why dont black people really like any music other than black music?

Why is your question not directed AT black people? would we not be the best source of the information you're looking for?

btw, I know this thread is bullshit but I'm just humouring you.

I'm black, I grew up among many black people, and I'm the only one I know who listened to "white" music and was often ridiculed for it(but in a cheeky way, nothing hostile).

this notion that all white people are just SO eclectic and love ALL black music is bollocks anyway.

they're only joking because this thread has been done a million times.

Umm but umm seriously Lovelace I don't think you're right about that at all -- my experience has always been that black people like plenty of white artists. Some form of stereotyping just happens to result in this being totally underdiscussed, so that white people freak out when they learn that e.g. "omigod black people like Phil Collins??? but I thought they only liked rap and stuff."

i am uncomfortable with the idea that this is not up for levelheaded discussion. though i think the answer seems somewhat obvious... and given that people seem to think the original poster was trolling, i guess i'll withhold til people start talking.

also, don't know whether (if he was trolling) it's not unreasonable to forget/take for granted how many black people might actually read ilm.

i'm not racist in the slightest, so if anybody does respond, please forgo kneejerks.

yeah and you think white people listening to hip hop in the 80s/early 90s didnt get ridiculed for it either? for 'trying to be black' etc etc?

thats what everyone says.

okok:
who cares if that's what every/anyone says? i'm secure in that statement. i am as likely to unfortunately stereotype some people in mostly threatening instances where, i'm, say, 'round crenshaw at 3:30 in the morning on foot... but come on... if it wasn't one thing i was afraid of, i'd probably find monsters to be afraid of in the white suburbs, or a psycho (you know, because there's no black serial killers {really, there's not, is there?]).

Fuck, I'm surprised that anyone likes Phil Collins!

is it that simple? i dont think this is about geography. its not like the black community in london listens to say, (a british genre like) grime over hip hop and dancehall. if that was the case it would be selling a lot more!

what is REAL black culture? would would black culture look like/sound like/etc without the tarnish, firstworld?

Here's the thing. Really seriously. When people say stuff like in this thread title it's basically just a vicious circle of assumptions -- black people "only" listen to e.g. hip-hop if your idea of "authentic blackness" involves traits like listening to hip-hop. Weird black evangelicals who listen to cheesy white-Christian music don't count because they're "exceptions" to this stupid concept of "actual-blackness," and black kids who like indie don't count for the same reason, and 10-year-old middle-class black girls who really like Hillary Duff don't count for the same reason, and so you whittle down to your already-existing idea of what the core of blackness is, and then you look at it like an idiot and say "Hey, how come black people all conform to the exact stereotypes I use to decide what black people are like?"

White people pushing derivativeness on the blacks again! Just like crack in the ghettos!

fresh prince -- "real".
lil jon -- real.
t.i. -- rilly real.
missy -- real
david banner -- Real.
mike jones -- “real”
eminem -- real
2pac -- 4real
biggie -- "Real."

get it?

pionefox, who knows how i will evolve. i'm looking fwd to it though!

lex it seems as if you like fewer genres of music now than you did in the past. is there some sort of assurance you can give to your legion of fans out there that this is not the case?

This argument is fucking stupid because if there was one defining argument to early 00s ILM (and that's very debatable) it was "it's okay to be a dilettante".

It's a bit like when commentators on the left and right respectively describe Gordon Brown as a free-market loon and a quasi-Soviet control freak.

The Rapture album that was straight-up NYC indie kid bait with no real sense of joy or ugliness to it wasn't all that great (ie the one with the pink cover); I liked it at first but got very tired of it very quickly.

This argument is fucking stupid because if there was one defining argument to early 00s ILM (and that's very debatable) it was "it's okay to be a dilettante".

OTM, lock thread.

also the narcissism of balancing the scales vs tipping them the other way (xposts)

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This argument is fucking stupid because if there was one defining argument to early 00s ILM (and that's very debatable) it was "it's okay to be a dilettante".

oh i know it's just that what most people meant by dilettante is "pay attention to all pfork-approved big indie releases, maybe notice r&b singles if they're inescapable"

But, then, paying attention to the big indie releases back then was mostly about being against them. Plus indie was probably less popular in the late 90s/early 00s than it has been ever before (after the term occured in the mid 80s at least) or since. So what was the point, really?

1992

Why am I even bothering?

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So what was is the point, really?

Matt DC - Geir cannot and will not comment on his personal life anymore than he can use your name.

or ask the opinion of someone else

or convince them that he is right

etc.

Is it a language barrier thing? Cos English is his second language, right? Cos his English doesn't seem at all bad or poor or weak. So is it just a mental deficiency? Really pronounced autism or something? Inability to accept objects outside of clearly delineated favourite objects, and inability to address, or even seemingly understand, other people as individuals / human beings.

wait, who are we talking about now?

Gordon Brown?

Really pronounced autism or something?
Geez, I had never thought of that, but it makes sense. I think you may be on to something.

stay classy, ilx

You had honestly never thought of that?

i have honestly never attempted to conduct a completely unfounded, uninformed medical diagnosis of someone over the internet and then post that diagnosis to a public forum, no

unless calling someone a douche counts

n/a has prostatitis

This thread started low and is going downhill...

The entire ILM was started as a "LOL, people who listen to white music are stupid and they should listen to black music (and manufactured white kidpop) instead".

― Geir Hongro, Monday, October 20, 2008 6:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

It's true, all those alt.music.alternative posts were just cross posts from alt.music.blackpplmusic.

You're telling me that you'd never even considered Geir's deportment on here as abnormal?

C'mon, he's some kid of 49 who never goes anywhere, and listens to music all the time in his room. Sometimes he's not on ILM.

probably ILM's biggest ever loony, and that's saying something

OK, that's enough now

Geir's never disrupted a funeral or tried to con the families of 9/11 survivors out of money, so he's not the "biggest" loony.

dom do you think geir is more or less crazy than your average girlfriend

Less, obviously.

Also I'm pretty sure Geir exists and his pics are real.

never disrupted a funeral or tried to con the families of 9/11 survivors out of mone

at least these things only happened one time, not every day for years and years

Who disrupted a funeral / tried to con the families of 9/11 survivors out of money?

You're telling me that you'd never even considered Geir's deportment on here as abnormal?
Oh, absolutely. But I always attributed it to a combination of a language barrier and rabid solipsism.

Who disrupted a funeral / tried to con the families of 9/11 survivors out of money?

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:13 (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Let's not.

Seriously, let's not.

Ah, history.... (xpost yeah, let's not)

Who disrupted a funeral / tried to con the families of 9/11 survivors out of money?

i'm amazed these subjects weren't discussed at length at the rocktimists/lbzc summit

Also he isn't a Bill Deedes impersonator.

I've never heard of those subjects before.

I'm all at sea

i'm amazed these subjects weren't discussed at length at the rocktimists/lbzc summit

― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:15 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

We mainly talk about the 90s when we meet up, else Enrique gets a little agitated.

"What's 9/11?" being his main point re; current affairs. He can remember the death of Diana, though.

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RIP BIG FELLA

Are we done here?

Think we were done here round about post 5?

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― Trayce, Saturday, June 2, 2007 10:34 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Trayce: That pic goes straight into my Facebook images archive. Great ;)

― Geir Hongro, Sunday, June 3, 2007 12:42 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink