Villalobos Fabric

whatever happens i hope he does do another mix cd - love family trax and taka taka are fantastic.

another dan bell mix would be nice too.

possible translations:

1) missed a deadline

2) fabric didn't want to license something-or-other

hurrah!

http://www.plusorminus.org/board/viewtopic.php?t=532

i google for more information about this every day, but am always disappointed. can it really be out next week?!

The "Minimal Explosion" one? I haven't heard it, but I pissed myself laughing when I saw it.

Does this mean trance is now cool?

I sort of love the cover, with obvious reservations.

Here's the tracklisting for people who don't click the link:

CD1 mixed by Loco Dice:

01. Bucci / Pink Elln - Listen to Eddy
02. Alexander East - Beginning Weekend
03. A. Vivanco - Las Velas No Arden
04. Nima Gorji - Out Of Orbit
05. DJ Red - Rame
06. Reiky - Fucky
07. Bearback - Funky Voodoo Mama
08. Monne Automne - Teco (Pierre Bucci & Pink Elln RMX)
09. Philip Bader - Perry Rhodan
10. Revolver Jesus - Love is not a Ritual (Dave Shokh & Wimpy RMX)
11. LoudE - Futurist (Loudefied Discoblend RMX)
12. Pig & Dan - What comes around
13. Traffic Signs - Infiltrate
14. Loco Dice - Jacuzzi Games
15. Konrad Black & Ghostman - Medusa Smile

CD2 mixed by Ricardo Villalobos:

01. Delano Smith - Detox
02. Kids in the Street - Keep on turning around (Motorcitysoul Original Dub)
03. Roma - Jeckle
04. Kenny Dope Gonzalez - Krafty
05. Sasse - Do Robots Have Soul?
06. Robag Wruhme - WortkaBULAR (Tobi Neumann's ricardosingtvocalpercussionundgretadasalphabet RMX)
07. Donnacha Costello - Bear Bounces Back
08. John Tejada - Infected
09. Luci - My Dry Valentine
10. Guido Schneider - Earth Browser
11. Rob Mellow - Critical (Bunkin' School Dub Mix)
12. Sammy Dee & Guido Schneider - Styleways
13. Digitaline - Rubicube
14. Tim Xavier - Deception de Real
15. Darth Vega - Machinery Mix
16. Woody - Put 'em up
17. Patrik - Dr. Motte's Euphorhythm
18. Mystic Bill - Take Me Back

And the good thing about stuff like e.g. "Mandarine Girl" is that it's neither minimal nor macro, but a weird intersection between the two.

Big anywhere else then??? LMAO!

Actually I reckon a turning point was Mayer's Fabric mix, that was the first vaguely-minimal big release that I noticed all of the dance record stores pushing massively.

But then I think another big factor (as I've suggested in other threads) is people like Mathew Jonson and Dominik Eulberg seemingly winning over a lot of serious techno heads. And now James Holden (plus Sasha/Digweed sets) has offered a way in for prog fans... It's like a vortex sucking in fans and artists from other genres.

Yeah it surprised me too - but what's interesting is how it isn't quite Perlon redux: all the stuff by Eulberg, Trentemoller, Holden etc. has sort of kept the micro but sucked most of the erm deep house out of the Perlon sound, replacing it with something else (prog? techno? IDM? shoegazer? it's all quite open); it's like the difference between 4-to-the-floor UK garage circa '97 and the same thing circa '02.

With Eulberg I think a lot of that slight electro edge is in the toughness to the beats - listen to the remixes of "Mean boy" or "Cosmic Sandwich" and there's a really strident clattery briskness to the drums, very little disco "swing" for all that they're often exquisitely programmed. I think that's a very post-Tiefschwarz thing maybe - the Tiefschwarz remixes often have that same constipated-in-a-good-way feel to them. Maybe that's why I've heard people round here say that Tiefschwarz have a really bashy rock feel to them, not really house at all.

x-post perhaps yeah! I've never tried ketamine.

I also wonder if this is the same mix that was prepared for the Fabric? I haven't heard most of the tracks, so am looking forward to listening.

And yeah - he looks like a Sith Lord in that photo, it's disturbing.

As for this mix:

06. Robag Wruhme - WortkaBULAR (Tobi Neumann's ricardosingtvocalpercussionundgretadasalphabet RMX)

well...

