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Anyone with a pov on the indiepop/hardcore band Unrest? Especially any opinions on the album Imperial f.f.r.r. (Full Frequency Range Recording)?

Lord Custos, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

a crucial influence on the transition of american indie aesthetics from B&W photocopies of skulls to colour photocopies of 70's airport lounges.

& "yes she is my skinhead girl" is a great indie pop song.

fritz, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

The few tracks I've heard have been second only to Sugar in crystallising and epitomising all that turns me off about indiepop. Don't think I've ever heard any of their hardcore material.

But dud, especially for "Isabel".

Tom, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Well, Problem #1 is equating Sugar w/ indie-pop - damn that Alan McGee! Problem #2 is thinking "Isabel" epitomizes the Unrest experience. Something tells me you'd like "Cherry Cherry" - the end bit, @ least, where all the strumming dissolves into a wonderful sea of clanging bells. And you can dance to it! Personally, I like Unrest when they get messy and difficult - the pro-forma "indie" moments (those that sound most like / trump their contemporaries) are all fine & good to some degree, but the wacky stuff (like most of _Fuck Pussy Galore_) is what really impresses me. (Or, at least, USED to, when I last listened to Unrest.)

And Ms. Bridget Cross STILL needs to get that Panax / what-have-you project off zee ground, please?

David Raposa, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

No, I hate "Cherry Cherry" even more! "Isabel" at least I mostly don't like for the title.

Tom, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Mark Robinson = among the rhythm-guitar greats. Just listened to "Make Out Club" yesterday with that big happy "how does he do it?" grin on my face. I love Unrest dearly, and think of _Imperial f.f.r.r._ as the _Another Green World_ of indie-pop. Search: the long version of "Vibe Out!" that appears on _B.P.M._

Also, Bridget Cross = minimalist bass genius.

I may even like Flin Flon better than Unrest, just on the strength of "Swift Current" and _Boo Boo_ (the first album isn't as good).

Douglas, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Just listened to "Make Out Club" yesterday with that big happy "how does he do it?" grin on my face.

He does it by listening to a lot of "What Goes On" and '89-90 Wedding Present? j/k

Unrest must haves:

  • Imperial f.f.r.r - UK version on Guernica (confusing US version contains lyrics for the UK bonus tracks not included?) dreamy pop, wine glass drone, kraut-fixations, rhythmic interludes.
  • Isabel Bishop EP - there are several versions of this... i think the tracklisiting is all the same... "Heathers" joke, compiles some earlier single tracks
  • A Factory Record - 1991 Sub Pop single of the month... covers of ESG, Miaow, Crawling Chaos and Fin.
  • Yes She Is My Skinhead Girl - K Records... features the kraut- jam "Hydroplane" in truncated form... also available in half hour full format on various Cath Carroll promo CDs along with the track from the Stereolab split.

http://gygax.pitas.com, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Oddly enough, I just picked up Imperial FFRR via my NYC jaunt. Wanted that for a while! The two times I saw them, they were most entertaining, and unfortunately for dear Mr. Ewing, "Isabel" is most cool. ;-) I agree that there "Hydro" jam is pretty spectacular at full length.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

for ned and brian-

further covered "isabel" on their sometimes chimes 2xLP. really strange evocative version. speeded guitar/sample sounds like a harpsichord.

http://gygax.pitas.com, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

And you can dance to it!

David is OTM, except I wouldn't really know. Well, I have the experience of sudden shock and joy, dragging myself up those imaginary stairs. The recognition component is high. Tom, in the chapter of your book on the tension between rhythm and recognition, anonymity vs. eye contact, in (not) dance music, you've got to mention Unrest! (The rhythm component isn't bad either, but I suppose glorious=not cool.)

I prefer Perfect Teeth to Imperial f.f.r.r., 'Make Out Club' and 'Six Layer Cake' to 'Suki' and 'Cherry Cherry'. It's better when Bridget sings the songs that are not supposed to be glorious, e.g., 'Light Command'. Her version of 'Winona Ryder' is also better than Mark's.

youn, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Woah, gygas... how did you know I was gonna respond here... weird

I have to agree with Douglas on the "imperial f.f.r.r." being the "Another Green World" of indiepop bit. Thankfully, it was this record that got me into indie rock, and not something more uniform and less minimal. My favorite pieces on this album are, as David mentioned, the more warped difficult ones, like "Firecracker" and "Imperial". Tom, "Isabel" and "Cherry Cherry" don't exactly describe this album as a whole. If anything, this record kinda approximates the feel of a Tall Dwarfs record. "Imperial f.f.r.r." is a stunning record.

And over time, so is "Perfect Teeth", though it's more of an indie- pop record. "Angel I Will Walk You Home", "Cath Carroll", "Soon It's Going To Rain", "Food and Drink Synthesizer" (maybe getting the titles wrong here), "Stylized Ampersand" are all amazing songs.

"Malcolm X Park" and "Kustom Karnal Blackxploitation" are amazing in completely different ways. Then, they seem like a band that's sorta poking fun at Dischord while really drunk... though I think they serious... maybe. Is this where the whole punk-embracing-soul thing started? Seriously... the Make*Up must have listened to "Disko Magick" and ran with it, sans humor.

Brian MacDonald, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

"Bavarian Mods" is the best indiepop single ever. Although I find the weirdness enjoyable, Unrest at their best is pure sugar rush ("Cherry Cream On," "Cath Carroll," and quite a few that I can't think of the moment) where Mark strums the guitar so fast it seems like his arm is going to fall off. The Air Miami album does a good job of the manic pop thing as well. As a whole, the Unrest output has a tendency to lean towards dud, but the occasional high points far outweigh everything else.

Miranda, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I'm really iffy on early Unrest, but I adore Imperial f.f.r.r., Perfect Teeth and especially BPM, the singles/rarities collection--2 versions of "Winona Ryder," alternate versions of "Cherry Cherry" and the jewel in Mark Robinson's crown, "Bavarian Mods."

Most of the post-Unrest stuff has been top-notch, too. "World Cup Fever" is great (shut up, I like it), Flin Flon were AMAZING (no small part of that were M Robinson's funny- weird-scary facial expressions/little private dances during the live show next to Nattles' scowling [and John Lindaman (sp?) is a great drummer [and True Love Always another great band]]). Panax, Bridget Cross' band w/ Kathi Wilcox and Doug somebody-I-don't-remember have only put out 1 single and a comp track, both extremely excellent. Highest recommendation. Etc etc.

adam, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Haven't listened to them in at least five years, but I think they deserve some sort of classic status based on "Nation Writer" alone.

Andy K, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Unrest are pretty good. Maybe a bit short of classic but Imperial and Perfect Teeth are nice albums (the earlier stuff is a bit more raw, i haven;t heard it all tho). Good pop songs. I think there was still a bit of looking for direction going on, and when Mark Robinson et. al hit on going for a sort of update of the Factory sound with Air Miami, it is pretty great. Flin-Flon is good too but I think Bridget Cross is missed. If you like the label aesthetic thing, Teen Beat has certainly got it going on, classic for that IMO...

g, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Unrest are genius, mostly. I don't particularly like much of what they did pre-Imperial (there's some occasionally great moments) but Imperial is a godlike record, one of the few records I can still listen to and adore ten years after I first heard it. "Suki", "Isabel", "Skinhead Girl" are dead-set classics round my way. Perfect Teeth is great too, but not quite as jaw- dropping. "Cath Carroll" gets major points for featuring a Factory catalogue number in the lyrics, too.

electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

six months pass...
Bump. Just bought Malcolm X Park on vinyl and wanted to see if there were fans on here. Guess so!

FYI, "Disco Magik" rips off the Red Hot Chili Peppers ("True Men Don't Kill Cayotes"). They staggered around a lot and could be smartass/obscurantist in the worst way--I hate Fuck Pussy Galore, most of Kustom Karnal Blaxploitation, most of Perfect Teeth, and all Air Miami. (I noticed Christgau hates Imperial but he seems to have no facility for trancing.) Unrest influencde much crap, too.

Still, they made a new kind of jam minimalism that built on Sonic Youth without copying. They heard what was beautiful about Beat Happening and applied it to what they took from Joy Division. They had a mystery about them that made mail-order pop seem fun for a couple years.

Classic: "Teenage Suicide" off Kustom Karnal Blaxploitation (cover of the tune from Heathers), Malcolm X Park LP, Yes She Is My Skinhead Girl EP, Cherry Cream On EP, that Sub Pop single of covers, Imperial f.f.r.r. (American version), BPM compilation CD, "Nation Writer" off Isabel Bishop CD, "Where Are All Those Puerto Rican Boys?" off promotional Cath Carroll CD, "Angel I Will Walk You Home" off Perfect Teeth. Also: The Olympic Death Squad CD (Robinson solo) and Flin Flon live.

Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 24 August 2002 20:02 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Both Unrest and Flin Flon are surly missed, especially Flin Flon live. One of the most underrated bands yet.

On a side note, what do you all think of the 24 Hour Party People flick?

Markian Uno, Tuesday, 27 August 2002 03:46 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'm listening to Perfect Teeth at the moment: it's awful, it completely sets my teeth on edge. I can't find a single thing in it to like. I don't know what people mean when they call something like this "pop": grrrrr....

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 08:55 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Thankyou Mark thankyou thankyou. I bet you will like it in a week you swine.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 08:59 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i must tape a compilation of the dead C's ''greatest hits' and give it to mark s on a cassette (w/the doors on the other side of course).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 09:02 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

one part of the above statement is a joke, but can you guess which?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 09:05 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Mark: I'm at a complete loss as to how the majority of the songs on Perfect Teeth could be called anything but pop!

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 13:57 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

nitsuh you sure you're on the right board? haha, etc.

unrest never did a damn thing for me, except one song off fuck pussy galore that i can barely remember. (i want to say track three, but that'll be some horrible shambling indie pop thing and i will look the fool.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 14:02 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

They cover the Marine Girls = they are cool.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 14:34 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'm still waiting for pt. 2 of 102 Beats That! to come out so my anti-Perfect Teeth rant can finally see the light of day....

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 15:38 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I keep a copy under my pillow, MM.

102 Beats that publication date = 26th September by the way, i.e. six months after part 1.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 15:41 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Okay so I was thinking about this over lunch and I offer the following defense of Perfect Teeth. (Okay okay commence indie-boy eye-rolling:)

I get the feeling it needs to be thought of somewhat in context to be appreciated. American indie rock coming through into the nineties was pretty much deplorably rock: the 80s models were bands like the Replacements or Fugazi, big shouty crunchy-chord American rock bands, and just before 93 -- when Perfect Teeth was released -- a great grungy shot of even rawkier influence had been injected and toppled the whole thing over toward the mainstream. Meanwhile the UK was seeing stirrings of a less traditionalist indie approach -- Too Pure, roots of post-rock or what-have-you -- but while plenty of American bands were following this, they weren't really impacting the overall course of American indie, and even the American bands flogging that stuff in the UK, like Th Faith Healers, still had heavy doses of very American grit.

Perfect Teeth was not only an antidote to that but an advancement on it. It was entirely clean-lined: Robinson's big guitar blasts pretty much lacked distortion -- in America! in 1993! -- and instead gave us that frantic sped-up jangle that's distinctively his contribution to the lexicon. The record was also spacious, and spacey. At the point Stereolab was still working its wall-of-sound drone, but a lot of the tiny blip-tone melodies Unrest were constructing pointed ahead to the stuff Stereolab would be doing during a much later phase of their career -- the backing vocals at the end of "Angel I Will Walk You Home," for instance, this sort of concrete tone-placement approach that's all over the record. They managed to turn the foreground of their music into something like a Mondrian painting, the clean-lined blocks of particular tones, in a way that seemed to turn away from most of the other things going on at the time, and the sort of techy spaciness of those tones combined with Robinson's vague leaning toward some image of a 50s-style pop combo to create and probably surpass what would, four or five years later, become a major theme in indie internationally, even though no one connected that with anything Unrest had been doing.

