when did ILM get taken over by MORONS?

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was it when i showed up?

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 September 2005 01:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Fall 2000

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Saturday, 17 September 2005 01:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Taken over?

― pr00de, where's my car? (pr00de), Saturday, 17 September 2005 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link

the revolution has yet to occur

― gear (gear), Saturday, 17 September 2005 01:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I Love Morons

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 17 September 2005 01:40 (eighteen years ago) link

dickheads and morons all day

― sugarpants: like throwing gold at platinum. (sugarpants), Saturday, 17 September 2005 01:41 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.funnypics.cc/uploads/1078519803.jpg

― Jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, 17 September 2005 02:18 (eighteen years ago) link

the revolution will not be televised.
m.

― msp (mspa), Saturday, 17 September 2005 04:39 (eighteen years ago) link

i REALLY CARE HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU HAVE HAD SEX WITH, ILM

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 September 2005 05:03 (eighteen years ago) link

ile, in constrast, has always been dominated my morons

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 September 2005 05:05 (eighteen years ago) link

ILM taught me to hate music.

― sux2bu (Adrian Langston), Saturday, 17 September 2005 05:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I hear that. I now have a crew of paunchy music critics in plastic horn-rimmed glasses and too-tight teeshirts slouched on a couch in a rec room of my mind snorting "haha lame" whenever I hear a song and think I like it. Not their problem, "obv," but it's why I don't look at it anymore.

― pr00de, where's my car? (pr00de), Saturday, 17 September 2005 05:24 (eighteen years ago) link

FO REALS

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 September 2005 05:24 (eighteen years ago) link

ILM listmaking = new levels of stupidity

every dance music list ever = "i haven't actually HEARD any of the records anybody else is talking about, but let me just big up the CD i bought this afternoon, because my sense of personal worth is so low, i'm not sure if i like it or not - tim? phil? do i like this?"

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 September 2005 05:26 (eighteen years ago) link

phil?

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 17 September 2005 05:41 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't get why ilm upsets people so much!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 September 2005 05:42 (eighteen years ago) link

lists, categories, rankings...it means nothing to me. all that xgau don't bother with anything below a b+ stuff. i couldn't be arsed. actually i can't DO it. this is better than that. i'm better than you.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 17 September 2005 05:53 (eighteen years ago) link

trolling is which stage of ILX addiction? after denial, before acceptance?

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I still really wish that one guy wasn't wearing a Cardinals shirt.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:13 (eighteen years ago) link

trolls never seem to accept anything

one thing I do like about ILM: on the most interesting artists, consensus is _rare_, everyone has a different favorite album, & everyone's convinced about their take... which is how it should be. but in the past, there'd be only a handful of comprehensive written overviews and you'd be stuck there thinking 'does EVERYONE think that's their best album?' and no, nope, it turns out that's actually only Greil's or John Schaeffer's or Kyle Gann's or who-the-fuck-ever's opinion. and this is really good, reassuring information to know.

― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:15 (eighteen years ago) link

not to say there aren't a handful of regular careerist posters I wouldn't love to punch in the face

― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:16 (eighteen years ago) link

i want to punch myself in the face wuite often. usually right after seeing what i've posted.

*PUNCH*

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:28 (eighteen years ago) link

no way man, you're one of the few trustworthy ones

― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:30 (eighteen years ago) link

the only reason you listen to music is because you like it

― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:33 (eighteen years ago) link

]:-D

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:34 (eighteen years ago) link

hails

― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 06:34 (eighteen years ago) link

man fuck those guys

― gear (gear), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:01 (eighteen years ago) link

i'd rather have pompous rock critics than "omg i heard a song on the radio and i didn't hate it AM I CRAZEE IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH ME?!?!?!?!?!?!?!"

― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:07 (eighteen years ago) link

or "ULTIMATE BATTLES: SOME OVERPLAYED DADROCK BAND VS SOME OTHER OVERPLAYED DADROCK BAND"

dave q just did this with so much more finesse!

― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:11 (eighteen years ago) link

SPRINGSTEEN VS LIONEL RICHIE FITE

― gear (gear), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:17 (eighteen years ago) link

now we're talkin

― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:21 (eighteen years ago) link

i can't fuckin decide. do i have to? i mean - lionel - dancing on the fucking ceiling vs bruce - wrap yer hands round these velvet rims. why do i have to anyway? are you gonna say something enlightening about this? is that the point? go on then.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:29 (eighteen years ago) link

dancing: on the ceiling vs in the dark

― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:42 (eighteen years ago) link

dancing on the ceiling is a superhero feat, and therefore kick-ass.

dancing in the dark presumably means you're either dancing in a dark room by yourself, or dancing whilst blind, or both. fucking sad. obviously dancing on the ceiling wins.

― gear (gear), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:47 (eighteen years ago) link

y'know, not clicking on threads you know aren't gonna be worth it actually expends less energy than clicking on them

― lemin (lemin), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:55 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www2.imm.dtu.dk/~pch/Projekter/Shock/main/img234.gif

well i'll be damned, he's right

― gear (gear), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:01 (eighteen years ago) link

i always thought "dancing in the dark" was a euphemism for "fucking."

― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:06 (eighteen years ago) link

no no: boy george understands why the boss dances in the dark

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I still really wish that one guy wasn't wearing a Cardinals shirt.
Cardinal Mor4n!

― k/l (Ken L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:10 (eighteen years ago) link

random google morons who get all uppity because someone is hating on their 12th favourite indie rock band and list threads are the things that annoy me, moron-wise. I kind of blame gier for the list thread thing, though no doubt it was someone else who kicked that one off. I think there's the same amount of good stuff there as there always was, but the s/n ratio has got a lot worse recently.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:20 (eighteen years ago) link

i've said it before and i'll say it again, ilm has made me way way listy. i never really cared about lists before. i wasn't much of a list-maker in that analobsessive rockcritiky way. i never thought about my top ten favorite boogie woogie artists or whatever. when in rome, i suppose...

i hate ilm too sometimes. mostly cuz i spend too much time on it. that brings out some nice self-loathing. but every time i see another message board/forum on the web devoted to music in some way i thank my lucky stars that i don't have to deal with the other morans out there in the real world! i am used to ilx morans.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 September 2005 08:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I think your hunch / theory has some truth to it. (i.e. that 'theory' is effectively a language game in which knowing the rules, and participating in the conversation is central, and the actual names / terms in circulation could be switched for something else -- e.g. football / soccer without much changing, except that 'theory' talkers maybe share some kind of sense that what they're talking about is 'important' in a different way from the way football talk is 'important' [left unexplained here: important TO someone; important to the future of the universe; etc. different conversations will have different answers, clearly, which is why people take part in them, maybe, and could we explore the differences starting from this question?]) I don't think it's the whole truth, but I would have to think a bit before I could put my finger on what my reserveations are...

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 17 September 2005 11:24 (eighteen years ago) link

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/archive.php?board=2&date=28%2F8%2F2000

― k/l (Ken L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't really like lists myself, whether it's ten best whatevers or ilm's top whatevers of the noughties poll... but there's no reason to get angry about it!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link

mark i wanted to ask you if you've seen "the aristocrats" and what you thought of it. (i haven't)

ILX isn't like one joke told 100 ways, it's 100 jokes told in one boring way.

n million threads about dance/reggae/rap w/ people endlessly restating a few other people's views, w/o generally even thinking about it or bothering to know the music.

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link

it's like ILX has spawned this whole monstrous group of people who are more comfortable talking about things like "movements" "styles" and "genres" than they are talking about a fucking CD or song or artist or something.

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

vent some of this anger on our poor, malingering blog, duder

― strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

anyway, the answer is august 2001

― strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 17 September 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I've never understood the hate directed at list threads. They're just fun time-wasters that don't need to be taken seriously. Top 100 songs with baby talk in the chorus? Why not? They're like the silly games you'd play in the car as a kid when you'd be on a long drive, except now you're grown up and it's the internet.

I'm a list freak but obv. lists != informed discussion.

n million threads about dance/reggae/rap w/ people endlessly restating a few other people's views, w/o generally even thinking about it or bothering to know the music.

This is why I generally avoid the big clusterfuck threads and prefer the smaller threads where ten people shoot the shit about Wolfgang Voigt.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 17 September 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

This predates ILX though, no? I mean, what about literary critics who want to talk about "textuality" or "authorship" or whatever instead of actual specific books?

― pr00de, where's my car? (pr00de), Saturday, 17 September 2005 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link

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Dear shirtless guido: shiny silver jogging shorts =/= metal

― nate p. (natepatrin), Friday, 17 November 2006 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link

when did this thread get taken over by MORONS?

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Friday, 17 November 2006 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

shiny silver jogging shorts=FALSE METAL

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Saturday, 18 November 2006 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

New Question: When did the ILM Old Guard turn into KNOWLEDGE LORDING DOUCHES instead of people willing to teach?

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Saturday, 18 November 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I probably shouldn't have said that. I'm drunk.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Saturday, 18 November 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Lord Knowledge and the Knights of the Douche Table

― M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 18 November 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

ILM "old guard": keepin it fresh since 2002

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Saturday, 18 November 2006 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I meant nu-old guard, not old-old guard, obvs

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Saturday, 18 November 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

who knew?

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Saturday, 18 November 2006 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6427/quakercn6.jpg

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Saturday, 18 November 2006 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

MORE ON THAT AT 11:00.

