MISS KITTIN@THE NERVE CENTRE, DERRY, NORTHERN IRELAND. We would rather be sitting at this stage reminiscing about a great night but instead we feel compelled to set the record straight about the actions of Miss Kittin at our event on Friday night past. After years of negotiations, we finally secured a date for Miss Kittin to play at our clubnight. It was a night we were really looking forward to enjoying ourselves but due to the actions of Miss Kittin, we found this impossible. In all our time of promoting parties, we feel we have never been treated so badly by a visiting artist.
The venue we had chosen to put Miss Kittin on was The Nerve Centre where we have put on a variety of DJ’s and live acts including Laurent Garnier, Dave Clarke, X-Press 2, Mylo, 2020 Soundsystem, Jon Carter, Layo & Bushwacka, Justin Robertson, Slam, Paul Daley, Tom Middleton, Erol Alkan, Andrew Weatherall, Lee Burridge, Mr C, David Holmes, DJ Format & MC Abdominal, Radioactive Man, Fingathing, Silicone Soul, Umek, Craig Richards, James Zabiela, Billy Nasty, Jazzanova, James Lavelle, Scratch Perverts, DJ Craze, The Psychonauts, Si Begg. The Nerve Centre has also hosted some of the biggest names in rock music including The Thrills, The Undertones, Ian Brown, The Zutons, Embrace, Gomez, David Gray, Sinead O’Connor, The Doves.
Miss Kittin was picked up at Belfast Airport by taxi which transported her to The Tower Hotel in Derry where we had booked her the most expensive suite as well as an additional room for her manager. On meeting Miss Kittin and her manager outside the hotel and welcoming them to our city, we were greeted by Miss Kittin with ‘It’s fucking freezing’ - no hello, nothing.
On returning to the hotel to bring Miss Kittin and her manager to the club, we advised Miss Kittin that the club was next door to the hotel so we would walk to the club. After walking no more than 15 metres, Miss Kittin stopped dead in her tracks and said ‘This is next door… where is the fucking club?’ We told Miss Kittin that the club was just another 30 metres away round the corner.
We then took Miss Kittin to the boardroom of The Nerve Centre where we had a large range of drinks, fruit and various snacks prepared for her. Initially refusing a drink, Caroline then said ‘How am I meant to enjoy myself tonight. It took me six fucking hours to get here and I’m fucking freezing. I could have been in New York’. Prior to booking her extremely expensive flights, we had suggested several alternative travel options to Miss Kittin that would have got her to Derry quicker. We also warned her of the regular delays that take place at Heathrow on Friday evenings. However there was no flexibility with Miss Kittin regarding flights.
Miss Kittin eventually decided to have a bottle of water but complained that she did not want the water if it was too cold as she was already ‘fucking freezing’. We then brought Miss Kittin upstairs to the venue to commence her set. We pride ourselves on providing everything artists ask for. The setup on stage was perfect, as was asked for in the contract. Both our resident DJ’s tried to introduce themselves to Miss Kittin but were greeted with a hateful ‘I don’t understand you’. After starting her set, we are informed by her manager that there was a problem. Basically, the problem was that Caroline was used to playing in bigger venues in front of larger crowds. At this stage the venue was only open an hour and there were nearly 300 people in the venue and there were people still coming in to the club.
We are then informed that Miss Kittin will play for 1 hour only and that we should have one of our DJ’s ready to take over. Informed by her manager that there was no way of changing her mind, one of our residents took over from Miss Kittin after she had played 75 minutes. At the end of the night, when paying her fee to her manager, we asked what should we say to the clubbers who had came to the club to hear Miss Kittin. He informed us that we should lie, ‘tell the people she was sick or something as she has fans and she would not want to disappoint her fans.’
These are the fans that she refused to acknowledge all night and basically refused to play for. We have always found that truth is the best policy and we are not going to change now and we don’t believe feigning illness for Miss Kittin to keep her reputation intact as a good enough reason to change this policy. Within the genres of music we promote, we find that the majority of people that we invite to play are likeminded people, sociable and polite but more importantly professional. In almost eight years of putting on parties, Miss Kittin is the outstanding exception to this rule.
We have been lucky enough to host some of the world’s top DJ’s and producers over the years who always retain a sense of honesty and humility. Derry may not be as cosmopolitan as New York, Paris or Milan but you will be hard pushed to find a more receptive or passionate crowd. Most visiting DJ’s comment on the great reaction and warmth of the people. There is no excuse or valid reason for Miss Kittin’s actions on Friday night. She was getting paid a lot of money to play records for a couple of hours. All we wanted was for her to do her job
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link
Would really put me off ever going to see her, not that I've ever been bothered with her as a DJ in any case.