It seemed cleaner and spacier and more friendly and cerebral than the highly-emotive rock idiom of the moment, and more bedroomy, and more personal: "Back when I was twenty / I didn't think anyone liked me." And it managed to set all of its most fascinating impulses in context: it functioned terrifically as a rock album, as a pop album, and as an "experimental" album. Which is, I think, a lot of why it gets praised so often, but also a lot of why it gets slated as a run-of-mill record: it certainly seems continuous with most of what else was going on at the time, but really it's quite difficult to come up with anyone else who sounded quite like them, or even anyone else who's particularly followed the techniques that were actually uniquely theirs.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 16:03 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

mark s:I'm listening to Perfect Teeth at the moment: it's awful, it completely sets my teeth on edge. I can't find a single thing in it to like. I don't know what people mean when they call something like this "pop": grrrrr....

Well, I probably shouldn't have used the term "indie-pop" so loosely, as I meant it colloquially, and not as any sort of "pop" at all. Ooops.

Don't get me wrong. "Make Out Club" and maybe "Cath Carroll" had at least some potential for radio play, IMHO. But as a whole, "Perfect Teeth" is certainly not a 'pop' record.

Nabisco did a GRATE job of his summation of said record. Though, I'll add that since listening to a heavy dose of early Factory record bands since, I can now definitely hear those elements in almost all of Unrest, unique they may be, in the 90s. Mark Robinson would be the first to admit it. (Well, "A Factory record" is pretty much an admission right there)

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 16:32 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Here is the requisite follow-up post I was about to append when ilXor went momentarily overloaded:

Also I think their post-Unrest projects do a good job of pointing up what was uniquely theirs: the minimalist concrete rock of Flin Flon is really quite intriguingly assembled, and deserves credit for feeling more like the propulsion of let's say Gang of Four than most of the bands actually imitating Gang of Four; and I still think the Air Miami record is lovely, a perfect showcase for the side of Robinson that's obsessed with arranging these clean hypnotic tones into breezy beachy pop songs. It also gets at his weird habit of taking Factory-style sounds but swinging them toward punchy major-key pop (the Stockholm Monsters are maybe the only precedent I can find for this, and it's still sort of different) -- as generally "new-wave" as they sound, it's tough to find very good analogies for the approaches of "Sweet Little Heartbreaker" or "Neely."

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 16:52 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

nice one Nitsuh! (though I never liked Perfect Teeth nearly as much as Imperial)
Mark Robinson wasn't the only strong songwriter in Unrest, checkout: Phil Krauth - "Heat Of The Night", "La Vida Dura" (both solo); Bridget Cross - "June" (Unrest), "Event Horizon" (Air Miami).

Paul (scifisoul), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 16:58 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Nitsuh=Nabisco? Why do you hide under a different name? What's the point if everyone recognizes you anyway? Is this a quiz show?

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 18:42 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

N****h has googling fears, Alex -- it's to do with a thread he posted on that his mother found, but the thread itself wasn't the type of thing you'd necessarily talk to your mother about. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 18:50 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Unrest hype = The Feelies died in vain.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 07:10 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
does anyone have the tracklisting for the reissue of Imperial FFRR? there's no info on the Teenbeat site..

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

All these posts without a single mention of Unrest's Stairway To Heaven, "I Do Believe You Are Blushing." Even Christgau admits that'a a good one. A decent band with a few good songs, but really haven't transcended that early 90s indie era. Transcend...there's another good rock critic word, at the risk of sounding, uh, pretentious.

I saw them live at Maxwells after Perfect Teeth and they did this long a capella bit that was beyond goofy. Bridgid Cross started to crack up in the middle of it, which was cool.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

20 tracks:
1-11: tracks on original US CD release of imperial f.f.r.r., remastered
12: Electrico - US vinyl bonus track - short and noisy
13, 14, 17: Hydrofoil One, Full Frequency, Wednesday & Proud - bonus tracks that were on the Guernica/4AD UK CD release of imperial f.f.r.r.
15: Isabel - 12" version
16: Cherry Cherry - sounds to me like the 7" version included on B.P.M.
18, 19: Empire and Rip-off - two demos of the track "Imperial"
20: Chdemo - demo of "Cherry Cherry"/"Cherry Cream On"

The bonus tracks aren't hugely revelatory (and fans probably have 'em already, except for the demos), but do buy it for the nice remastering job.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

4ad should reactivate guernica, they released some great records on it.