― R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 18 November 2006 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

False metal guy appears to be packing heat in those shorts.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 19 November 2006 00:58 (seventeen years ago) link

MORE ON THAT AT 11:00.
-- R_S (Al__suca...), November 18th, 2006

When did ILM get taken over by local news anchors?

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

"LOCAL NEWS ANCHORS," obv.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:04 (seventeen years ago) link

trucker-hat dude just got to second base in that pic

― max (maxreax), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:20 (seventeen years ago) link

there's lots of...touching...in that second photo

― geoff (gcannon), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:22 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.shopfoodex.com/catalog/images/900_a2_2335espiral-sw2.jpg

― W i l l (common_person), Sunday, 19 November 2006 07:14 (seventeen years ago) link

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 19 November 2006 08:17 (seventeen years ago) link

WHEN DID ILM GET TAKEN OVER BY SHITTY HTML?

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 19 November 2006 08:18 (seventeen years ago) link

DEATH TO FALSE HTML.

― Dan Barramouss (jimnaseum), Sunday, 19 November 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/redexok0.gif?t=1163955347

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 19 November 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

http://cprplus.us/images/firstdefense.gif

― R_S (RSLaRue), Monday, 20 November 2006 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

relevant revive

― the light hearted poster for light hearted ilxors (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 08:40 (fourteen years ago) link

3:36 PM, 22 Dec 05 Predict The Year Grunge Makes A Comeback deleted by u saved me (i dont think so, homie)

― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:36 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^I liked this though

― the light hearted poster for light hearted ilxors (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 08:41 (fourteen years ago) link

thread is a wealth of riches but

i came close to total despair yesterday when i found my mouse hovering over the link to the "best third albums EVER!" thread

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:21 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol @ board description nominee

― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.swamirecords.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3645

― StanM, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

i wish the polls could move to their own board

― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

that i could make invisible

― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

amazing thread

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i came close to total despair yesterday when i found my mouse hovering over the link to the "best third albums EVER!" thread

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:21 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hread this twice before noticing date. yeaaaaah.

― pro bono publico (history mayne), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link

only been here but a minute but i just gotta say seeing people discuss Free Jazz, Post-Dubstep and Doom Metal right next to threads about Elvis Costello and, i don't know what else i missed, Barbara Streissand? is a bit disorienting to say the least...

― zoom, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Precisely.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't even think i'd have the heart for the kind of massacre an ilm kill-spree would result in circa 2010

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, September 17, 2005 2:44 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

now, more than ever

― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link

first against the wall tho:

The marriage of indie-rock and contemporary R&B [Started by Evan R in February 2010, last updated 59 seconds ago]

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link

lock n load

― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

i wish the polls could move to their own board

― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:31 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that i could make invisible

― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:31 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

Preferences >> Hide Polls

― goole, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link

some polls are good, some polls are bad. same with threads. and posters/posts on said poll/thread

― anita bonghit (rionat), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Polls are just threads with revives built-in.

― Mark G, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

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― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, I rarely heckle myself. But I do enjoy it. Not if its overdone, true. But I like the way it deflates the typical show dynamic a bit. My favorite example, I guess, is at the end of some bands set and before they went offstage to wait out the inevitable encore, some guy yelled "play another song you fucking faggots!" Admittedly not witty, but it made me laugh. Now that I think about it, I only really like it when there's a roomful of people all rapt over some sensitive soul up there sharing their intelligence and genius or whatever. I like seeing that deflated.

xposts

― Mister Jim, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:30 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

see I'm not saying that whoever the fuck this guy is 'represents' ILM '10 or whatever but I think it was this that pushed me over the edge

― the light hearted poster for light hearted ilxors (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i found my mouse hovering over the link to the "best third albums EVER!" thread

Got to be London Calling, right? Dig Me Out & Born To Run are also doozies.

― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

threads are just polls without the numbers.

― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

feeling rather perverse this morning and clicked on the Christina Aguilera thread... she's working with diplo and switch now! wow! where did i put that assault rifle...

― zoom, Thursday, 11 February 2010 07:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Have you checked behind that big pile of SugBans?

― Are you reelin' in the SBs? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 February 2010 08:19 (fourteen years ago) link

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h143/Aramyr/bad-dudes.jpg

― GRIZZLY! GRRR! GRRR! So Indie Entertaaaaiiiinmeeent! (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 February 2010 09:01 (fourteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

ikr

― pomenitul, Saturday, 18 January 2020 17:02 (four years ago) link

great revive

― international sword swallower, producer and creative director (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 18 January 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link

I knew I could count on you.

― pomenitul, Saturday, 18 January 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link

(With apologies to Neanderthal.)

― pomenitul, Saturday, 18 January 2020 17:04 (four years ago) link

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