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― biz, Friday, 16 September 2005 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― biz, Friday, 16 September 2005 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― pete b. (pete b.), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link
She actually sang on The Vogue by Antonelli Electr., which predated her fame in my area:
http://www.discogs.com/release/24580
But yeah, I agree, she was a one trick pony. That trick may've been needed briefly a few years ago, but her lack of talents stick out like a sore thumb today.
Even if she is producing/writing/whatever on her own album(s), the music isn't moving to me and it just comes off as trendhopping.
― PappaWheelie B.C., Friday, 16 September 2005 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― pete b. (pete b.), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Who the hell do you THINK I am? I'm the goddamn Batman! (Barima), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link
I think her entire recording output to date is mostly fantastic.
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link
Why on earth should she do all the producing herself, the producer/solo artist thing is as surely as valid a method as any other in music.
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― mooterhead, Friday, 16 September 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― mooterhead, Friday, 16 September 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Oh, please:
Club organizers book name-brand DJ.
Name-brand DJ acts like a spoiled child.
Name-brand DJ bails out and leaves club organizers hanging.
Club organizers call out name-brand DJ in a public forum, which appears to be their only recourse at this point.
Do you honestly believe that the posts would be different if it were, say, Armin Van Buuren that were behaving badly? No they fucking would not. An asshole is an asshole, regardless of gender.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― mooterhead, Friday, 16 September 2005 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― fitch, Friday, 16 September 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Where'd that come from? I didn't mean that at all. They just seem like business people - not even in the equation. If they were also coke sniffing yuppies, they probably would have thought her behavior was fabulous or cute or something.
― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link
No, not when people have come to see her and paid money for the privilege. She really doesn't have any excuses here, considering she did actually turn up and didn't offer any explanation for her attitude.
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link
OTM. Why should we even care? I guess the moral hit squad does, but I wasn't there, it's not my business.
O'so Krispie, it's because moralizing is damned annoying, and expecting everyone to 'chime in' on the basis of hearsay is damned annoying, and besides, it's just that - hearsay.
― simian (dymaxia), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― kttn (andrewmorgan), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Fuck that. She sounds like a prima donna that looks down her nose at her fans (as deluded and coked up as they may be, they don't deserve it). People that work for $12/hour have bad days, too. If they act like her, they risk getting fired.
― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Oh boo fucking hoo, my boss pays me money to come to work and I'm not always happy to do it. Show me one person who is. Shit happens, no one's perfect, everyone has a bad attitude from time to time. Even you.
― fitch, Friday, 16 September 2005 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link
Ugh, ONE incident does not a prima donna make. How about we all base our permanent judgements on YOU based on ONE of your low moments, eh?
― fitch, Friday, 16 September 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link
Maybe not, but being a smug little bitch on a message board judging people you don't personally know based on hearsay about ONE incident is pretty low.
― fitch, Friday, 16 September 2005 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link
And yet, you post on the thread.
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link
I better never see you piling on Bono in another thread. :)
― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― GR3BE, Friday, 16 September 2005 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link
But Bono has a 25-year track record of being a pampered princess!
― fitch, Friday, 16 September 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link
Ah yes you're right about that bit.
If I were to nick her comments for a lyric, I wonder if she'd sue?
― moley, Saturday, 17 September 2005 00:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 17 September 2005 00:27 (eighteen years ago) link
That's a great one to say in a Dublin accent.
― moley, Saturday, 17 September 2005 00:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 00:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 17 September 2005 02:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 17 September 2005 02:11 (eighteen years ago) link
personally, i think there is NO excuse for acting like an asshole and ultimately she will reap what she sews. sure it's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things but i think it's good that things like this leak out and hopefully impact on people's careers. there is a certain devilish german dj whose behaviour has been a zillion times worse than this who will probably get lynched if he ever sets foot in the city i live in again.
there is a london band whose career has been pretty much destroyed by the idiotic behaviour of their lead member. being an asshole is not rock n' roll, it's just being an asshole.
hopefully the power of the internet will help rid us of some of the unpleasant characters out there. i actually thought about posting this after reading it but didn't get round to it. having had involvement with her twice along with simon 803 (see above), we put her incredibly rude behaviour down to pmt the first time. the second time i decided there was no excuse and that she's just plain rude. end result, she'll never get asked back.
hopefully the power of the internet will help rid us of some of the unpleasant characters out there.
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 17 September 2005 02:27 (eighteen years ago) link
When will Cheryl Baker LEARN?
― I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Saturday, 17 September 2005 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 17 September 2005 02:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 17 September 2005 03:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 17 September 2005 03:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― blunt (blunt), Saturday, 17 September 2005 10:05 (eighteen years ago) link
I think the club in question should invite Alejandra and Aeron instead. Sure, they'll DJ off an ironing board, and play the sound of an old man giving another old man a haircut for an hour, and only thirty people will come. But there will be 32 nice people in a room together.
― Momus (Momus), Saturday, 17 September 2005 10:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― moley, Saturday, 17 September 2005 11:19 (eighteen years ago) link
PS- Who would ever want to "touch" Miss Kittin's "bum". Gross.
