bill nelson vs EMI records

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its a long read, it may have been ILM'd before (i searched !), its just dropped into my inbox via an on-u sound discussion (who are supposedly getting a dist deal with emi), thought it may be of interest to some of you.

http://www.diesofluid.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=376&view=previous&sid=a59f14686a9f56b30f3a3f5d7f16f707

― mark e (mark e), Friday, 21 October 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

that is massively fucked up. have there been any further developments? that was posted over a year ago

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 21 October 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

bastards. things get screwed up sometimes but this is so obviously the record label's incompetent fault, you'd think any one of them at EMI would have a sense of conscience about having fucked the man over like that...

― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 21 October 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

http://www.morphius.com/images/items/GOK-068CD_lg.jpg

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 21 October 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

posted this late friday night, so does the uk daytime crew may know more as to whether there is an update on this story ?

― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

He's a bit of a fool if he has been making records since the mid 70's and not enquiring about his own finiancial standing within the company until recently.

I know EMI's accountantcy dept are really bad, stories are legion, but what about Nelson's publishing company? surely his mechanical royalties were being paid to the company his old manager set up?

Wouldn't Nelson be little suspucious if he never recieved statements/money from the PRS or even worse statements without the money, or has he been living off publishing all these years alone? either way something doesn't add up.

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

all of your questions were directly answered in his post, perhaps you should just re-read it

― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

they told him that he hadn't recouped the costs of their initial advance, mzui

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

Maybe you should both re-read my post, there's no mention of any publishing money, only royalties from record sales. I was kinda curious from a publishing angle, because I'd have thought that the company that his ex manager set up early on( the one that EMI's accountants cited as their first shady excuse) would have filtered through his MCPS & PRS payments, and assuming it did, why wasn't he more aware of the situation.

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

ah, I see. I do get the sense that he left an unfortunate number of business details to managers. I agree that artists need to be tediously aware of their own finances when dealing with labels but I wince when the victim gets blamed.

― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Thing is, you cannot go to a record label and be nice and ask them for money with a good reason behind it. You have to go in with a fuckoff lawyer on your side.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 06:57 (twenty years ago)

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