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This was forwarded to me this morning... apparently it originates from an enraged Canadian... I thought you might get a kick out of it:

"...well if they're not doing interviews then what the fuck do we want with their picture? Business is Business Goldberg, we want to sell magazines, they want to sell records. Tell them to stop their whining, be men, and...(hells bells) answer a question or two. I guess Matador is in the business of peddling off egos rather than music. Are Belle and Sebastian George W. Bush? Do they really think any reporter is going to ask them the "hard questions," even if there were any to ask? I feel sorry for the magazines that have to put up with your label's ignorant shit just to make any kind of headway with a musician. For Christ's sakes I've been getting emails from the likes of you for months on end, and not once has anyone, ever responded to any of my requests for interviews. I haven't even been granted one lousy promo copy for review. You didn't specify in your message what the reason BS wouldn't be doing interviews. I can only assume that its no less profound than something along the lines of "like, ya know, whatever." Fuck Belle and Sebastian. Fuck Matador Records. Fuck the whole goddamn hurt indignation of the indie world. And fuck you Ben Goldberg. Stop sending me your lame ass emails."

― Andy, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

fuck belle & sebastian, fuck matador as a staff record label and as a motherfuckin crew / and if you wanna be down with matador; then fuck you too

― ethan, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I haven't even been granted one lousy promo copy for review.

Promosexuals get ornery when they're denied!

― Andy K, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't understand. What was the email this was responding to? I presume Ben Goldberg works for Matador. But what had he said to inflame this? Just 'sorry - you can't have an interview"?

I guess Matador is in the business of peddling off egos rather than music.

Errr.. aren't interviews a prime feature of 'ego over music' thinking?

― N., Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hey cool! My email got through! ;)

― Sean Carruthers, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Looks like someone takes their job far too seriously, and it ain't Ben Goldberg.

As if record companies like it when their artists don't do interviews and subsequently don't get as much publicity.

― hstencil, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"fuck belle & sebastian, fuck matador as a staff record label and as a motherfuckin crew / and if you wanna be down with matador; then fuck you too"

the old school rap thread was slightly under the link you clicked on.

― Joe "PappaWheelie" Gonzalez, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I love it when journalists are faced with the triviality or their profession and the parasitic nature of how that profession is carried out.

It doesn't seem to occur to this journalist is that maybe the reason he isn't getting an interview is because, "like, ya know, he's an asshole".

There was a terrific thread recently on matadoreurope where Marc Beaumont, (a writer I have a very poor opinion of) where he tried to justify the snideness and duplicity of almost all journalists (and his own in particular) and ended up looking a pathetic clueless egomaniac when faced with the prospect of people actually able to reply / correct to his ramblings.

― Alexander Blair, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Isn't the Matador era over?

It was beautiful in it's prime.

― Gage-o, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Do you have a link, Alexander? That sounds fabulous.

― Xerxes Buttles, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Here you go. Watch out though, there's a bit of a weird running order.

― DG, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Is it worth an ILM thread of its own?

― DG, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

no. and superchunk suck.

― chaki, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

belle and sebastian have featured in the plot of two prime-time shows this week, on gilmore girls there was a scheme to get a korean child of fundamentalists the new belle and sebastian single covertly(legal man played in the background) and then on a show i had never seen before there was talk of the sold out belle and sebastian concert that the computer geek had tickets to. strange.

― keith, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

so fuck em.

― chaki, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hence the music press becomes a risk-free marketing tool for the record labels. And extremely boring for readers. This may apply to much of the US music press, the broadsheets and the adult-orientated monthlies, but it's not at all what the NME is about.

= stunning hilarity.

We always try to send fans of bands to review them, but if a band are stagnating or we feel they've become irrelevant then we're happy to print opinionated and sometimes vicious reviews of those bands.

= shooting himself in the foot over the charges of preconceived bias.

Superchunk vs. The Electric Soft Parade... Jesus, those two deserve each other.

― Xerxes Buttles, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And what's up with B&S getting title card credit for "Music" in Storytelling? 15 seconds of "The State I Am In" is worth that? Who's sucking who off here?

― Xerxes Buttles, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If anyone's sucking off that dreadful Todd Solondz, I sure don't want to know about it.

― Sean, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Are Belle and Sebastian George W. Bush? "

This is the important question - are they?

― Geoff, Saturday, 16 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Am I the only one sort of siding with Beaumont in that other discussion? I mean, Christ -- good reasons or not, tastemaking agenda or not, the guy's allowed to find a gig boring if he feels like it.