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Mark Robinson = among the rhythm-guitar greats.

this is the truest statement on this thread. as a guitar player, "cath carroll" makes me jealous. as a songwriter, "isabel" makes me jealous. as a grammarian, this paragraph is loaded with problematic sentences, but i'm too lazy to edit it.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

kornrulez696 wrote: All these posts without a single mention of Unrest's Stairway To Heaven, "I Do Believe You Are Blushing."

There are a million things about the album I love, but I particularly love the double-tracked vocals on "Blushing" and how they diverge into non-obvious, amazing harmonies. Or on "June" where Bridget sings a pedal note for the "How did it feel to be 26 degrees?" part along with the main vocal melody.

...or how they put two instrumentals back to back, as if to say, "These are not throwaways" - and they are indeed essential! (On the other hand, I wouldn't have cared if they had left off "Food & Drink Synthesizer" from Perfect Teeth.) You have the drum machine precision of "Champion Nines" followed by the kinda-sloppy-but-in-a-good-way drumming of "Sugarshack".

Mark's guitar sound is just perfect. I mean, when I listen to the opening notes of "Goodbye," I'm practically in tears.

How does ILX rate the Phil Krauth solo albums? I only have Silver Eyes - it's okay, didn't really inspire me to buy more, though. That Panax song that was on one of the TeenBeat samplers was great. Do they have anything else?

Ernest P. (ernestp), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 05:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Shoot, I was hoping they'd include the single version of "Yes She Is My Skinhead Girl" (remixed to immortal effect by Kramer, if memory serves), which has yet to appear on CD in the U.S. except on K Records' International Hip Swing.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 15:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ernest: the new Phil Krauth is excellent. I'm listening to it right now for like the 4th time this morning (24 minutes long).

The Panax 7" is so so so so great. Their entire output is that 7" and the comp track which is also great.

adam (adam), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 16:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

i'm gonna have to top and say completely fucking classic! i love this band so much.

htshell, Saturday, 15 March 2008 16:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

I totally love their cover of "God Gave Rock and Roll To You". After being blown away by that in the early 90s I picked up Perfect Teeth and never really got into it. But that one cover was amazing.

Euler, Saturday, 15 March 2008 17:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

And right you are for it! xpost

mehlt, Saturday, 15 March 2008 17:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

After not listening to them for a year or so I random-shuffled onto "Imperial" the other day and was elated all over again. What a great band.

Douglas, Sunday, 16 March 2008 15:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, to me they are just undeniably fantastic. Its so easy to call them one of my all time favorite bands.

The comparison to "what goes on" way up thread is very otm

later arpeggiator, Sunday, 16 March 2008 15:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

Was just thinking about them a bit yesterday. Very glad to have caught them twice, both times great.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 March 2008 16:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

I saw them the night Bill Clinton was elected! They were great.

Was just reading Matos' "great out-of-print albums" column on Perfect Teeth in Idolator the other day.

sleeve, Sunday, 16 March 2008 16:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

'I do believe that you are blushing'was always a favourite of mine
Beautiful. That album (Imperial...) on the wonderful and badly missed Ajax records for a while?

I have an album by Unrest in my loft that sounds more like I thought Unrest would sound - punk. And it's not the one with the girl on the cover.I've just done a fruitless, probably lazy, google and not found it. Any ideas?

Fer Ark, Sunday, 16 March 2008 20:31 (ten years ago) Permalink


never got all that much into malcolm x, but when i first heard it i was a huge imperial head so maybe i'd feel differently about it now

the groin transfer (electricsound), Monday, 20 September 2010 22:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

can't get past how ugly the sleeve is tbh. from Imperial on all their stuff looks SO great.

from imperial on their stuff looks great. and uptight, anal, entirely defined by conventional (mid-to-late 20th century) thinking about "good design" and "good taste".

