string instruments, and all this other stuff, big big chorus. Love the song and love the album, hopefully we will see alot more of them in the Americas in the future.

― t.A.T.u97, Thursday, 15 September 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)

The album is bookended by two great singles (I'm assuming that the title track will be a single) but inbetween them it's a bit middling. Although as long as they keep releasing such fantastic singles then I'm not really concerned about their inability to put together a consistently great album.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 15 September 2005 02:32 (twenty years ago)

"Loves Me Not", "Friend Or Foe", "Gomenasai" and "Craving" all sound like singles as well, and "Cosmos" and "Sacrifice" are also pretty spectacular, so I reckon it's actually consistently great.

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 15 September 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

Is there a Russian language version of the single out yet???

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 15 September 2005 06:13 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if there is going to be a Russian version of "All About Us". "Lyudi Invalidi" is the first Russian single, and yes, it has leaked.

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 15 September 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

Still like them, still fancy them.

― Drowning Man (Barima), Thursday, 15 September 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)

Which is the one after "Gormenasai"? the midsection has been lifted directly from the first Kylie album and is pretty incongruous and fantastic among the massive gloom elsewhere. "Gormenasai" itself also deserves further madprops for being a ballad that manages to LIGHTEN the mood somewhat, and the title track for being basically the same fantastic track as the "Soon" one offof the new Ladytron. swirly tATu wizards.

― Alex in Sheffield (Alex in Doncaster), Thursday, 15 September 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)

Okay, Tatuists, come clear at last - is it or isn't it "the best tATu album in years", then?

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 15 September 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

There are so many to choose from.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 15 September 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)

TOUCHE!!!!!

and lol.

― eedd, Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

It's probably their best album since "Blood on the Tracks"

― iodine (iodine), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

It's honestly the only album I've liked this year (unless I'm forgetting some).

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

Here's a link to a Nato's video.
http://www.natomusic.de/NATO.mpg

I was quite surprised to read that this track has been in the charts in Israel and Germany, and also played by MTV.

― snowballing (snowballing), Thursday, 15 September 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

The Nato thing is crap, shes a one hit wonder, who would want to have a singing terrorist sing at their thing?

Anyway, I'm just waiting for All About Us to play on the radio, HOPEFULLY it will play tommorrow, since "Lyudi Invalidi" is hitting the Russian radio in "heavy rotation" tommorrow. That is the Russian single as "All About Us" is the American single, so hopefully that will be put in "Heavy Rotation" also. I just cannot wait til they hit the USA.

― t.A.T.u97, Friday, 16 September 2005 03:00 (twenty years ago)

― trash tramps, Friday, 16 September 2005 03:29 (twenty years ago)

I hope they work with the Pet Shop Boys at some point.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 16 September 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)

(I had forgotten Fannypack btw.)

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)

t.a.t.u are tottaly wikked i love them this abum is gunna be good

― james mclaren, Monday, 19 September 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

tatu are one of a kind

― james mclaren, Monday, 19 September 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

which kylie song do you mean ?

"It's No Secret", as it turns out.

― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 19 September 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

i care i thin tatu is cool

― AMBI ROBINSON, Friday, 23 September 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

is it there best album to date?

― ajourneytothedeepend, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

Just found a promo copy of Dangerous And Moving on the discard pile here at work, and was somewhat surprised to see that fuckin' STING plays bass on one of the tracks.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)

not only that, but the bassline in question is not some fretless horror you'd expect but a nice early Police-style riff!

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)

Might actually have to listen to it now.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)

I'm a big fan of the Aloud/Rachel/Kylie etc., so I like this sort of thing, but Dangerous and Moving didn't really do it for me. Maybe they need to start being lesbians again or something.

― John Hunter, Friday, 28 October 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)

Alex, would it weird you out even further if I add that the song with Sting on bass was written by Dave Stewart?

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

Dave Stewart not so much (I mean, really, fuck else is he doing?)

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 28 October 2005 02:29 (twenty years ago)

I really wish the album were better. It's a little low on energy, for the most part.

― Hillary Brown (Hillary Brown), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

Not really, it just has strangely unflattering sequencing (a big block of ballads clumped in the middle).

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

Well, that's true, but even on the faster tracks, they're not going as apeshit as they should be.

― Hillary Brown (Hillary Brown), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

hillary otm. apart from 'all about us' and the title track there's nothing as massively, triumphantly banging as most of the first album. most of it sounds like dodgy european soft rock.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

I find that "Friend Or Foe" trumps "All About Us" in some respects. And the Russian song ("Monkey Zero" - WTF?) and "Loves Me Not" are not bad at all, although somewhat by-the-numbers.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

this was massively disappointing. i like "all about us" okay, but there's something about the second half of the chorus ("all about u-u-us"), when it slows down, that really irritates me - so it basically makes the track unlistenable.

