allmusic still lists Failure's Fantastic Planet as merely a 2-star album

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Can something please be done about this? You people have connections, don't you?

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 03:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Wouldn't know anything about that.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 04:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Who put that extra star in there?

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 04:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Bless Dean Carlson.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 05:00 (eighteen years ago) link

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harshaw (jube), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 05:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I still say the albini produced debut is an excellent post-grunge parody.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

"Stuck on You" was a cool song.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

*hums Lionel Richie*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

80s boy.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Yay the me!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Didn't they do "Hey Man Nice Shot"?

xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

You have them confused with Fuel.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link

hahano. The correct answer is of course Folk Implosion (xpost)

"Daylight" is also a keeper, and not just for the killer plinky-plunky mistuned-piano hook.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I hate all of you.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Robble.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link

This however is where I will say I did actually pick up said Failure album for a buck or so due to the appearance of a song on there, "The Nurse Who Loved Me," which was later covered on A Perfect Circle's extremely fine Thirteenth Step album. I prefer A Perfect Circle's take.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Dean Carlson? I think I know that guy. Hmmm.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, I know him too from Suede lists gone by. But then he started writing for the AMG and things got weird...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Did he go to UCLA?

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Yup. A few years after me, I believe (class of '92).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Dean Carlson celebrated:

Yes yes DC is a legend 'round these parts. We quote him like we quote Morrissey and Sly Stone. Quite a while back, someone wrote this in honor of him:
Artist: Nirvana
Album Title: Nevermind
Date of Release: Sep 24, 1991
AMG Rating: * [one star]
Genre: Rock
Styles: Grunge, Alternative Pop/Rock
1994: Doug Fieger, phone your brother. Poncey Knack-ered pop songs that add pinch-upon-punch of guitar sludge with all the enthusiasm of Jamie Oliver in front of the prawn case at the local butcher have now become de rigueur on US radio. Invisible airwaves crackle with strife. The two-note tortes are all Kurdt's fault, and no it isn't pukka. Black Francis lectures on Soft/Loud but that Spicoli bloke is in the back with spitballs. Care to share some with the rest of the class? Ed Kowalczyk's up front scrawling "I Alone" while having a spell of Rum-Tum-Tug-That-Daft-Pontytail with the Hairy One from the Melvins. Even the headmaster loses the plot. "Aloha, Mr. Stomachcramps." Loverboy's been warned: Nirvana's got a fuzzbox and they're gonna throw it through their SUV window. What's worse, there's a Youngbloods reference. Is that Freedom Rock, mate? Someone's pulling our hole-knee bekecked legs. Yanks raise a collective eyebrow. 2001: Gregg Alexander sticks up Cinnabon with his droogs and kicks all our asses. An Ark 21 bigwig by the name of Miles chokes on his shark steak sandwich. Fibonacci rips off Diophantus. This is tardcore. And I swear that I don't have a pun.
-- Andy K (andke...), June 11th, 2002.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 October 2005 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

More Dean:
http://www.fckdncrlsn.com/
http://www.usvsthem.net/

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 20 October 2005 00:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, that's an...interesting reuse of V for Vendetta there.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 October 2005 00:09 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Dudes who give a shit (all one of you): PARAMOUR covered "Stuck On You" a few years ago!!!

David R., Tuesday, 14 October 2008 13:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Like I said PARAMORE

David R., Tuesday, 14 October 2008 13:14 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Great album, pulled it out tonight for a spin.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 16 October 2009 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link

"PARAMOUR covered "Stuck On You" a few years ago!!!"

really?

well pull down my pants and call me swamp thing (latebloomer), Friday, 16 October 2009 02:56 (fourteen years ago) link

four years pass...

FAILURE ANNOUNCE TREE OF STARS TOUR

April 7, 2014, Los Angeles - Failure, the influential LA trio who recently reunited for their first shows in sixteen years, have announced the Tree of Stars North American 2014 Tour.

The tour kicks off with the band's previously announced Cinquanta shows on May 10 and 11 in Los Angeles and will see shows throughout North America including Chicago, New York and Toronto.

Tree of Stars North American Tour 2014

May 10 Los Angeles, CA Cinquanta (The Greek Theatre)
May 11 Los Angeles, CA Cinquanta (The Greek Theatre)
May 14 San Francisco, CA Great American Music Hall*
May 15 San Francisco, CA Great American Music Hall*
May 17 Vancouver, BC Rickshaw Theatre*
May 18 Seattle, WA The Showbox*
May 21 Minneapolis, MN The Varsity*
May 22 Chicago, IL The Metro**
May 24 Milwaukee, WI The Rave II**
May 25 Detroit, MI St. Andrew's Hall**
May 26 Toronto, ON Mod Club*
May 27 Toronto, ON Mod Club*
May 29 New York, NY Irving Plaza*
May 30 Philadelphia, PA Theatre of Living Arts*
May 31 Asbury Park, NJ The Stone Pony*
June 1 Boston, MA Paradise Rock Club*
June 3 Brooklyn, NY Music Hall of Williamsburg*
June 5 Silver Spring, MD The Fillmore*

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 7 April 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link

Dunno when it happened, but it looks like it's now a 2 and a half star album.