malcolm X park cover art seems to come from a mirror universe wr2 those buttoned-down aesthetics. raw, sloppy, deliberately ugly, crude, badly designed. somewhat appealing on that level, and representative of the messy, homemade, splattery music within.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Monday, 20 September 2010 22:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

as a record, i can't go with malcolm x park as their best. think they were still defining themselves at that point, working to find an individual voice within a whirl of then-current punk, post-punk, art & indie influences. the follow-up, kustom karnal blaxploitation, seemed like an attempt to align themselves with the likes of sonic youth (creepy tunings, "rock" posturing, dark subject matter), and a triumph within the band of their prog over their pop tendencies, but it's a failure, and a brilliant one in that they were so quickly able to learn from it. boring as it may be to say, imperial still stands as their masterpiece. it's their sound, not an approximation of anyone else's, and it never falters, doubts itself, breaks stride.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Monday, 20 September 2010 22:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

great post. let me think about this.

yeah, i think kustom karnal is brilliant, defiantly so, maybe

as i said above, i think imperial is the best song-wise. during that time i was blown away by their singles run of cherry, skinhead girl, factory tribute, bavarian mods. maybe i'm just a sucker for contrarianism, but i loved that they went directly from kustom karnal to jangly pop songs. kinda like writing a sparkly almost radio-ready song like skinhead girl but dousing it in four-letter words, provocative subject matter

think i like mxp so much b/c it is brash in a clueless first album sort of way...enthusiasm trumping everything. lots of confidence, too many ideas. i realize it's not their first lp, but it has that vibe almost. and i feel like it's aged really well. 'fuck pussy galore' or whatever it's called is something of a mess, kustom feels strangulated somehow and maybe too much of a pose, imperial for all of its greatness sounds thin to me sometimes, and i never really got into p. teeth.

dude (del), Monday, 20 September 2010 23:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

entirely defined by conventional (mid-to-late 20th century) thinking about "good design" and "good taste".

yeah, especially the cover of the animal park 7"!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 00:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

well, almost entirely ;D

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

imperial ffrr is nice for a hot summer day

van ingalls wilder (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:53 (seven years ago) Permalink


Drummer Phil Krauth is now my son's English teacher. They had some tough essays on Crime & Punishment.

― curmudgeon, Monday, September 20, 2010 7:19 PM

He was a hard but fair 11th grade English teacher. A "B" for the year in an IB English class is not bad. I do not know if Mr. Krauth finds any time to drum these days.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 20:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

I hope so! love his drumming

No Broehner (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 20:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

love everything about this band, really

No Broehner (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 20:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

did you lot hear the version of hydroplane that was on the recent codeine box?


acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:01 (five years ago) Permalink

actually i'm making the assumption here that hydroplane was an unrest original or am i wrong?

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:09 (five years ago) Permalink

indeed it is

prissy relay switches (electricsound), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:11 (five years ago) Permalink

phew! far too good a song to waste on a b-side imo

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:14 (five years ago) Permalink

I jammed the 33-minute "Hydro" the other day, it RULED. Love this band so much, I kinda want to be a completist but it is expen$$$ive.

sleeve, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:46 (five years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

I totally love their cover of "God Gave Rock and Roll To You". After being blown away by that in the early 90s I picked up Perfect Teeth and never really got into it. But that one cover was amazing.

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droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 21 September 2015 16:56 (three years ago) Permalink

Never even heard of that. What is it on?

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 September 2015 17:14 (three years ago) Permalink

it is so good, and I wish I could find a lyric sheet because I just hear fragments of pleas and regrets and memories ("I found my mailbox full of you", what a lovely line) and I want to get a better understanding of what's falling apart and how. I think I understand what rock and roll has to do with it though.

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 21 September 2015 17:25 (three years ago) Permalink

so good

sleeve, Monday, 21 September 2015 17:47 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Not sure how I never managed to post in this thread. Total classic & much missed.

lingereffect (Kent Burt), Sunday, 7 January 2018 02:46 (one year ago) Permalink

It was an unexpected thrill to hear them on the radio the other day. The Current played "Make Out Club."

geoffreyess, Sunday, 7 January 2018 18:31 (one year ago) Permalink

I was listening to the Isabel Bishop EP last night and realized how great the funkier version of "Isabel" is.

geoffreyess, Sunday, 7 January 2018 18:33 (one year ago) Permalink

Haven't heard the EP is a couple decades but how far from the original with the "Ashley's Roachclip" drum break added is it?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 7 January 2018 19:50 (one year ago) Permalink

iirc the EP version is the same as the "Isabel Bishop" 7" - only the version on Imperial is drumless

sleeve, Sunday, 7 January 2018 19:54 (one year ago) Permalink

I want a Mark Robinson/Unrest anthology...