― sean gramophone (Sean M), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

"when it slows down"?

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it's a real Zappa-esque breakdown there.

That softer plaintive part is what makes the song fucking great.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

dear jesus christ, people, how can you???

oh well maybe i know too much about russian pop music...
and how tatu tried to 'steal' the award from the girl who made songs for their first album....

oh.

― nique (nique), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

That softer plaintive part is what makes the song fucking great.

It doesn't seem like Sean's not talking about the soft, plaintive bridge, though! Going by what he wrote, he's talking about the "It's all about us/In you I can trust" part, which is rather blatantly in the same tempo as the first half of the chorus.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

okay i was working from memory when i posted that, but now that i have the song in-ears i can correct my statement.

the annoying bit isn't a tempo change, but the longer vocal notes that come after "run away if we must" -- just the one line, "cause you know ho-ow". At 0:43 and 1:29, etc. Something about that hanging ho-ow is really unpleasant to me. That might be the "softer plaintive part" you were referring to, but I suspect you mean the phrases that follow the "ho-ow" (and are good).

anyway, that's MY take. :)

― sean gramophone (Sean M), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

No, the "softer, plaintive part" is:

They don't know
They can't see
Who we are
Fear is the enemy
Hold on tight
Hold onto me
Cause tonight...

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Oh, that one. Okay, that's kind of a nothing bridge to get you in the mood to hear the chorus one more time.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Friday, 28 October 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

all you people who don't like t.a.t.u. shouldnt be so naive to put a comment that its not nice and its so corny and i dont know what.. t.a.t.u. will always be the best,, theyre not lesbians, theyre just theirselves.... so... please... excuse the no. 1 fan of t.a.t.u. out of this page. thnx yulia & lena,, rocks!

― shosho, Friday, 30 December 2005 05:10 (twenty years ago)

Coincidentally just in time for shosho's spirited revival of this thread, I note that the Onion AV Club has named this album the year's least essential LP. In Tatu's defense, it seemed like one of the AV Club's least inspired and focused inessential albums list, with a lot of dubious logic and forced selections. Also, they were being naive and corny and I don't know what!

― Doctor Casino, Friday, 30 December 2005 06:06 (twenty years ago)

People who fancy themselves as cleverer than they are in not getting amazing Europop complete NON SHOCKAH.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 30 December 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

I always had a bit of a beef with Onion's invention of the "least essential" tag. It lets them off the hook as far as any meaningful opinion is concerned ("hey, we didn't say 'worst!'") while at the same time positioning them as omniscient gatekeepers. Hmph.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Friday, 30 December 2005 06:56 (twenty years ago)

who ?

― retrogurl, Friday, 30 December 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

Ya I agree, least essential is so meaningless

― Stephen C (ihope), Friday, 30 December 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)

this is our secret place
outer space
outer space

Jon Anderson ghost writing for Russian teens...

The first album was so powerful, and this stuff is just... yawn.

― Mitya (mitya), Friday, 30 December 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)

Agreed. "Least essential" allows them to make a bunch of obvious jokes about the likes of Scott Stapp without the need to explain why the album sucks. Substitute t.A.T.u for Stapp, bust out the lesbian jokes, and voila, let the reader read between the lines (except the album doesn't suck, whoops).

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Friday, 30 December 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)

I've enjoyed some of the Least Essential pieces in the past when they've been used less as a way to hate on individual bad artists as a way to point up the industry's relentless pushing of product. Finding CDs that should truly be of no interest to ANYBODY makes a mockery of A&R and the artificial obstacles to getting bands signed. This year's list just doesn't work, for including things like the Hancock pop crossover album, which would presumably be essential for Hancock obsessives and fans of any of the sort-of popular artists featured therein. At least, that's the kind of logic I've seen them use in the past. I dunno.

― Doctor Casino, Friday, 30 December 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

I like my pop a bit more cheery. Not terrible, though.

― Gukbe (lokar), Friday, 30 December 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)

funny enough, http://avclub.com/content/node/44019/print/ attempts to answer the thread's question (not very well)

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 30 December 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

The thing is, that blurb would work really well if the album had flopped, but it was a hit album in pretty much every single European country. You know, where they actually try and sell records.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 31 December 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

For their next dip into the Morrissey catalogue, Tatu should do a cover of "America Is Not The World".

― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 31 December 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

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