Digital Restoration and Preservation of Audio Recordings

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I saw a talk today by this guy:

http://www.lbl.gov/Tech-Transfer/techs/lbnl1855.html

[talk title: IMAGING THE VOICES OF THE PAST: Using Physics to Restore Early Sound Recordings] [as if you would have clicked on this thread had I used that for the title!] :)

Here's Prof. Huber's website, which contains lots more information about his work including links to papers and lecture notes/ppt presentations:

http://www-cdf.lbl.gov/~av/

Other sound transfer methods involving physical contact with the recording medium, e.g. using a stylus. For damaged or decaying media, this is risky because it risks further damage to these irreplaceable recordings. Their method is optical, so no direct contact needs to be made.

The physics is actually quite simple. They're using commercially available optical scanning equipment to image the surface of the recording medium (shellac record, wax cylinders, etc.). Their expertise as particle physicists is mainly in the detector design. The speed of the imaging process mainly depends on how much light hits their detector, so having very sensitive detectors and efficient imaging systems is a big deal.

Once the surface profile is recorded, they can "clean up" the recording using standard signal processing techniques: frequency filtering and the like.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 22 September 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

Aren't there turntables that work with a laser so that the grooves are read optically rather than physically? Also, I remember reading about somebody trying to extract recordings from ancient pottery because a spun pot is basically like a wax cylinder and presumably if the potter was holding some kind of implement to the clay it might vibrate with sound and pick up noises in the room. Of course they were only able to extract a bunch of noise.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 22 September 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)

the laser turntable exists and apparently does a reasonable job but apparently there's all sorts of unpleasantness relating to the company that makes them.

jimmy glass (electricsound), Thursday, 22 September 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)

http://www.smartdev.com/LT/laserturntable.html

jimmy glass (electricsound), Thursday, 22 September 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)

Why won't other companies make them? 10K is a lot of money but not extravagant for audiophiles who will pay thousands of dollars for top of the line equipment.

The cleaned-up recordings were far from hi-fi ... naturally, the digital sampling and signal processing eliminates hiss and noise but also supresses fidelity in the high frequency range (there are audio samples on Huber's website).

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 22 September 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

The worldwide patents on the Laser turntable will expire in about two years. It is possible that other manufacturers will pick up some, or all, of the protected schemes that are presently covered by patents and offer lower priced models.

jimmy glass (electricsound), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

= you can bet your sweet bippy someone will

jimmy glass (electricsound), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

I heard they suck.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

I mean, it's great if you have some priceless artifact that you don't want to damage in the slightest but I don't think it's a viable substitute for an actual cartridge.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

yes this is the impression i get

jimmy glass (electricsound), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

although it strikes me that they developed the technology and then never took it any further than that. i mean, an all-in-one vinyl restoration system may be expensive but in no way do i believe it's impossible. having to attach a CEDAR (i mean, really) is a big red flag for quality.

jimmy glass (electricsound), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)

i'm in a digital archiving class through my job, more for visual media, but this article came up which is pretty interesting:

Digitizing the World’s Largest Collection of Natural Sounds: Key Factors to Consider when Transferring Analog-Based Audio Materials to Digital Formats

amon (eman), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

The Record Industry's Digital Storage Crisis
Last year, the Beggars Banquet label unearthed the multitrack master
recordings of the Cult's classic 1985 album, Love, for a planned
deluxe edition. The LP was an early digital recording, and to the
label's shock, one master was unplayable; the other contained only 80
percent of the album. “That's the problem with digital," says Steve
Webbon, head archivist of the Beggars Group. “When it goes, it's just
blank. It's gone."

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/news.php?id=72021

sleeve, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

Yay!

Pottery Owls (MaresNest), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)


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