bands:
Soft MachineClem SnideCanned HeatSteely DanJunk Sick Dawn
Steppenwolf said that the phrase "heavy metal thunder" came from Burroughs, didn't they?
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)
― Old School (sexyDancer), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)
― owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)
more a dedication than a lift,
Gordon Mumma - "Megaton for Wm. Burroughs"http://artofthestates.org/cgi-bin/piece.pl?pid=91
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)
http://archive.groovy.net/dl/elerev.html
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/authors/william-s-burroughs/burroughs-anderson-70.jpg
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)
― 11V, Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)
― jw (ex machina), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)
Also, I believe James had a song called "Johnny Yen", but they borrowed it from Iggy for all I know.
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 20 October 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Thursday, 20 October 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)
― sibsi (sibsi), Thursday, 20 October 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)
― mzui (mzui), Thursday, 20 October 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 20 October 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)
I think "heavy metal" is by far the most impressive contribution of WSB to rock. Followed by Steely Dan, of course.
Drew, where's the musical reference to "Junk Sick Dawn"?
― carl w (carl w), Thursday, 20 October 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)
― nickn (nickn), Thursday, 20 October 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)
Did Bowie, who famously borrowed cut-up technique circa Diamond Dogs, have any direct Burroughsian lyrical borrowings? Did Patti Smith?
Are there any hip-hop Burroughs references, not counting Disposable Heroes?
― carl w (carl w), Thursday, 20 October 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)
Also Dead Fingers Talk is a band and a WSB book title.
― nickn (nickn), Thursday, 20 October 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 20 October 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, there are lots of Burroughs related musical projects, I guess I was just looking at who was inspired by, but not a collaborator with, WSB, though it's good to point all of those out. I am sure there are some Bowie lyrics somewhere that riff on it- I guess also VU's "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" is about Burroughs, isn't it?
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 21 October 2005 00:17 (twenty years ago)
― ken taylrr never her (ken taylrr), Friday, 21 October 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)
― Taito, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)
Canned Heat isn't from Burroughs.
― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)
― mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)
Burroughs has an elaborate prose explanation of what a "Johnson" is- it's somebody who won't rat on you, who's on the level with you, who won't snitch- and I'm wondering if Antony's band is named after this concept. I should ask him.
I'm pretty sure that Burroughs got that whole Johnson thing from the Jack Black book 'You Can't Win' which was an autobiographical tome dealing with criminality and hobo culture in the early 20th century. It's a good read and I think that it was Amok Press who put out an edition in the late 80's with a nice Joe Coleman cover if you can find that.
― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)
That's the common recieved wisdom. But it's not in the context of music and the actual person who coined the usage in music journalism in 70 or 71 was Metal Mike Saunders. And Burroughs was no influence, if you know Saunders, who was a student at U of Texas at the time. Saunders coined it in a record review and shared it in correspondence with his colleagues at the music mags (Bangs, Meltzer, Marsh). It was slow to be picked up. Other terms like "downer rock" and "third generation rock" were used to describe the nascent genre and, obviously, none of them stuck. Slowly, Saunders' meaning of heavy metal was adopted it more widely in the next couple of years.
There aren't a lot of people who have seen the old record review archives in such magazines, simply because they're not easily accessible and the collections are far and wide. But if you look in them it's easily traceable. Someone will eventually put them on the web or into a book to settle the matter more widely.
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)
Please help ID this track - poss. On-U Sound: Andy Fairley?
― Joe Bon Jonvi (Joe Bon Jonvi), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)
― Denise Robbins, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 19:59 (twenty years ago)