― Miss Cunttin, Saturday, 17 September 2005 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Barnaby (Barnaby), Saturday, 17 September 2005 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― terry lennox. (gareth), Saturday, 17 September 2005 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― simian (dymaxia), Saturday, 17 September 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link
ALSO: GIRLS DONT KNOW HOW TO MAKE THE MUSIC
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Saturday, 17 September 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link
"It's fucking freezing"
"I could have been in New York"
― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Saturday, 17 September 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― don't be jerk, this is china (FE7), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link
moley's post is phenomenal.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― nique (nique), Sunday, 18 September 2005 00:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― moley, Sunday, 18 September 2005 00:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Sunday, 18 September 2005 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 18 September 2005 12:05 (eighteen years ago) link
in the late evening after girl has hung out with satanic dj while he attends various meetings and radio sessions he suggests they go back to his hotel to discuss the release. satanic dj goes into the bathroom and comes out in his dressing gown and tries to get 'friendly'. girl tells him she is married but he doesn't seem to care. situation gets very frightening resulting in her screaming 'no means no' and trying to get out the door which he is blocking. satanic dj starts screaming hysterically at her that he never had any intention of releasing her music and that in fact it is amateurish, unoriginal and boring and that she should get rid of her guitar and buy an 808 and a moog instead and make some 'proper' music. he then throws her out. girl is completely distraught, bewildered and angry with herself for being so naive.
girl later gets signed to another famous label. her forthcoming release for them doesn't feature a moog or an 808.
― loggged out, Sunday, 18 September 2005 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― nique (nique), Sunday, 18 September 2005 13:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 18 September 2005 13:14 (eighteen years ago) link
with miss kittin, though, apart that she was rude to someone (which is quite understandable, maybe she had her worst period, after all), the main thing is that she didn't play the time she was supposed to. the bigger name DJs sign contracts with the clubs, and unless they want stories like this be spread among the 'industry ppl' they try to fulfill all the conditions, no matter how moody they are.
as far as i can see from this story, they also had a contract with tech rider and so on. and the length of the set was most probably indicated there, as was the sum of payment.
rude as she might have been, this is not the main fault on her side. the main thing is not fulfilling the contract. and this is shit. it will not make everyone stop booking her for their events, but some ppl will definitely be warned...
― nique (nique), Sunday, 18 September 2005 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link
a place where no one cares about this person.
― cdwill, Monday, 19 September 2005 04:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:35 (eighteen years ago) link
Cut her some slack!
― LeCoq (LeCoq), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― mooterhead, Monday, 19 September 2005 12:53 (eighteen years ago) link
ho, this thread.
the martinez bass in your face mix of kittin's 'grace' is BANGING. and her batbox album ain't bad at all either. that is all.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 10:34 (fifteen years ago) link
to fill up the battery we empty all the minibarno need for pay tv i have a better film noir
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 10:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Laurent Garnier, Dave Clarke, X-Press 2, Mylo, 2020 Soundsystem, Jon Carter, Layo & Bushwacka, Justin Robertson, Slam, Paul Daley, Tom Middleton, Erol Alkan, Andrew Weatherall, Lee Burridge, Mr C, David Holmes, DJ Format & MC Abdominal, Radioactive Man, Fingathing, Silicone Soul, Umek, Craig Richards, James Zabiela, Billy Nasty, Jazzanova, James Lavelle, Scratch Perverts, DJ Craze, The Psychonauts, Si Begg.
^^^poll
― Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 10:36 (fifteen years ago) link
DAFT PUNK TEACHERS POLL
― The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Some outstanding captain save-a-ho hijinks on this thread.
― jim, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 11:52 (fifteen years ago) link
miss kittin is just awful. a total one-trick pony, only people who don't understand clubland/dancemusic (but desperately want to) buy into that stale sneery cokey act. im stunned she's still going!
who is/was this?!
― s.rose, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 12:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Take your pick
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 12:15 (fifteen years ago) link
only people who don't understand clubland/dancemusic (but desperately want to)
Pipecock II: Electric Boogaloo
― The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 12:31 (fifteen years ago) link
I may or may not "understand dance music" but I enjoyed this mix. The spoken bits do get a bit wearing though.
― Neil S, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 12:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Live At Sonar is pretty good as I recall and the bit on it where she goes "I beat I beat I beat I beat I can't say this forever" makes me forgive a lot of whatever her transgresisons are
― The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 12:58 (fifteen years ago) link
She played in Seattle last month, and not once did she say it was fucking freezing.
― Simmer 1 Tire Tread or Dead Crow for 15 minutes (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Wet though? Terrible wet, so it is!
― Neil S, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link
i desperately want to understand clubbing!!!
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41428000/jpg/_41428313_kay_203bodyap.jpg
― jim, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link