More and more I'm seeing holes in the tendency of musicians and label folks to ask for some sort of studious unbiased objectivity from critics. After all, what the critics write is read by the fans -- and do you think the fans have any better reasons for liking or not liking something than the critics do?

― Nitsuh, Saturday, 16 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Most hilarious comment: Let's face it Gerard, those who talk about music for a living still at the very core of it are envious of those who actually make music for a living. Uh no.

― helenfordsdale, Saturday, 16 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Most Hilarious Quote: Do the readers deserve reviewers with a slightly open mind and some acquired knowledge beyond their own petty prejudices? If so, they could do worse than to check out the most recent issue of Careless Talk Costs Lives (http://www.carelesstalkcostslives.com). Never thought I'd see the day where I'd be crediting Everett True for publishing something so entertaining, informative and good looking, but there you go. - Gerard

Ha!

― powertonevolume, Saturday, 16 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Superchunk? Two bald men fighting over a comb blah blah

― Andrew L, Saturday, 16 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nitsuh, no, you're not the only one but the sympathy I have for Mark Beaumont in this situation is tempered by many years of reading his badly written and wrong headed reviews.

― RickyT, Saturday, 16 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's sort of sad that the folks at Matador have nothing better to do than argue with "journalists." As for the title of this thread... Belle & Sebastian became irrelevant shortly after 'If You're Feeling Sinister' was released... to heck with them. Matador became irrelevant, let's see... maybe upon the release of 'Brighten the Corners' (an album where the press claim Pavement finally grew up, but in reality, Malkmus and company were merely adorning themselves with dunce caps as they ran out of steam and started worshipping their press clippings). "Type slowly..." -- uh, no thanks, dullards. Forget Belle & Sebastian. The Lilac Time beat them to the punch by roughly ten years.

― Tim DiGravina, Saturday, 16 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i remember the days of gerard matador on prodigy trying to talk up the likes of the dust devils and bettie serveert, i don't see anything wrong with a label talking up its releases even if those two bands were crap. odd that as belle and sebastian finally start recording perfectly lovely radio-friendly songs they are abandoned, their fans are likely the most rigid lot of all and how depressing it must be then for the band.

― keith, Sunday, 17 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Belle and Sebastian fans (of the sort that love that one band and one band only) are often among the most tiresome people one could possibly encounter.

As a band, they still make enjoyable (but far from classic) records, but they're pretty much irrelevant otherwise. Whatever mystery and mystique they once had is of little interest to the media anymore.

― electric sound of jim, Sunday, 17 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oooh - hark him!

― N., Wednesday, 20 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Subject: fuck belle & sebastian?

Well, I'll fuck Belle if you insist, but Sebastian just isn't my type.

― Lord Custos, Wednesday, 20 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

http://www.yesterdayland.com/popopedia/shows/saturday/sa1484.php

Lord Custos, judging by the image at this site, it looks like Belle has the assumed the position for you... and Sebastian looks quite keen to watch. Have fun, LC.

― F. Smith, Wednesday, 20 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

six years pass...

fuck belle & sebastian, fuck matador as a staff record label and as a motherfuckin crew / and if you wanna be down with matador; then fuck you too

― ethan, Thursday, February 14, 2002 8:00 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I haven't even been granted one lousy promo copy for review.

Promosexuals get ornery when they're denied!

― Andy K, Thursday, February 14, 2002 8:00 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I don't understand. What was the email this was responding to? I presume Ben Goldberg works for Matador. But what had he said to inflame this? Just 'sorry - you can't have an interview"?

I guess Matador is in the business of peddling off egos rather than music.

Errr.. aren't interviews a prime feature of 'ego over music' thinking?

― N., Thursday, February 14, 2002 8:00 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Hey cool! My email got through! ;)

― Sean Carruthers, Thursday, February 14, 2002 8:00 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Looks like someone takes their job far too seriously, and it ain't Ben Goldberg.

As if record companies like it when their artists don't do interviews and subsequently don't get as much publicity.

― hstencil, Thursday, February 14, 2002 8:00 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the old school rap thread was slightly under the link you clicked on.

― Joe "PappaWheelie" Gonzalez, Thursday, February 14, 2002 8:00 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

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― usic soulchild (J0rdan S.), Monday, 22 December 2008 02:50 (seventeen years ago)

Yes, Fuck Matador. Those poor cocksuckers have to affiliate to web sheriff because they can't recurr to the RIAA to protect their awful roster.

― Moka, Monday, 22 December 2008 23:43 (seventeen years ago)


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