I am not speaking of string laden early disco songs such as "Love To Love You Baby", but stuff in the vein of "I Feel Love", "Sunset People" and that 1979 album by Sparks.
The reason why I am asking is I plan to burn myself a 4-5 CD chronological anthology of Italo Disco, and as I know there are lots of Italo Disco fans here on ILX, it would be great to have your opinion on this before I decide whether to include a couple Moroder tracks at the beginning or not.
Some reasons why he may be classified as Italo Disco:
- Giorgio Moroder, without any doubt, is actually very Italian indeed
- Some of his late 70s output has a lot in common with Italo Disco musically: 4/4 disco beats, lots of synth, and those repetitive synth patterns that are so typical of the genre
However, on the other hand, I rarely see him lumped together with the other names associated with the genre, he worked mainly with Americans and Germans, and he has indeed produced a lot of stuff that has absolutely nothing in common with Italo Disco (I mean, "Take My Breath Away" and "Love Missile F1-11", obviously...)
So what is your opinion? Do "Sunset People" and "The Number One Song In Heaven" belong at the beginning of an Italo Disco anthology? Yes or No? And Why? Why Not?
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 21 October 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)
If you can find the right song, I say go for it. You've pretty much stated the case.
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Friday, 21 October 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)
"The Chase".
These records are more than just Italo-Disco to me, but they can certainly fit in on an Italo-Disco comp just as well.
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Friday, 21 October 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)
― 11V, Saturday, 22 October 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 22 October 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)
Have finished four CDs so far, and it seems there will be two more until I am in late 1987 and Italo Disco (at least at its artistic height) is more or less dead save for instrumental acts such as K.O.T.O and Laserdance.
And I agree that Italo disco may not only be from Italy. So far I have included tracks by acts such as Sparks, Flirts and Fancy, and it seems that there will be contributions from Scandinavian acts such as Laban and Paul Rein in #5 (possibly Avalanche too, if I manage to find "Wheel Of Fortune" on DC).
May post the tracklisting of the CDs when I am finished.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 22 October 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)
CD 1:1. I Feel Love – Donna Summer2. One For You, One For Me – La Bionda3. Number One Song In Heaven – Sparks4. The Chase – Giorgio Moroder5. Sunset People – Donna Summer6. I Wanna Be Your Lover – La Bionda7. Masterpiece – Gazebo8. You Are Danger – Gary Low9. The Garden – Lectric Workers10. Passion – The Flirts11. Take a Chance – Mr. Flagio12. Penguins Invasion – Scotch13. Lunatic – Gazebo14. Jukebox – The Flirts
CD 2:1. Pulstar – Hipnosis2. I Want You – Gary Low3. Chinese Revenge – K.O.T.O4. Another Life – Kano5. Do It Again/Billie Jean – Clubhouse6. Somebody – Video7. I Like Chopin – Gazebo8. Droid – Mito9. Dolce Vita – Ryan Paris10. Happy Children – P.Lion11. Vamos a La Playa – Righeira12. Happy Station – Fun Fun13. Voices In The Dark – Mike Cannon14. Hypnotic Tango – My Mine15. The Night – Valerie Dore
CD 3:1. Polaris – Cyber People2. Japanese War Game – K.O.T.O.3. Self Control – Raf4. Happy Song – Baby’s Gang5. Slice Me Nice – Fancy6. Colour My Love – Fun Fun7. Tonight – Ken Laszlo8. Get Closer – Valerie Dore9. Chinese Eyes – Fancy10. People From Ibiza – Sandy Marton11. Disco Band – Scotch12. Tora Tora Tora – Numero Uno13. How Old Are You – Miko Mission14. Lady Fantasy – Max Him15. Hey Hey Guy – Ken Laszlo16. Don’t Cry Tonight – Savage
CD 4:1. Talking To The Night – Brian Ice2. Challenger – Baby’s Gang3. Comanchero – Raggio Di Luna4. Take Me Up – Scotch5. L.A.D.Y. O – Fancy6. Future Brain – Den Harrow7. Around My Dream – Silver Pozolli8. Void Vision – Cyber People9. Tarzan Boy – Baltimora10. Power Run – Laserdance11. The World Is You – Miko Mission12. Japanese Girl – Max Him13. Baby Talk – Alisha14. Bad Boy – Den Harrow15. Delirio Mind – Scotch16. The Visitors – K.O.T.O
CD 5:1. Woody Boogie – Baltimora2. Chance To Desire – Radiorama3. Don’t Wake Me Up – J.D. Jaber4. From You To Me – Silver Pozolli5. Don’t Cry – Ken Laszlo6. Caught By Surprise – Laban7. Charleston – Den Harrow8. Two For Love – Miko Mission9. Baila Bolero – Fun Fun10. Mirage – Scotch11. Lady O – Paul Rein12. Vampires – Radiorama13. Bolero – Fancy14. Looking For Love – Tom Hooker15. USSR – Eddy Huntington
CD 6:1. Easy Lady – Spagna2. Jabdah – K.O.T.O3. Catch The Fox – Den Harrow4. Love In Siberia – Laban5. I Love My Radio – Taffy6. Money Runner – Scotch7. Humanoid Invasion – Laserdance8. Aliens – Radiorama9. Chica Boom – Silver Pozolli10. For Your Love – Albert One11. Don’t Break My Heart – Den Harrow12. Boys – Sabrina13. Call Me – Spagna14. Popcorn – M&H Band15. Dragon’s Legend – K.O.T.O16. Shotgun (Into The Night) – Laserdance
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 23 October 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)
― fizzcaraldo (Justin M), Sunday, 23 October 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Sunday, 23 October 2005 23:05 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 23 October 2005 23:39 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 24 October 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)
― petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 24 October 2005 02:29 (twenty years ago)
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 24 October 2005 02:49 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 24 October 2005 05:13 (twenty years ago)
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)
― Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 24 October 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)
― JohnFoxxsJuno, Monday, 24 October 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)
And I think Dan has the main point here. Italo disco was mainly popular here between late 1983 and 1987, with tracks such as "Do It Again/Billie Jean", "Dolce Vita" and "Vamos a La Playa". Those early tracks are interesting influences, but they were never hits, not even in the discos, plus some of them sound more like synthpop to me.
