why do rock critics and rock fans call anything to do with dance music 'disco'???

in other words who cares (besides rockcrits)about the name game?

now get your butt out on the floor and BOOGIE DOWN!

i dont expect rockers to know this though, as they dont really approve of dancing, or well, not to anything other than rock (snicker snicker) anyway. they dont seem to approve of dancing in general as its frivilous though so never mind

has anybody actually ever said this, anywhere, or is it just something you like to imagine?

and if you want to argue w/real-life rock critics about the nomenclature, what is and isn't "disco" just stick around...

Hahahaha! Yeah, we don't even call it disco anymore. We just call it pre-house.

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Probably because he's usually referring to songs from the disco genre, duh. I haven't ever seen him refer to Kompakt or DJ Teebee (or whatever) as disco because, I think, he never listens to that. I'm sure the man is aware of genre distinctions. He may not be Simon Reynolds who knows the minute subgenres in Grime, but he's still not as dumb as... uh you tell me.

newsflash people, disco was over 25 years ago.

Thanks for telling me! Oh I have been waiting for about five yrs to find out but I was too shy to ask.

Next you'll tell me people dance on their own instead of in line.

Hey, could you also tell me what this mysterious E is?

But anyhow, "Disco" is a lazy (but convenient) catchall term amongst those of us old enuff to recall when disco music was a going concern, and too old/bored to bother to investigate the minutiae of techno or ambient or house or garage or toolshed or whatever the hell it's called now. It all leads back to disco anyways. And everything labeled "disco" back then sounded different anyways. "Funkytown", "Night Fever", "I Feel Love", "MFSB" - none of 'em sounded at all alike and had nothing in common, aside from being great DANCE music.

I don't refer to nightclubs as "discos" myself, but I'd be happy if you explained the crucial difference between 'em.

And finally, it's not "rock", it's pop.

nope. he's talking about leanne rhimes and the macarena.

I second this emotion! Although it was fun while it lasted! And I'm glad we didn't scare Dan away forever!

chuck doesn't really get anything I've ever said about disco. For chrissakes I throw a party called ALLDISCO where I play a huge variety of disco. However most of it is from the 70s and early 80s and most of it most people would recognize as disco, even when and if I stretch the bounds of that. Chuck's argument in the past was that most of america didn't think disco implied leisure suits and disco balls and john travolta through the 80s, 90s and still.

anyway, here's what I played at the first few alldisco parties, and if chuck showed up expecting the macarena, he'd have been very dissapointed.

dr. buzzard's original savanah band - sunshower
peter brown - burning love breakdown
kasso - walkman
tantra - a place called tarot (disconet mix)
queen samantha - take a chance
gino soccio - hold tight
the 202 machine - get up (rock your body)
celestial choir - stand on the word (larry levan mix)
atmosfear - dancing in outer space
dance reaction - disco train
space - carry on, turn me on

flying lizards - sex machine
cori josias - taking it straight
chilly - for your love
erotic drum band - pop pop shoo wah
giorgio moroder - night drive
evelyn thomas - high energy
lipps inc - funkytown
arpeggio - love & desire
donna summer - i feel love (patrick cowley megamix)
john ferrara - wuthering heights break
sylvester - mighty real
france joli - come to me

Chic-Good Times
Tasha Thomas-Shoot Me (With Your Love)
First Choice-Dr. Love
Trussel-Love Injection
Labelle-Lady Marmalade
Michelle Freeman-Nice and Slow
T-Connection-Saturday Night
Ecstasy, Passion and Pain-Touch and Go (edit)
Don Armando's 2nd Ave Rhumba Band-Deputy of Love
Roy Ayres-Running Away
Kongas-Give Me Some Loving
El Coco-Cocomotion
Taana Gardner-Work that Body
City Limits-In the Village (Space Bass edit)
Crown Heights Affair-Dreaming a Dream (Goes Dancing)
The New Marketts-Song from M*A*S*H (Disco)
Bohannon-Lets Start a Dance (Special Remix)
First Choice-Let No Man Put Asunder

Eye to Eye - The Deep
Kasso - Key West
Fockewulf 190 - Gitano
The Flash Back Band - Flash
Don Ray - My Desire
Bruce Johnston - Pipeline
Funkapolitan - If Only
Modern Romance - Can You Move (American Mix)
My Mine - Hypnotic tango
Amin Peck - Girls on Me
Tantra - Ma-Cum-Ba
Giorgio Moroder - Evolution (edit)
Easy Going - Fear
Donna Summer - We Can Make It/Try Me, I Know We Can Make It