I mean I do think it's really good, in that it's different, but there's a kind of irksome tendency in electrohouse for people to go overboard with the chopping and splicing, which sounds good in actual minimal stuff I think like Jay Haze or Guido Schneider or Bearback but when it's the more techy acid stuff it often just makes me think "yeah get on with it". Basically that they lose the groove in favour of yet another "ooooooah......*three non inter-related snare drums* and that psyche psyche psyche vocal sample from Booka Shade/Wighnomy Brothers muffled pig snort/Horse falling down the stairs"!

Of course the worst culprits for this are all these English guys like Switch etc etc etc, who wants to hear awful UK funky house which sounds like the record deck is vomiting for the duration. It's such a fucking basic caveman level of "innovation" or style, people buying that stuff and thinking "this is fucking crazy!!!". I do worry a bit about that factor with Trentemoller too.

Or if not with him personally, with the glut of really bad minimal which is sure to emerge!

I guess it's not "swing" that's totally absent either, sometimes I think there is just nothing there, as I hinted at above. Cos while Black Strobe or Tiefschwarz certainly don't have any swing to them, they definitely make people want to dance, very easily.

I am not closing the door on minimal or anything, I like lots of it well enough I just wonder about some of the "big" records, they are indeed good, but they are so fucking technical.

Mmm, I reckon that was a sort of turning point for the blogosphere/ whole, well, discours (after all we like to have objects as turning-points...but yeah Jonson and Eulberg coming from that electro-bobbins angle are probably important in that respect. Eulberg is very fast becoming the DJ here.) After Alcachofa Villalobos as a DJ suddenly was everywhere, started word-of-mouth and all of a sudden DJ Rush has become the most requested DJ for big festivals (unthinkable, a couple of years ago.)

Btw. The thing I really dislike for some reason is this holier-than-thou attitude towards Villalobos supposed drugproblem (esp since most of his audience on any given night is fucked-up.) Wonder if this is a difference between an American-European or trainspotter - raver attitude.

he looks like a Sith Lord in that photo, it's disturbing.

That's true though. :)

When I saw him DJ a few weeks ago, you could notice he is searching for connections, played one of those very slow acid tracks from Plastikman's Music, that gorgeous KLF 'What Time Is Love?' ambient mix from '89 or '90? Those were identifiable, at times it sounded like, I dunno, vapourised Kraftwerk or something beyond music almost.

has anyone heard this? i found a 2 min clip on the label's website and it sounded awesome.

Ronan I should direct you to that "Mean Boy" remix as well. I honestly think it's one of the most, perhaps the most compelling groove I've heard all year. And surprisingly simple too.

Tobi Neumann's psyche-minimalism bandwagoneering is really paying off - his remix of 2Raumwohnung's "Meloncholish Schoen" is great too.

It's different to, say, Trentemoller's recent stuff or Robag Wruhme, where the climaxes if they do happen seem almost accidental or unexpected.

um - akufen fans?a

I'm sorry, Ronan, I'm a total sucker for this!

btw that minimal explosion cd was not bad, on mixmag. but i read mixmag, and there wasnt a single word that was of interest. literally. so the cd really cost me £3.85(!). dont think it was worth 3.85.

mixma\g rated the eulberg mix of dj hell number four in this months biggest tunes or som,ething like that.

listened last night(sober), some great stuff, some stuff that struck me as willfully plain.

Heard it last night (drunk) - sorted!

Got it. Initial impressions: Great! Vintage Ricardo methinks. The inane babbling of that woman in the background could start to grate however...

that's really the only track that i have a desire to skip

me too, the rest is really excellent on first impression.

i like 4 wheel drive a lot, "a shining piece of skin"

sounds fuckloads better on CD this does...

are these all original productions? the tracklist doesnt say shit

it doesn't?
http://www.fabriclondon.com/label/release.php?item=fab36/ric
still waiting for my order to arrive... though i have heard "4 wheel drive" (like it)

are these all original productions?

yes

Yes they are cutty.

"four wheel drive" is cool. the completely psycho one with samples of koto drumming is amazing. nothing else really stood out much on first listen. the whole mix seems to act as a massive build up to the final track “1º encuentro latinoamericano de la soledad” which we've all heard by now. need to hear it on head phones - i expect it to fully open up as autumn properly kicks in.