MarkoP, Monday, 7 April 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

new album coming out this month.

how's life, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 08:51 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

streaming

http://www.stereogum.com/1811275/stream-failure-the-heart-is-a-monster/mp3s/

how's life, Thursday, 25 June 2015 14:06 (eight years ago) link

Out now. I've only made it through half the album because, unsurprisingly, it's very dense, but it sounds great.

how's life, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 11:21 (eight years ago) link

Velvet Rope - 2.5 stars
Out of Time - 2.5 stars

Oh, I thought this was an Allmusic gets it wrong thread.

geoffreyess, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link

afaik this is the only thread for Failure the band. Apparently they don't have much of a following on ilx.

how's life, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link

there's a joke in there somewhere

rahrah avis (imago), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link

I kinda gave up on discussing Failure on ILX. The new one is ok and possibly getting warmer on repeated listens.

billstevejim, Thursday, 2 July 2015 05:28 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I guess discussion on in an A Perfect Circle thread led me to believe that they were super popular here.

Anyway, I find that I'm warming to the album, but it still takes me a while to get through. Hot Traveler has been stuck in my head for the last few days though.

how's life, Thursday, 2 July 2015 13:44 (eight years ago) link

Mulholland Drive kinda trips me up in the middle. I don't need a Beatles/Beach Boys patische in the middle of a Failure record. It is no Nurse Who Loved Me either.

The rest of the album is holding up really well for me though.

how's life, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 13:52 (eight years ago) link

fantastic planet is incredible.

the new one is okay, though i think it'd be better if it started four or five tracks later than it does (forget where). i like "mulholland drive" but it's maybe a little weird in context. cool to hear "i can hear houses" recorded finally but they either lost something in the studio or it's less than i'd imagined it to be based on the bootleg i heard years and years ago.

also, kinda lame to begin and end the record with "segues" imo, especially numbering them 4 through 9, as though this album were a literal sequel to FP. just underscores how this album's best only barely beats out that one's worst (though by pre-FP standards, however questionable those may be, it fares much better).

soyrev, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 15:58 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

at this point i love the new record and my esteem for it only grows with each listen

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link

prob my favorite rock album of the year

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link

I keep coming beck to it as well.

can't stop won't stop chooglin (how's life), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link

Like, I listen to the whole thing every couple weeks, but I still don't feel like I've unlocked all its riches.

can't stop won't stop chooglin (how's life), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link

Never really dug into it past the advance tracks, need to get on that

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzC8fyC4j_g

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 1 April 2018 03:24 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

the eps they've been releasing this year have been phenomenal

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 October 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

and the new album is even better than the heart is a monster https://open.spotify.com/album/7xaaWnqHbVIJYBOFadtXKC?si=YEBBNhDfRpK8zXAueT4NCw

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 16 November 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link

idk, simon, flappy, do you like this band? i feel like both of y'all could get down with this record

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 16 November 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

periodic update that a new failure album is coming out, wild type droid, december 3rd, both singles rule ass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC8AQ7uWKk0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWjQlQWcsI4

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 21:28 (two years ago) link

both previous failure albums were to the standard of fantastic planet and i still desperately need the ilm failure crew to reassemble

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link

!!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link

fuck. yeah.

peace, man, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 21:40 (two years ago) link

omg “bad translation”

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 3 December 2021 14:42 (two years ago) link

this is all i've listened to today, it's phenomenal

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 3 December 2021 21:56 (two years ago) link

idk what it is but I feel like I already know what every new Failure song is going to sound like before pressing play.

I'll definitely give the new one a shot. So far I simply don't hear any 2015-present Failure at the same level of dopeness as stuff like Smoking Umbrellas or Dirty Blue Balloons or Solaris.

billstevejim, Sunday, 5 December 2021 20:02 (two years ago) link

not “counterfeit sky”? “what makes it easy”? “heavy and blind”? idk i think they picked up right where they left off and i never get tired of the sound

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 5 December 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Looks like I posted on this thread 16 years ago (!) but I'm not sure I've thought about Failure since then.

Stuck On You still sounds good, even as a bedroom youtube acoustic cover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMsdGChZRus

Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 8 February 2022 02:35 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

holy fuckin shit @ the last five tracks of this album

imago, Friday, 27 January 2023 14:03 (one year ago) link

Damn I wish I could find a copy of In the Future...

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 27 January 2023 16:07 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

the last four tracks of in the future... >>>>>>

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 17:12 (one year ago) link

guess i'm heading there next

imago, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 17:13 (one year ago) link

Headed to Magnified next. Whoa! Moth is amaaaaazing

imago, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 12:26 (one year ago) link

the whole opening run is amazing, Frogs being all weirdly epic and then Bernie sounding like Slint doing an alt-rock slammer

imago, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 15:35 (one year ago) link

but Moth is like, something else

imago, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link

Just finally got a copy of In the Future, looks like I gotta track down Magnified next. Kicking myself now because I definitely remember that one popping up in the bins regularly in college, but I hadn't yet discovered the magnificence of Fantastic Planet and the cover always gave me "corny alt-rock also-ran" vibes so I never checked it out.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link

I've met lots of people who like Magnified the best.

"Undone" might be my #1.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link

Opening track of In The Future... is a Radioheadish 00s-indie song?

But a really, really good one lol

imago, Thursday, 2 March 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link

was revisiting the heart is a monster last week and i think i just have to admit it's my favorite failure album, the songs all slap and the dream concept is extremely my shit

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 March 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link

One of those bands I feel slightly affronted to not have been informed of earlier

imago, Thursday, 2 March 2023 15:08 (one year ago) link


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