Chemise-She Can't Love You
Kasso-Walkman
Don Ray-Body and Soul
Liquid Liquid-Scraper
Vortex-Black Box Disco
Konk-Konk Party
Celestial Choir-Stand on the Word
Bruce Johnston-Pipeline
Common Sense-Voices Inside My Head
Shriekback-My Spine(is the Bassline)
Coati Mundi-Que Pasa/Me No Popi
Frankie Valli-Grease is the Word
traks-Long Train Running
Cafe-She's Not a Disco Lady
Hi-Voltage-Let's Get Horny
Manu Dibango-Soul Makossa
Trussell-Love Injection
The Jacksons-Shake Your Body Down to the Ground
Queen-Another One Bites the Dust
Slingshot-Do it Again/Billie Jean
De La Soul-A Roller Skating Jam Called "Saturdays"
Instant Funk-I Got My Mind Made Up

and Chuck, I classify things by how they sound, and disco means more to me then just anything that goes boom-tsick, boom-tsick.

Indie-Dance / Punk-Funk - What Went Wrong The First Time?

Ha ha this is from the '80s, and it is totally new wave! Nobody would call it disco! Except me, maybe! (It is also great.) (And that is an incredible set list. But okay, if Dan realizes disco wasn't all just one thing, why doesn't he think later music that sounds like all those different things is disco? I guess because other people say it's not. Even if it sounds like it is. But again, we have had this argument too often. I classify music by how it sounds. Dan classifies music by what other people call it. Both methods may well be valid.)

So OK Dan thinks he classifies music by how it sounds, too. And he is welcome to that opinion. Obviously we were born with different ears.

Anyway, anybody really interested in this goofy old argument should read those wonderful threads from yesteryear; they are hilarious.

My point, and the argument is pretty much as chuck states it, but to clarify, in the 80s even when disco still sounded like disco, people were calling it something else. So calling it disco doesn't really help anyone. If you're playing Joe Smooth, sure you can play it in a disco set, but if you want people to know what you're playing...you call it House Music.

Ha ha, I would be very disappointed at that, too....they only had like two good songs! (unless you played their instrumental b-sides "Machine Sex" and "Money B," both of which are actually quite good, and the latter of which features David Cunningham or whatever his name is throwing plastic toys at a piano if I remember right.)

I don't own these anymore! Guess I will have to start hunting dollar bins again...unless somebody reissues them (hint hint)

The Rhino 80's Boxed-Set You Will Never Ever See In A Million Years

The first is basically "recorded music played at a discotheque" -- Peter Shapiro's Turn the Beat Around goes into all the stuff that was popular in the early 70s at discos... Barrabas, Black Sabbath, J. Geils Band, etc.

The second is a style of music that dominated New York discos (hell, world discos) in the late 70s, and basically is associated with the term now.

However, must say I haven't encountered these evil rock fans calling everything "disco"... but when I find them, boy, it's just going to be murder.

In that case, so is the 12-inch vinyl Oneida single I just got in the mail today, yay!!

http://www.igetrvng.com/shop_mx4.html

and revive that Renegade Soundwave thread to follow up!

Hope you enjoy the CD. I am shameless in my self-promotion, but that's only because I want people's lives to be better, and I can help.

absolutely OTM.

(And DJ Koze even played "Across 100th Street," which was truly a holy garage moment, even if it's not actually garage.)

i would say, yes, kompakt ISN'T dance music. it is electronic synthesizer rock that pays lip service to a 4/4 beat.

also, it's pretty crappy as far as "dance music" goes (ie, for actually dancing to).

the new trend of the 00s = IDM

aka IMAGINARY DANCE MUSIC, beloved of all my friends who won't go out and support a local club night (unless it features a dj from germany) but all the time complain about wanting to live somewhere where dance music is "happening" (ie berlin) and where there are mega-raves packing in 10,000 people where all they play is basic channel and dial.

devil fingers straight back at'cha, vahid. I agree with what you're saying except for the unnecessary Kompakt skitting.

the warmup dj who played m5 / carl craig's "throw" / m7 back-to-back got a bigger response, though =(