Also, interestingly, some of the biggest hits of all are on the last CD. 86-87 was then Italo really started crossing over from the discos and into the hitlists. By then, the genre was increasingly Americanized through a use of "hard" digital synth sounds and even guitars (Spagna is a very typical example of this), but still, "Boys" was probably the biggest Italo disco hit ever, and "Call Me" and "I Love My Radio" were also both huge hits.
As for the 70s, I checked out a couple of tracks recommended by various sites, and I decided there was too little synth on them for them to be considered Italo disco enough. Even "One For You, One For Me" is a borderline case, I would say.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)
http://www.cybernetic-broadcasting.net
Most of my Italo education comes from there.
― JohnFoxxsJuno, Monday, 24 October 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)
http://www.electrofunkroots.co.uk
and he said the pioneering electro dj's in the uk only had interest in or knew about very few italo tracks...Feels Good by Electra, Harry Thurman's Underwater, Dirty Talk etc. I asked him if he knew about those due to their being picked up in NY clubs and he said no, he had a connection in the UK who was filtering the tracks in the same way the DJs in NY and Chicago were.
The other thing to remember is the "hip" version of italo reflects which records were licensed and released in america to the clubs, such as the stuff on Emergency, 25 West etc, Fuzz Dance came out on Sire and Klein + MBO had an LP on Atlantic.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)
― daavid (daavid), Monday, 24 October 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)
hearing this makes mee feel oh so much like a woman...to get up and dance to this mature voice and of course the beat......wooooooow
heres to silver pozolli...........woooooow
― woooooow, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 06:08 (twenty years ago)
^^
― just sayin, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:52 (thirteen years ago)
woooooow
― don't doomie like that (crüt), Monday, 27 May 2013 06:15 (thirteen years ago)
Giorgio Moroder, without any doubt, is actually very Italian indeed
When I watched that daft punk interview video I was surprised that he has a german accent and looks really german without the moustache. he even looks vaguely like werner herzog now.
― wk, Monday, 27 May 2013 08:24 (thirteen years ago)
http://vimeo.com/66655751
Lecture: Giorgio Moroder (New York, 2013)from Red Bull Music Academy
One of the true greats of disco and electronic music at the 2013 Red Bull Music Academy in New York.
Although Italian by upbringing, Giorgio Moroder did most of his work in Munich and the influence of Düsseldorf’s Kraftwerk can be heard in his work for Donna Summer, which includes two of the ultimate disco anthems, “I Feel Love” and “Love to Love You Baby.” He was also a supreme composer of soundtracks, scoring an unlikely success with the theme from Midnight Express. His footprints are all over British synth pop as well, a connection made explicit with “Together in Electric Dreams,” a 1984 collab with Philip Oakey that remains Moroder’s biggest chart hit.
^I watched this Saturday afternoon. It's not super packed with insight and the host is sort of annoying, but it's fun to see him forget a few things he'd even recorded when played back to him for his opinion.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 27 May 2013 08:30 (thirteen years ago)
“Together in Electric Dreams,” a 1984 collab with Philip Oakey that remains Moroder’s biggest chart hit.
Wait, is this true? Bigger than "I Feel Love" or "Flashdance...What a Feeling" or "Take My Breath Away" or "Call Me"?
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 27 May 2013 08:32 (thirteen years ago)
Or even "Danger Zone" ffs?
I think they mean it's the biggest released under his name
― don't doomie like that (crüt), Monday, 27 May 2013 08:38 (thirteen years ago)
what a thread. ah ilx
― the display names will fall like rain (Matt P), Monday, 27 May 2013 09:29 (thirteen years ago)
wait so are we officially seeing the rock canonization of giorgio moroder? good for him, not like he needs the paycheck.
― the display names will fall like rain (Matt P), Monday, 27 May 2013 09:34 (thirteen years ago)
i was gonna say re geir's original comments that "love to love you baby" and "i feel love" are the same song, but here i am beimg geir baited in 2013.
― the display names will fall like rain (Matt P), Monday, 27 May 2013 09:37 (thirteen years ago)
so according to that video the scarface theme was inspired by this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_w5yNDRJKs
― don't doomie like that (crüt), Monday, 27 May 2013 09:49 (thirteen years ago)
i've always considered him pretty italo disco
that's that shit i don't like
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 19:05 (thirteen years ago)
Woah, Geir the Italo Disco King!
He's from South Tyrol, like Gilbert of Gilbert & George, and, like Gilbert of Gilbert & George, his first language is Ladin rather than Italian or German, but, like Gilbert of Gilbert & George, it's likely he would have more of a German accent than an Italian accent.
― The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 16:04 (five years ago)