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 8 January 2018 16:45 (one year ago) Permalink

god i love this band

maura, Monday, 8 January 2018 20:43 (one year ago) Permalink


Evan, Monday, 8 January 2018 20:45 (one year ago) Permalink

perfect teeth was so great, what a way to go off into the sunset

porg and bess (voodoo chili), Monday, 8 January 2018 20:51 (one year ago) Permalink


Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 8 January 2018 20:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Any Air Miami fans?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 January 2018 20:59 (one year ago) Permalink

Tomas MacLoughlin
8 years ago
the drummer, phil krauth is my English teacher!!!
how cool is that??

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:00 (one year ago) Permalink

xp Mike Fellow is no Phil Krauth, but Air Miami are OK. Never clicked with them the same way.

sleeve, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:03 (one year ago) Permalink

Not to brag but I saw Unrest at Maxwells and The Ropers were the openers...

...in 2010

Evan, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:04 (one year ago) Permalink

I kinda want to be a completist but it is expen$$$ive.

― sleeve, Wednesday, February 27, 2013

five years later, the only formal Unrest releases I'm still missing are the "Make Out Club" 7" and the split tape with Dust Devils, but then there are a bunch of impossible-to-find Teenbeat cassette compilations as well.

sleeve, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:05 (one year ago) Permalink

Were you really finding it expensive at the time? None of my Unrest records are worth that much money. I don't see a lot of interest in Unrest these days in general. I'm wondering if they will be "rediscovered" by p4k or someone and have their classic status affirmed a little more among the general public someday.

Evan, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:23 (one year ago) Permalink

the really expensive one that I still don't have is the UK LP release of Perfect Teeth, it's like $80 or more

Make Out Club single is > $20 and I just can't justify it since I have all the tracks already afaik

most of this stuff is pretty affordable, I think I had to spend $40-50 on the 1st LP original

sleeve, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:25 (one year ago) Permalink

This one? https://www.discogs.com/Unrest-Perfect-Teeth/release/1622164

Evan, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:47 (one year ago) Permalink

yes, trying to find a copy for sale in the US is very difficult

sleeve, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:48 (one year ago) Permalink

Based on that marketplace, Germany is hoarding all of them!

Evan, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:50 (one year ago) Permalink

Any Air Miami fans?

*raises hand

tbh I bought the Air Miami CD because I saw it 2nd hand for about £2.50 some time in the 90s because of the Unrest connection, listened to it a couple of times but didn't think that much of it. A few years later when I first started talking to my now-wife about music she was a fan (of both bands) and sent me a copy of their demo and got me to listen to the album again, and that time it clicked for me.

Colonel Poo, Monday, 8 January 2018 22:27 (one year ago) Permalink

Any Cotton Candy fans?

henry s, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:53 (one year ago) Permalink

me otm 16 years ago about flin flon and ESPECIALLY about panax's "the garden" (from the 2000 teanbeat sampler):


when i was a kid in dc the teenbeat stuff felt a lot less cliquish than the dischord post hardcore cool guys and a lot more stylish than the theater dork pukka shell stylings of the dismemberment plan.

adam, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:13 (one year ago) Permalink

yes, trying to find a copy for sale in the US is very difficult

sleeve, i will keep an eye open for that one for you

faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:24 (one year ago) Permalink

<3 thank you!

sleeve, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:29 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Oh my god, I Do Believe You Are Blushing, where have you been? Apart from, of course, on my shelf for the last decade, unlistened.

Where do I go after Imperial ffrr?

call me by your name..or Finn (fionnland), Sunday, 4 February 2018 21:15 (one year ago) Permalink

Perfect Teeth, immediately :)

sleeve, Sunday, 4 February 2018 21:16 (one year ago) Permalink

and then BPM

sleeve, Sunday, 4 February 2018 21:16 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I do believe your blushing is their best song imo

nostormo, Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:34 (three days ago) Permalink

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