Agreed with above. I feel like this needs to sink in for a bit because a lot of it seemed rather plain on the surface.

yeah it's a pity someone swiped a cd-r of ecunentro so long before the mix. spoils the ending a bit for me.

i love the japanese drumming track. and it's fantastic in the club, huge crowd response. such a great groove. and the yabbering slips into the background when the bassline is as loud as it's supposed to be...

oh, and i think the whole mix is amazing. the tracks leading up to 4 wheel drive -- perfect, perfect build.

yeah, this mix is really awesome. some of the vocals are very very strange, but somehow the strangeness draws me back.

Can Phillip rename his Pitchfork column "This Month in Villalobos"?

Regardless, I'm looking forward to picking this up...

"ihouse music"????

that's a good idea! except i only write about him every OTHER month. hm, then again i wouldn't mind taking a month off....

did i write "ihouse music"? (if i did, it's fixed now.) shit, meant to say IHOP music.... mmmmm, mapley.

think what I meant to say upthread is that iPods fucking SUCK at bass reproduction for this kind of stuff... and I missed that whole subtle warm, warpy b-line section running through Organic Tranceplant/Prevorent/Fumiyandric 2 when I grabbed this (the DAY before buying it ^_^) that bridges the gap so nicely between the completely -mental- mid section and the re-building up to the whoa! ending

i make excellent minimal pancakes

quiet thread. are people underwhelmed (excluding/outside of the high points) perhaps? I think I am a bit, not by much, but it still feels like a qualified success, as good as I was expecting, but not a huge amount more.

i am still digesting, but i think it's great. my initial listen prompted several paragraphs of hyperbolic crap.

feels like a qualified success, as good as I was expecting, but not a huge amount more.

that sounds about right. it always feels a bit short - several of the tracks could easily be 2 or 3 times longer, i think. i wish that whoever swiped ecunentro in advance would make the whole set it came from available...

I don’t like it. I haven’t given him much of a chance since the last releases I enjoyed were “What You Say ...” and “Black Conga” (though admittedly I only dug this because he swiped the melody from Closer Musik’s ‘Giganten’) but I did give ‘Achso’ a listen and that too felt flat and uninspired.

Berlin needs to start over. As well as the cities that rely on it (i.e. New York, Detroit, and Barcelona).

it definitely took a few listens to really get into it--OTM whoever said its a perfect build up to 4 wheel drive, and again to Primer Encuentro I'd say--mainly b/c it didn't jump out at me like, say, his Essential mix for Mary Anne Hobbs; then again that was a mix of others' tracks....

The inane babbling of that woman in the background could start to grate however...

I feared that going into the track for the first time, but it's not grating anymore after about 2 minutes, and not at all on the next listen. It's just a sound, doesn't make any sense, and the drums rule over the track, anyway.

Is the woman Annie Anxiety? Totally wild guess.

Mr. Goodman: I'm curious to hear what house/techno you've been enjoying lately, since Berlin's sound is so dominant right now. I've mostly been listening to minimal and stuff related to it, so I'm eager for something different.

While I'm sitting here, headphones firmly in place, slammed busy at work and hopped up on coffee and fun medication, this record is climbing steadily in my estimation. And it did not start at the bottom.

is this even out in the US yet?

Nope. Comes out on October 23. (My birthday!)

Yeah, I like it. Sounds good in the car, "refreshing".

I need better headphones at work.

you need proper speakers to enjoy it, otherwise half of it sounds like someone rustling a plastic bag.

fo sho^

you need proper speakers or half of it sounds like herbert?

yup...i finally splashed out on some decent hi-fi separates recently. using it, this mix is finally beginning to make a bit of sense.

all those tiny villalobos sound fragments are just lost on a muddy sounding system.

Farenzer House! Oh man, when that bass-line kicks in! This is like the best thing ever!

you need proper speakers cuz it's like a jacuzzi of sound

spot on description, jacuzzi of sound.

Ugh, I have shitty, oh so shitty speakers.

Headphones

Farenzer House! Oh man, when that bass-line kicks in! This is like the best thing ever!

-- I know, right?, Saturday, 29 September 2007 14:18 (2 days ago)

yyyeeeaaaahhh

on headphones the first two tracks sound like he's poking holes in your ears.

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I had not noticed that. They crackle in the loveliest way.

wait i mean that in a good way.

Has anyone heard the radio mix that accompanies his Fabric mix? These 'radio mixes' are used as promotional tools right?

I've seen it on Soulseek (about 1hr long i think) but haven't downloaded yet.

The Akufen equivalent from a couple of years back was very nice.

anyone know who or what is sampled on wont you tell me??